Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread TJ Trout
meanwell new DRS series is interesting if you can find them, also battery
hookup has some really nice 24/48v batteries in stock right now

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I am thinking that the wound plate and separator were part of the ability
> to freeze with damage.  That batt looks like a regular gel cell.  I used
> them perhaps 20 years ago.  They seemed to work fine.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:57 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>
> After Chuck told me about them I used them at various sites.  This is
> where they're at now:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-Genuine-NP12-12-Battery-Terminal/dp/B007T6QSDG
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:41 PM Robert  wrote:
>
>> "request a quote"...  First red flag...
>>
>> On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>>
>> There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for
>> charge and discharge.
>>
>> *From:* Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>>
>> If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for
>> cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift
>> battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with
>> terminals to connect the leads to.
>>
>> On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can
>> only fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to
>> see about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted
>> alot more than beer and pizza
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> If you find one, let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My
>>> ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.
>>>
>>> Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then
>>> someone would manufacture that box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite
>>> toolboxes
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068
>>>
>>> You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if
>>> there isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies
>>> will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead
>>> times are long though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor
>>> cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU
>>> around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything
>>> like that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I am thinking that the wound plate and separator were part of the ability to 
freeze with damage.  That batt looks like a regular gel cell.  I used them 
perhaps 20 years ago.  They seemed to work fine.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

After Chuck told me about them I used them at various sites.  This is where 
they're at now: 

https://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-Genuine-NP12-12-Battery-Terminal/dp/B007T6QSDG


On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:41 PM Robert  wrote:

  "request a quote"...  First red flag...


  On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for 
charge and discharge.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for 
cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift 
battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with terminals 
to connect the leads to.  


On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can 
only fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see 
about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more 
than beer and pizza

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

If you find one, let us know.



I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My 
ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light 
bulb.



If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then 
someone would manufacture that box.  



When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite 
toolboxes 


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  



Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if 
there isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  



If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha 
Technologies will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.



Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My 
lead times are long though.



-Adam







From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?



Hi all,



Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor 
cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU 
around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like 
that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?





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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
After Chuck told me about them I used them at various sites.  This is where
they're at now:

https://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-Genuine-NP12-12-Battery-Terminal/dp/B007T6QSDG

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:41 PM Robert  wrote:

> "request a quote"...  First red flag...
>
> On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>
> There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for
> charge and discharge.
>
> *From:* Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>
> If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for
> cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift
> battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with
> terminals to connect the leads to.
>
> On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only
> fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see
> about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot
> more than beer and pizza
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:
>
>> If you find one, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My
>> ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.
>>
>> Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.
>>
>>
>>
>> If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then
>> someone would manufacture that box.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite
>> toolboxes
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068
>>
>> You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there
>> isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies
>> will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead
>> times are long though.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor
>> cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU
>> around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything
>> like that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Robert

"request a quote"...  First red flag...

On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/
*From:* Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both 
for charge and discharge.

*From:* Nate Burke
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for 
cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a 
forklift battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the 
side with terminals to connect the leads to.


On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can 
only fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator 
to see about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he 
wanted alot more than beer and pizza

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

If you find one, let us know.

I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for
everyone.   My ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a
light bulb.

If there was one configuration that would outsell all others,
then someone would manufacture that box.

When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used
jobsite toolboxes


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.

Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited
if there isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.

If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha
Technologies will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring
your checkbook.

Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza. 
My lead times are long though.

-Adam

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

Hi all,

Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small
outdoor cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries,
~27V charger/PSU around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery
blanket. Is there anything like that in the market so I don't
have to organize design/build?

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for 
charge and discharge.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for cheap, 
that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift battery 
next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with terminals to 
connect the leads to.  


On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only 
fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see about 
building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more than 
beer and pizza

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

If you find one, let us know.



I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My 
ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.



If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone 
would manufacture that box.  



When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite 
toolboxes 


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  



Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there 
isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  



If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies 
will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.



Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead 
times are long though.



-Adam







From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?



Hi all,



Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor 
cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU 
around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like 
that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?





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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for 
charge and discharge.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for cheap, 
that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift battery 
next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with terminals to 
connect the leads to.  


