[AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Nate Burke]

So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, 
it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm 
updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into 
gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at 
<2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Jerry Head]

I have seen an office with 3 Windows 10 machines eat up 70mb/s for 45 
minutes.

Greedy little bit eaters they are.

On 3/16/2017 9:20 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, 
it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  
I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into 
gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at 
<2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Paul Stewart]

Depends on where the updates are coming from ….

> On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> 
> So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it 
> will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm 
> updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit 
> Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would 
> have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Bill Prince]

Sounds just like Apple to me. Or any of a half-dozen others.


bp


On 3/16/2017 7:20 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, 
it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  
I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into 
gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at 
<2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Mathew Howard]

No... it'd different. I've never seeing anything else kill a slow
connection like Windows 10 updates will.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Sounds just like Apple to me. Or any of a half-dozen others.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/16/2017 7:20 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it
>> will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm
>> updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit
>> Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would
>> have expected them to just fly.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Bill Prince]

I've seen and watched Apple updates completely kill a connection on more 
cases than I can count.


bp


On 3/16/2017 7:45 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
No... it'd different. I've never seeing anything else kill a slow 
connection like Windows 10 updates will.


On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:


Sounds just like Apple to me. Or any of a half-dozen others.


bp



On 3/16/2017 7:20 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10
machine, it will gladly and readily take all available
bandwidth (and more).  I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10
machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and
they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would
have expected them to just fly.

[AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Matt]

What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Jaime Solorza]

on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using 12
gauge coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry carpenters
tool belt but very rarely use it.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt  wrote:

> What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Adam Moffett]

I think they changed something.  Windows 10 updates used to cripple my 
home connection, but lately I haven't noticed them.


I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is 
downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download 
crippled me.  Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update 
was downloading.  I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows 
Defender that was doing the downloading, but I don't remember how I 
concluded that.




-- Original Message --
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, 
it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  
I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into 
gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at 
<2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Adam Moffett]

That could be a factor.

-- Original Message --
From: "Paul Stewart" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 3/16/2017 10:41:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed


Depends on where the updates are coming from ….


 On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

 So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 
machine, it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and 
more).  I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, 
plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows 
updates at <2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Mathew Howard]

It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple
customers complaining that "their connection never works" in the last
couple weeks, and when I checked it was the same old thing with a couple
dozen TCP connections to 13.x.x.x IP addresses completely killing the
connection. At least one of them said there was an update going, but it
could very well be something like Windows Defender.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I think they changed something.  Windows 10 updates used to cripple my
> home connection, but lately I haven't noticed them.
>
> I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is
> downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download
> crippled me.  Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update was
> downloading.  I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows Defender
> that was doing the downloading, but I don't remember how I concluded that.
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed
>
> So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it
>> will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm
>> updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit
>> Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would
>> have expected them to just fly.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Chuck McCown]

http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/multi-pocket-pouches/6-pocket-tool-pouch-tunnel-loop

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:00 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using 12 gauge 
coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry carpenters tool belt 
but very rarely use it.

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt  wrote:

  What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Chuck McCown]

https://weldwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/einstein.pl?::1:WLDWH:1:409=5127T
better photo

Straight blade screw driver in front end pocket.
Awl in back end pocket holding a stipper in that pocket too
Long nose in front side 
can wrench  in middle side
diag cutters in back side
Klein pliers, 6”crescent, phillips, drop wire crimpers, punch down , scotch 
lock crimper all in middle pocket
Spool of tape on tape holder.  

Wore this for many years every day.  Tool order was specified by the company so 
you never had to look to find the tool.  You had it memorized.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:00 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using 12 gauge 
coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry carpenters tool belt 
but very rarely use it.

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt  wrote:

  What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Rory Conaway]

The pathetic way Windows Defender works, I doubt it takes a lot of bandwidth.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple customers 
complaining that "their connection never works" in the last couple weeks, and 
when I checked it was the same old thing with a couple dozen TCP connections to 
13.x.x.x IP addresses completely killing the connection. At least one of them 
said there was an update going, but it could very well be something like 
Windows Defender.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think they changed something.  Windows 10 updates used to cripple my home 
connection, but lately I haven't noticed them.

I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is 
downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download crippled 
me.  Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update was downloading. 
 I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows Defender that was doing 
the downloading, but I don't remember how I concluded that.




