[AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-12 Thread Jason McKemie 
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that
Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Border States or Summit Electric..

On May 12, 2017 5:12 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
wrote:

> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that
> Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-12 Thread Lewis Bergman 
Delcity.net but I font usually buy wire there

On Fri, May 12, 2017, 6:16 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Border States or Summit Electric..
>
> On May 12, 2017 5:12 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that
>> Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-12 Thread George Skorup 
We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine for a 
single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet anyway.


An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500' spools. If 
Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot, then you're all 
set. Then the Cat6 is still there for the management interface.


On 5/12/2017 6:12 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-13 Thread Jay Weekley 

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


 
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-13 Thread George Skorup 
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. 
Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. 
The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.


On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


 
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-13 Thread Jay Weekley 
I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is 
pushing and is over priced.


George Skorup wrote:
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. 
Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. 
The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.


On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


 
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Jason McKemie 
I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has a
connector for the eNB on one end.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley  wrote:

> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is
> pushing and is over priced.
>
> George Skorup wrote:
>
>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too.
>> Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The
>> eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.
>>
>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>
>>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?
>>>
>>> Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that
 Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

 
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Jay Weekley 

Have you gone to the Baicells Support Group on Facebook and asked?

Jason McKemie wrote:
I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
has a connector for the eNB on one end.


On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley > wrote:


I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says
Baicells is pushing and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:

Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started,
too. Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs
w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the
interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire
cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is
really over priced.


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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Mitch Koep 

Support on Face Book???

Your kidding?

Is that the only forum for support?

Mitch


On 05/14/2017 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Have you gone to the Baicells Support Group on Facebook and asked?

Jason McKemie wrote:
I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
has a connector for the eNB on one end.


On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley > wrote:


I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says
Baicells is pushing and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:

Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started,
too. Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs
w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the
interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other 
products?


Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire
cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is
really over priced.

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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Mike Hammett 
May or may not be the only, I have no idea. However, FB groups are extremely 
common for support these days, both user groups and official groups. 




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From: "Mitch Koep"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:17:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source 

Support on Face Book??? 

Your kidding? 

Is that the only forum for support? 

Mitch 


On 05/14/2017 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: 
> Have you gone to the Baicells Support Group on Facebook and asked? 
> 
> Jason McKemie wrote: 
>> I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
>> has a connector for the eNB on one end. 
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley > <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: 
>> 
>> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says 
>> Baicells is pushing and is over priced. 
>> 
>> George Skorup wrote: 
>> 
>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, 
>> too. Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs 
>> w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the 
>> interwebs. 
>> 
>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: 
>> 
>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other 
>> products? 
>> 
>> Jason McKemie wrote: 
>> 
>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire 
>> cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is 
>> really over priced. 
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Jay Weekley 

No, Patrick Leary and Rick Harnish monitor it closely.

Mitch Koep wrote:

Support on Face Book???

Your kidding?

Is that the only forum for support?

Mitch


On 05/14/2017 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Have you gone to the Baicells Support Group on Facebook and asked?

Jason McKemie wrote:
I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
has a connector for the eNB on one end.


On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley > wrote:


I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says
Baicells is pushing and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:

Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started,
too. Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs
w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the
interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other 
products?


Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire
cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is
really over priced.

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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Adam Moffett 
You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  
Does the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the 
radio?



From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:

http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf

E2BEA-141B02CB00
E2BDA-141B02CA00
E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)

Composite cables from Shireen:
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

RF Elements:
http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf

I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot 
from Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation 
starting with "S" and ending with "W" should do the job.

https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/




-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
has a connector for the eNB on one end.


On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley  
wrote:
I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is 
pushing and is over priced.


George Skorup wrote:
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. 
Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. 
The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.


On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Mathew Howard 
The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just a
spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with
the eNB, and is quite simple to put on.

On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

> You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  Does
> the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?
>
> From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
> http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-
> catalog.pdf
>
> E2BEA-141B02CB00
> E2BDA-141B02CA00
> E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)
>
> Composite cables from Shireen:
> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-
> composite-cable-500ft-spool
>
> RF Elements:
> http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%
> 20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf
>
> I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot
> from Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation
> starting with "S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
> https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-
> difference/
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message --
> From: "Jason McKemie" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source
>
> I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has a
> connector for the eNB on one end.
>
> On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley  wrote:
>
>> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is
>> pushing and is over priced.
>>
>> George Skorup wrote:
>>
>>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too.
>>> Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The
>>> eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.
>>>
>>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>
>>>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?
>>>>
>>>> Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff
>>>>> that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Jason McKemie 
The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's
website sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just a
> spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with
> the eNB, and is quite simple to put on.
>
> On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>
>> You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  Does
>> the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?
>>
>> From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
>> http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/
>> Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf
>>
>> E2BEA-141B02CB00
>> E2BDA-141B02CA00
>> E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)
>>
>> Composite cables from Shireen:
>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-com
>> posite-cable-500ft-spool
>>
>> RF Elements:
>> http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%
>> 20Power%20Cables.pdf
>>
>> I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot
>> from Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation
>> starting with "S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
>> https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-
>> what-is-the-difference/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source
>>
>> I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has
>> a connector for the eNB on one end.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley  wrote:
>>
>>> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is
>>> pushing and is over priced.
>>>
>>> George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too.
>>>> Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The
>>>> eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff
>>>>>> that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Mathew Howard 
Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the connector
would come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I had heard
earlier, so I think maybe that's how they were originally doing things and
they just switched to including the connector with the eNB instead at some
point.