On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only 
fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see about 
building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more than 
beer and pizza

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

If you find one, let us know.



I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My 
ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.



If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone 
would manufacture that box.  



When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite 
toolboxes 


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  



Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there 
isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  



If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies 
will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.



Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead 
times are long though.



-Adam







From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?



Hi all,



Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor 
cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU 
around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like 
that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?





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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread dmmoffett
I used to work with a guy that was a machinist.  He took those 32” toolboxes, 
turned them sideways so the door opened towards you, added weather stripping, 
welded plates over all the holes in the side (which was now the top), cut out 
the padlock holes, welded over those, added draw catches with a padlock loop, 
and painted the whole thing gray.   He also added shelves to the inside and a 
plywood panel inside the door.  He would bolt the feet to Unistrut and then 
mount the Unistrut on a pole.  When he was done you couldn’t tell it was ever a 
toolbox.  We could buy them for $299 at the time, and once he was set up in his 
garage he could do the whole transformation in about 4 hours, plus paint drying 
time.  We used them as a battery/slack box.  4x100ah batteries on the shelves, 
surge protectors on the plywood panel, and a tight coil of slack next to the 
batteries.  A conduit went from there up to the electronics box.  I’d wondered 
at the time what he could sell those for.  I told him if he could get $1000 he 
should quit the internet game and just be the box maker guy.

 

-Adam

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

 

we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only fit 
2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see about 
building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more than 
beer and pizza

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you find one, let us know.

 

I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My ideal 
would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.

 

If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone 
would manufacture that box.  

 

When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite toolboxes 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  

 

Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there 
isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  

 

If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies will 
build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.

 

Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead times 
are long though.

 

-Adam

 

 

 

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Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

 

Hi all,

 

Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor cabinet 
with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU around 5A and 
a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like that in the 
market so I don't have to organize design/build?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread dmmoffett
Get two.  One for batteries and one for equipment.  Still cheaper than any 
proper rack cabinet.  

Or get a bigger one.  


You’d have to get 4 of those 32” ones to match the cost of a DDB cabinet.  I’m 
not advocating toolboxes as an ideal solution, but for awhile that was the 
solution we could afford.

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

 

we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only fit 
2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see about 
building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more than 
beer and pizza

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you find one, let us know.

 

I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My ideal 
would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.

 

If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone 
would manufacture that box.  

 

When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite toolboxes 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  

 

Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there 
isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  

 

If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies will 
build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.

 

Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead times 
are long though.

 

-Adam

 

 

 

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Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

 

Hi all,

 

Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor cabinet 
with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU around 5A and 
a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like that in the 
market so I don't have to organize design/build?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Nate Burke
If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for 
cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a 
forklift battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side 
with terminals to connect the leads to.


On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can 
only fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator 
to see about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he 
wanted alot more than beer and pizza


On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM > wrote:


If you find one, let us know.

I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for
everyone.   My ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a
light bulb.

If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then
someone would manufacture that box.

When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite
toolboxes


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.

Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited
if there isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.

If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha
Technologies will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring
your checkbook.

Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza. 
My lead times are long though.


-Adam

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

Hi all,

Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small
outdoor cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries,
~27V charger/PSU around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery
blanket. Is there anything like that in the market so I don't have
to organize design/build?

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread Steve Jones
we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can only
fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see
about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot
more than beer and pizza

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

> If you find one, let us know.
>
>
>
> I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My
> ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.
>
> Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.
>
>
>
> If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone
> would manufacture that box.
>
>
>
> When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite
> toolboxes
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068
>
> You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.
>
>
>
> Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there
> isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.
>
>
>
> If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies
> will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.
>
>
>
> Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead
> times are long though.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor
> cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU
> around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything
> like that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

2022-11-30 Thread dmmoffett
If you find one, let us know.

 

I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My ideal 
would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light bulb.

 

If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then someone 
would manufacture that box.  

 

When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite toolboxes 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  

 

Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if there 
isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  

 

If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha Technologies will 
build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.

 

Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My lead times 
are long though.

 

-Adam

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

 

Hi all,

 

Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor cabinet 
with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU around 5A and 
a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like that in the 
market so I don't have to organize design/build?

 

 

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