-- Original Message --
From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>>
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed
So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it will 
gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm updating 2 
brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and 
they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would have expected them 
to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Adam Moffett]

However pathetic it is, it must have to download new definitions 
sometimes.


-- Original Message --
From: "Rory Conaway" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 3/16/2017 11:30:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

The pathetic way Windows Defender works, I doubt it takes a lot of 
bandwidth.




Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed



It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple 
customers complaining that "their connection never works" in the last 
couple weeks, and when I checked it was the same old thing with a 
couple dozen TCP connections to 13.x.x.x IP addresses completely 
killing the connection. At least one of them said there was an update 
going, but it could very well be something like Windows Defender.




On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:


I think they changed something.  Windows 10 updates used to cripple my 
home connection, but lately I haven't noticed them.


I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is 
downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download 
crippled me.  Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update 
was downloading.  I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows 
Defender that was doing the downloading, but I don't remember how I 
concluded that.






-- Original Message --
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, 
it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  
I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into 
gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at 
<2mb/s.  I would have expected them to just fly.

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Matt]

I was thinking more something with belt that will hold battery drill,
screws, clips, cat-5 tools, etc. on job site while going up and down
short ladders.  All the stuff to mount j-arm, put connectors on and
run cat-5 etc.



On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/multi-pocket-pouches/6-pocket-tool-pouch-tunnel-loop
>
> From: Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:00 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt
>
> on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using 12
> gauge coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry carpenters
> tool belt but very rarely use it.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt  wrote:
>>
>> What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?
>
>

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Jon Langeler]

Anything new announced with ETA??

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Chuck McCown]

Self driving cars.  q3 2017

-Original Message- 
From: Jon Langeler 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:11 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news? 


Anything new announced with ETA??

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Jon Langeler]

Ubiquiti Medusa 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 16, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Self driving cars.  q3 2017
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jon Langeler Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 
> 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news? 
> Anything new announced with ETA??
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[SmarterBroadband]

😊

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

Self driving cars.  q3 2017

-Original Message- 
From: Jon Langeler 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:11 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news? 

Anything new announced with ETA??

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

[AFMUG] Square down??

[Travis Johnson]

Anyone else seeing Square being down right now?

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Timothy Steele]

Gen 2 AC shipping beta right now

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, 1:38 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> 😊
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Self driving cars.  q3 2017
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Langeler
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Anything new announced with ETA??
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Square down??

[Andy Trimmell]

Yes

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Square down??

Anyone else seeing Square being down right now?

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Dan Petermann]

 This works flawlessly, just put it in. 

Thanks again for the help


On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:

> Thank you for the info!
> 
> On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
>> OK, so if you put + on the left pin and – on the right pin, then jumpers for 
>> 1/2 and 4/5 need to be on the left and center pins and the jumpers for 3/6 
>> and 7/8 need to be center and right pins. 
>>  
>> From: Dan Petermann
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT 
>> POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
>>  
>> Sorry, here is the pinouts with polarity
>>  
>> Pin 1 +
>> Pin 2 +
>> Pin 3 -
>> Pin 4 +
>> Pin 5 +
>> Pin 6 -
>> Pin 7 -
>> Pin 8 -
>>  
>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> 
>>> On all 8 pins?  If so, then you slide all the jumpers one way and only hook 
>>> up +48 to the POE inserter.  Is the –48 via chassis ground?
>>>  
>>> From: Dan Petermann
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:30 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE 
>>> -POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
>>>  
>>> Excellent! The polarity is +48vdc.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>> 
 I would say yes, but that document does not indicate the DC power polarity 
 of the pairs.  So yes, provided the jumpers on the POE are set right. 
  
 Can anyone in Exalt tech support give you the polarity info?
  
 From: Dan Petermann
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:55 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE - 
 POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
  
 Chuck,
 
 do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
 ExtremeAir radio?
 
 We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until June.
  
  
  
 Chuck,
 
 do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
 ExtremeAir radio?
 
 We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until 
 June. 
 
>>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Stefan Englhardt]

Copy of RF-Element Horns for AP and CPE. Updated AC gear with added 2,4GHz 
radio for management. Available in Beta Store at low volume. Nothing new with 
LTU. GPS for AC still in development.


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jon Langeler
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. März 2017 18:11
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Anything new announced with ETA??
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Chuck McCown]

It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that there is a small part of a 
trace on that circuit board that will contact the grounding lug in the shelf 
when being inserted or removed.  Not when fully seated.  

