Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
i'd also add the spec of your machine as well if your laptop is plugged into power can cause fluctuation of test results. CPUs drop into power save mode. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com<mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com<http://www.race.com/> From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 12:11 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? The server isn’t really the issue here. From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 12:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? That what most of us do, put in a nearby speedtest.net server and host it on net. Anything outside of our own can be unreliable, but we sometimes point customers to ‘better’ speedtest.net servers relative to our network as secondary. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? But your customers are likely to find speedtest if they just randomly browse for it. You can put in a speedtest server so at least you get the best score possible. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that's a big difference, enough for customers to feel they're being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I'll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn't have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
The server isn’t really the issue here. From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 12:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? That what most of us do, put in a nearby speedtest.net server and host it on net. Anything outside of our own can be unreliable, but we sometimes point customers to ‘better’ speedtest.net servers relative to our network as secondary. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? But your customers are likely to find speedtest if they just randomly browse for it. You can put in a speedtest server so at least you get the best score possible. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. _ -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that's a big difference, enough for customers to feel they're being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I'll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn't have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome _ -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
That what most of us do, put in a nearby speedtest.net server and host it on net. Anything outside of our own can be unreliable, but we sometimes point customers to ‘better’ speedtest.net servers relative to our network as secondary. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? But your customers are likely to find speedtest if they just randomly browse for it. You can put in a speedtest server so at least you get the best score possible. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that's a big difference, enough for customers to feel they're being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I'll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn't have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
In Ken's case, it was a client issue. However, let's not forget that low speedtest.net scores may actually indicate a problem with your network or your connectivity outside. Don't just dismiss them because you don't like the result or you have another test that comes out good. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:39:15 PM Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
But your customers are likely to find speedtest if they just randomly browse for it. You can put in a speedtest server so at least you get the best score possible. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. -- -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
I’m only doing it because we’re deploying Preseem for managing speed tiers and I know customers will use speedtest.net to determine if they’re getting advertised speeds. My expectation was that I would have to gross up the rate limit a little so that someone on a 10 Mbps plan would speedtest at 10.1 rather than 9.8. What shocked me was the upstream was consistently coming up as 700k on a 1M plan and 1.4M on a 2M plan. Then I tried Chrome and Firefox, since I know I’m one of maybe 3 people in the universe still using Edge. And in Chrome the 30% upstream discrepancy was mostly resolved. And after Sterling mentioned the app, I tried that and got even higher numbers. I guess most people are using the app, because that’s what you have to do on a mobile device, and I’m one of 3 people in the universe still using a clunky old computer instead of a little pocket Facebook screen that also makes phone calls. From: AF On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 7:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. _ -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" < <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> af...@kwisp.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that's a big difference, enough for customers to feel they're being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I'll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn't have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome _ -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
quit using speedtest.net or any other speed test like fast.com and use nperf.com or openspeedtest.com or host you own. -Original Message- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 02/10/19 09:10 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that’s a big difference, enough for customers to feel they’re being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I’ll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn’t have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more ‘normal’speeds than using safari. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
OK, as much as I hate installing apps, I just tried the Windows app and am seeing around 3% higher download speed and 25% higher upload speed using the app. I am at home now on an AT connection, will have to try on my network. This came up because we have been evaluating Preseem and while I was not surprised we had to set the DL rate a couple % high to get speedtests to yield the advertised rate, I was concerned when I saw 1.4M UL results on a 2M speed tier, that's a big difference, enough for customers to feel they're being cheated. But that was in Edge, and when I tried it with Chrome, it was something like 1.9M. I'll have to try it with the app. I know on mobile devices like phones, most people are app crazy and install apps for everything, so typically they are using the speedtest.net iOS or Android app. I just cringe at the thought of dozens or hundreds of apps on my phone, makes it easier for social media apps to spy on you and grab data they shouldn't have access to, plus I keep reading about malicious apps making it into the Apple and Google stores. Just saw one today about apps that steal your cryptocurrency wallet. From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser?
Yes, but generally I see the best/normal speeds using the Speedtest app on Win 10. Sometimes Chrome is faster, sometimes slower than Edge. Same with Apple, the app is more 'normal'speeds than using safari. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] speedtest.net result depends on browser? Has anyone noticed different speedtest.net results depending on what browser you use? Specifically I am seeing upstream speeds significantly lower with Microsoft Edge than with Google Chrome -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