So don’t have the green power power connector attached when inserting or 
removing the card.  It can be field fixed with a small dot of fingernail 
polish.  I will be fixing the PCB on the next run to fix the interference.  

I will replace any unit in the field with advance replacement.

From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK 
MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

This works flawlessly, just put it in.  

Thanks again for the help



On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:


  Thank you for the info! 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


OK, so if you put + on the left pin and – on the right pin, then jumpers 
for 1/2 and 4/5 need to be on the left and center pins and the jumpers for 3/6 
and 7/8 need to be center and right pins.  

From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT 
POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

Sorry, here is the pinouts with polarity 

Pin 1 +
Pin 2 +
Pin 3 -
Pin 4 +
Pin 5 +
Pin 6 -
Pin 7 -
Pin 8 -

On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


  On all 8 pins?  If so, then you slide all the jumpers one way and only 
hook up +48 to the POE inserter.  Is the –48 via chassis ground?

  From: Dan Petermann 
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:30 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE 
-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

  Excellent! The polarity is +48vdc. 


  On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


I would say yes, but that document does not indicate the DC power 
polarity of the pairs.  So yes, provided the jumpers on the POE are set right.  

Can anyone in Exalt tech support give you the polarity info?

From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE - 
POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

Chuck,

do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
ExtremeAir radio?

We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until 
June. 








Chuck,

do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
ExtremeAir radio?

We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until 
June. 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Chuck McCown]

How much are those horns?  Horns should be dirt cheap.  Nothing special 
about them at all.


-Original Message- 
From: Stefan Englhardt

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

Copy of RF-Element Horns for AP and CPE. Updated AC gear with added 2,4GHz 
radio for management. Available in Beta Store at low volume. Nothing new 
with LTU. GPS for AC still in development.




-Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jon Langeler
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. M�rz 2017 18:11
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

Anything new announced with ETA??

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ahh, that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those pulling
it out while it was powered (the screw on the green power connector
engaged slightly through vibration so I had no choice). Thanks for
sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity
  Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
  Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
  

  

On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that there is
a small part of a trace on that circuit board that will
contact the grounding lug in the shelf when being inserted
or removed.  Not when fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector attached
when inserting or removing the card.  It can be field fixed
with a small dot of fingernail polish.  I will be fixing the
PCB on the next run to fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This
works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann 
wrote:
  
  
Thank you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown

wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on the left
pin and – on the right pin, then
jumpers for 1/2 and 4/5 need to be
on the left and center pins and the
jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8 need to be
center and right pins.  
  

   
  
From:
  Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday,
  March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC
  RACK MOUNT
  POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Sorry,
here is the pinouts with polarity
 
Pin 1 +
Pin 2 +
Pin 3 -
Pin 4 +
Pin 5 +
Pin 6 -
Pin 7 -
Pin 8 -

   
  
On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34
  AM, Chuck McCown 
  wrote:


  

  
On all 8 p

[AFMUG] Rohn 65G gin pole?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Anyone have one they want to sell, or know somebody who does?

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Chuck McCown]

Sorry, did it ruin any of your equipment?

From: Jesse DuPont 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK 
MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

Ahh, that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those pulling it out while 
it was powered (the screw on the green power connector engaged slightly through 
vibration so I had no choice). Thanks for sharing.


Jesse DuPont

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
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On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that there is a small part of a 
trace on that circuit board that will contact the grounding lug in the shelf 
when being inserted or removed.  Not when fully seated.  

  So don’t have the green power power connector attached when inserting or 
removing the card.  It can be field fixed with a small dot of fingernail 
polish.  I will be fixing the PCB on the next run to fix the interference.  

  I will replace any unit in the field with advance replacement.

  From: Dan Petermann 
  Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK 
MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

  This works flawlessly, just put it in.  

  Thanks again for the help



  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:


Thank you for the info! 

On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


  OK, so if you put + on the left pin and – on the right pin, then jumpers 
for 1/2 and 4/5 need to be on the left and center pins and the jumpers for 3/6 
and 7/8 need to be center and right pins.  

  From: Dan Petermann 
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT 
POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

  Sorry, here is the pinouts with polarity 

  Pin 1 +
  Pin 2 +
  Pin 3 -
  Pin 4 +
  Pin 5 +
  Pin 6 -
  Pin 7 -
  Pin 8 -

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


On all 8 pins?  If so, then you slide all the jumpers one way and only 
hook up +48 to the POE inserter.  Is the –48 via chassis ground?

From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE 
-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

Excellent! The polarity is +48vdc. 


On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


  I would say yes, but that document does not indicate the DC power 
polarity of the pairs.  So yes, provided the jumpers on the POE are set right.  

  Can anyone in Exalt tech support give you the polarity info?

  From: Dan Petermann 
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:55 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNT POE - 
POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

  Chuck,

  do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
ExtremeAir radio?

  We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until 
June. 



--



--
  Chuck,

  do you know if the 800-GIGE-POE-APC will work to power up a Exalt 
ExtremeAir radio?

  We are being told that the DC power supplies won’t be available until 
June. 

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
No worries. And no, it didn't. I heard the slight arc when I tugged
on it and then it wouldn't power up what was hooked to it. Replaced
it, all was good. I just thought I did something wrong with it so no
big deal. I love that I have flexible PoE and surge in one device.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity
  Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
  Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
  

  

On 3/16/17 2:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  Sorry, did it ruin any of your equipment?
  

   
  
From: Jesse DuPont

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Ahh,
that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those
pulling it out while it was powered (the screw on the green
power connector engaged slightly through vibration so I had
no choice). Thanks for sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
  Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
  

  

On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck
  McCown wrote:


  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that
there is a small part of a trace on that circuit
board that will contact the grounding lug in the
shelf when being inserted or removed.  Not when
fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector
attached when inserting or removing the card.  It
can be field fixed with a small dot of fingernail
polish.  I will be fixing the PCB on the next run to
fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07
  PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK
  MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann

wrote:
  
  
Thank
  you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM,
Chuck McCown 
wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on
the left pin and – on the
right pin, then jumpers for
1/2 and 4/5 need to be on
the left and center pins and
the jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8
need to

[AFMUG] AnimalFarm - language

[Chuck McCown]

So I announced that next year at AnimalFarm I have plans to blow things up.  

After the show I was chatting with Faisal in the lobby of the hotel and I told 
him I was planning to blow something up next year.  

He stepped back and announced he has nothing to do with this

OK, dumb thing to say.  Next year I plan large electrical discharges.  

It was funny.  Perhaps you had to be there.  

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm - language

[Jaime Solorza]

Sadly funny I got the inference.. Next time wear a beret, black thermal
undershirt and rolled sleeves Polo cotton shirt with Jamie name tag
Folks will say, " Hey Myth busters dude!!". ...No seconds thoughts

On Mar 16, 2017 3:38 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

So I announced that next year at AnimalFarm I have plans to blow things
up.

After the show I was chatting with Faisal in the lobby of the hotel and I
told him I was planning to blow something up next year.

He stepped back and announced he has nothing to do with this

OK, dumb thing to say.  Next year I plan large electrical discharges.

It was funny.  Perhaps you had to be there.

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm - language

[Jaime Solorza]

Ya rajul ofendi

On Mar 16, 2017 4:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Sadly funny I got the inference.. Next time wear a beret, black thermal
> undershirt and rolled sleeves Polo cotton shirt with Jamie name tag
> Folks will say, " Hey Myth busters dude!!". ...No seconds thoughts
>
> On Mar 16, 2017 3:38 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> So I announced that next year at AnimalFarm I have plans to blow things
> up.
>
> After the show I was chatting with Faisal in the lobby of the hotel and I
> told him I was planning to blow something up next year.
>
> He stepped back and announced he has nothing to do with this
>
> OK, dumb thing to say.  Next year I plan large electrical discharges.
>
> It was funny.  Perhaps you had to be there.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm - language

[Brian Webster]

He has a great sense of humor! :-D

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm - language

 

So I announced that next year at AnimalFarm I have plans to blow things up.


 

After the show I was chatting with Faisal in the lobby of the hotel and I
told him I was planning to blow something up next year.  

 

He stepped back and announced he has nothing to do with this

 

OK, dumb thing to say.  Next year I plan large electrical discharges.  

 

It was funny.  Perhaps you had to be there.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Mathew Howard]

I haven't seen any actual pricing yet, but the horns they have in the beta
store are cheap... that doesn't mean much, since they're obviously selling
the beta stuff at a discount, but the non-prism model is selling for the
same price as the PowerBeams and NanoStations in the beta store, so I'm
guessing under $100... and the Prism version (which I think adds filtering
and GPS) is the same price as the beta Rockets.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> How much are those horns?  Horns should be dirt cheap.  Nothing special
> about them at all.
>
> -Original Message- From: Stefan Englhardt
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:39 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Copy of RF-Element Horns for AP and CPE. Updated AC gear with added 2,4GHz
> radio for management. Available in Beta Store at low volume. Nothing new
> with LTU. GPS for AC still in development.
>
>
> -Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jon Langeler
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. M�rz 2017 18:11
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>>
>> Anything new announced with ETA??
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] ubnt airmax php hole

[Zach Underwood]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/16/ubiquiti_networking_php_hole/

-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt airmax php hole

[Joe Novak]

The advisory:
https://www.sec-consult.com/fxdata/seccons/prod/temedia/advisories_txt/20170316-0_Ubiquiti_Networks_authenticated_command_injection_v10.txt


The most concerning part? I quote:


Vendor contact timeline:

2016-11-22: Contacting vendor via HackerOne
2016-11-22: Vendor marks it as duplicate to: #143447
2016-11-23: Asking the vendor for a patch.
2016-11-25: Vendor responds that #143447 should be fixed for next stable
release.
2016-11-25: Asking for an estimated time frame for a fix of the
vulnerability.
2016-11-25: Vendor can not give a precise date.
2017-01-10: Asking the vendor for a patch and defined release of the
advisory for 2017-01-16 (concerning the SEC Consult
disclosure policy). Shifted the deadline to 2017-01-30
due to Christmas holidays; No answer.
2017-01-17: Asked for an update.
2017-01-17: Vendor excuses for the delay and responds that they got a
similar report but our PoC does not work.
2017-01-18: Explained PoC again
2017-01-19: Vendor responds that they received a similar report and
assumed a duplication. They state that our PoC never worked
and did not make any sense.
2017-01-20: Uploaded a video which shows a live command injection at an
up-to-date (v6.0) device and posted an assumed reason why
it's possible to exploit
2017-01-21: Vendor responds that they were able to reproduce it now. They
also posted the real cause.
2017-01-24: Asking whether the vulnerability is a duplicate to #143447.
2017-01-24: Vendor responds that it is no duplicate and that this
issue will be fixed as soon as possible.
2017-02-03: Asking for a status update; No answer.
2017-02-21: Asking for a status update; No answer.
2017-03-01: Informing the vendor that the release of the advisory is set to
2017-03-16; No answer.
2017-03-16: Public advisory release


I don't think that is a very good response, and makes me concerned about
any other undisclosed security flaws.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Zach Underwood 
wrote:

> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/16/ubiquiti_networking_php_hole/
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
> advance-networking.com
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt airmax php hole

[Jeremy]

wow.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> The advisory: https://www.sec-consult.com/fxdata/seccons/
> prod/temedia/advisories_txt/20170316-0_Ubiquiti_Networks_
> authenticated_command_injection_v10.txt
>
>
> The most concerning part? I quote:
>
>
> Vendor contact timeline:
> 
> 2016-11-22: Contacting vendor via HackerOne
> 2016-11-22: Vendor marks it as duplicate to: #143447
> 2016-11-23: Asking the vendor for a patch.
> 2016-11-25: Vendor responds that #143447 should be fixed for next stable
> release.
> 2016-11-25: Asking for an estimated time frame for a fix of the
> vulnerability.
> 2016-11-25: Vendor can not give a precise date.
> 2017-01-10: Asking the vendor for a patch and defined release of the
> advisory for 2017-01-16 (concerning the SEC Consult
> disclosure policy). Shifted the deadline to 2017-01-30
> due to Christmas holidays; No answer.
> 2017-01-17: Asked for an update.
> 2017-01-17: Vendor excuses for the delay and responds that they got a
> similar report but our PoC does not work.
> 2017-01-18: Explained PoC again
> 2017-01-19: Vendor responds that they received a similar report and
> assumed a duplication. They state that our PoC never worked
> and did not make any sense.
> 2017-01-20: Uploaded a video which shows a live command injection at an
> up-to-date (v6.0) device and posted an assumed reason why
> it's possible to exploit
> 2017-01-21: Vendor responds that they were able to reproduce it now. They
> also posted the real cause.
> 2017-01-24: Asking whether the vulnerability is a duplicate to #143447.
> 2017-01-24: Vendor responds that it is no duplicate and that this
> issue will be fixed as soon as possible.
> 2017-02-03: Asking for a status update; No answer.
> 2017-02-21: Asking for a status update; No answer.
> 2017-03-01: Informing the vendor that the release of the advisory is set to
> 2017-03-16; No answer.
> 2017-03-16: Public advisory release
>
>
> I don't think that is a very good response, and makes me concerned about
> any other undisclosed security flaws.
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Zach Underwood 
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/16/ubiquiti_networking_php_hole/
>>
>> --
>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>> advance-networking.com
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT: Scientology HQ uses PTP microwave?

[Eric Kuhnke]

At 4:50 into the video, the PTP dish on non penetrating mount on the roof
of the large building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D13a32HSHA&feature=youtu.be

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Scientology HQ uses PTP microwave?

[Jason McKemie]

A bit OT, but this is a good documentary on Scientology:

https://youtu.be/zllYkNu1sl4

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> At 4:50 into the video, the PTP dish on non penetrating mount on the roof
> of the large building.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D13a32HSHA&feature=youtu.be
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

[Rory Conaway]

Considering how few viruses it gets and Microsoft kissing the NSA butt, they 
would be very small.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

However pathetic it is, it must have to download new definitions sometimes.

-- Original Message --
From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 3/16/2017 11:30:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

The pathetic way Windows Defender works, I doubt it takes a lot of bandwidth.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple customers 
complaining that "their connection never works" in the last couple weeks, and 
when I checked it was the same old thing with a couple dozen TCP connections to 
13.x.x.x IP addresses completely killing the connection. At least one of them 
said there was an update going, but it could very well be something like 
Windows Defender.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think they changed something.  Windows 10 updates used to cripple my home 
connection, but lately I haven't noticed them.

I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is 
downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download crippled 
me.  Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update was downloading. 
 I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows Defender that was doing 
the downloading, but I don't remember how I concluded that.




-- Original Message --
From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>>
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed
So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it will 
gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more).  I'm updating 2 
brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and 
they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s.  I would have expected them 
to just fly.

[AFMUG] Review

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Bon Jovi concert two thumbs up

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Jeremy]

I've been using this one for a couple of years now.  I hoist up a different
type of tool bag for towers.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/AWP-HP-245-cu-in-Ballistic-Nylon-Tool-Pouch/50195239



On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Matt  wrote:

> I was thinking more something with belt that will hold battery drill,
> screws, clips, cat-5 tools, etc. on job site while going up and down
> short ladders.  All the stuff to mount j-arm, put connectors on and
> run cat-5 etc.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> > http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/multi-pocket-pouches/
> 6-pocket-tool-pouch-tunnel-loop
> >
> > From: Jaime Solorza
> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:00 AM
> > To: Animal Farm
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt
> >
> > on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using 12
> > gauge coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry carpenters
> > tool belt but very rarely use it.
> >
> > Jaime Solorza
> > Wireless Systems Architect
> > 915-861-1390
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt

[Jeremy]

Also, this one that I just posted is an over-the-shoulder strap.  I found
that I like it better once I got used to it.  It isn't as hard on the
hips.  I don't have enough meat on my bones and the tool belt would rub me
raw sometimes.  I saw a guy using one with a shoulder strap and had to try
it out.  Works like a champ!

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I've been using this one for a couple of years now.  I hoist up a
> different type of tool bag for towers.
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/AWP-HP-245-cu-in-Ballistic-Nylon-
> Tool-Pouch/50195239
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Matt 
> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking more something with belt that will hold battery drill,
>> screws, clips, cat-5 tools, etc. on job site while going up and down
>> short ladders.  All the stuff to mount j-arm, put connectors on and
>> run cat-5 etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> > http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/multi-pocket-pouches/6-
>> pocket-tool-pouch-tunnel-loop
>> >
>> > From: Jaime Solorza
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:00 AM
>> > To: Animal Farm
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tool Belt
>> >
>> > on towers I use a small pouch some tools are tied to my belt using
>> 12
>> > gauge coated copper usually tucked into back pocket,   I carry
>> carpenters
>> > tool belt but very rarely use it.
>> >
>> > Jaime Solorza
>> > Wireless Systems Architect
>> > 915-861-1390
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What is everyones favorite tool belt etc. for installs?
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>