On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
wrote:

> The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's
> website sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:
>
> http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-
> 14awg-power-cable-200ft.html
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just
>> a spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with
>> the eNB, and is quite simple to put on.
>>
>> On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>>
>>> You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  
>>> Does
>>> the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?
>>>
>>> From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
>>> http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/
>>> Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf
>>>
>>> E2BEA-141B02CB00
>>> E2BDA-141B02CA00
>>> E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)
>>>
>>> Composite cables from Shireen:
>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-com
>>> posite-cable-500ft-spool
>>>
>>> RF Elements:
>>> http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%
>>> 20Power%20Cables.pdf
>>>
>>> I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot
>>> from Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation
>>> starting with "S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
>>> https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what
>>> -is-the-difference/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source
>>>
>>> I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has
>>> a connector for the eNB on one end.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is
>>>> pushing and is over priced.
>>>>
>>>> George Skorup wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too.
>>>>> Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The
>>>>> eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff
>>>>>>> that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Jesse Dupont 
On our starter kit, both the eNB and the cable came with a connector.


From: Af  on behalf of Mathew Howard 

Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 5:06:29 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the connector would 
come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I had heard earlier, so I 
think maybe that's how they were originally doing things and they just switched 
to including the connector with the eNB instead at some point.

On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's website 
sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just a 
spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with the 
eNB, and is quite simple to put on.

On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett" 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  Does 
the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?

>From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf

E2BEA-141B02CB00
E2BDA-141B02CA00
E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)

Composite cables from Shireen:
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

RF Elements:
http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf

I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot from 
Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation starting with 
"S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/




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To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has a 
connector for the eNB on one end.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is pushing 
and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. Literally all 
you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the 
Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that 
Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie 
Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower?

On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup  wrote:

> We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine for a
> single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet anyway.
>
> An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500' spools. If
> Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot, then you're all
> set. Then the Cat6 is still there for the management interface.
>
> On 5/12/2017 6:12 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that
>> Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Brian Sullivan 

Landscape lighting wire is UV rated.  14/2 is less than $.30 /ft.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Southwire-500-ft-14-2-Black-Stranded-Landscape-Lighting-Cable-55213245/202316236

On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower?

On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup > wrote:


We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine
for a single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet
anyway.

An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500'
spools. If Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot,
then you're all set. Then the Cat6 is still there for the
management interface.

On 5/12/2017 6:12 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The
stuff that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread George Skorup 

I've seen cell co's use it. So... it's fine?

On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower?

On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup > wrote:


We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine
for a single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet
anyway.

An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500'
spools. If Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot,
then you're all set. Then the Cat6 is still there for the
management interface.

On 5/12/2017 6:12 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The
stuff that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Adam Moffett 

The "W" at the end stands for "weather resistant"


-- Original Message --
From: "George Skorup" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/15/2017 4:06:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source


I've seen cell co's use it. So... it's fine?

On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower?

On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup  
wrote:
We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine for a 
single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet anyway.


An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500' spools. 
If Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot, then 
you're all set. Then the Cat6 is still there for the management 
interface.


On 5/12/2017 6:12 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff 
that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-16 Thread Jerry Head 
Mine came with a connector on the cable and a connector came with the 
eNB so, two connectors!


On 5/14/2017 6:06 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the 
connector would come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I 
had heard earlier, so I think maybe that's how they were originally 
doing things and they just switched to including the connector with 
the eNB instead at some point.


On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:


The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on
Baltic's website sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one
as well:


http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html

<http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html>

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it...
It's just a spool of cable. It is a special connector, but
that connector comes with the eNB, and is quite simple to put on.

On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors
to the radio. Does the Baicells eNB require any kind of
special connector at the radio?

From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:

http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf

<http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf>

E2BEA-141B02CB00
E2BDA-141B02CA00
E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)

Composite cables from Shireen:

https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

<https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool>

RF Elements:

http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf

<http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf>

I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW
cable by the foot from Home Depot.  For cable in the
electrical aisle, any designation starting with "S" and
ending with "W" should do the job.

https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/

<https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/>




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Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source


I think because they can ask that much for it, and it
sounds like it has a connector for the eNB on one end.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason
says Baicells is pushing and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:

Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to
get started, too. Literally all you need is an
eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The eNB
talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than
other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg
2 wire cable?  The stuff that Baicells is
trying to push is really over priced.


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Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-16 Thread Mathew Howard 
I was cheated! not sure exactly what I would've done with another
connection anyway. :P

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> Mine came with a connector on the cable and a connector came with the eNB
> so, two connectors!
>
> On 5/14/2017 6:06 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the connector
> would come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I had heard
> earlier, so I think maybe that's how they were originally doing things and
> they just switched to including the connector with the eNB instead at some
> point.
>
> On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> wrote:
>
>> The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's
>> website sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:
>>
>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-1
>> 4awg-power-cable-200ft.html
>>
>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just
>>> a spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with
>>> the eNB, and is quite simple to put on.
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.
>>>>  Does the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the
>>>> radio?
>>>>
>>>> From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
>>>> http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/
>>>> Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf
>>>>
>>>> E2BEA-141B02CB00
>>>> E2BDA-141B02CA00
>>>> E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)
>>>>
>>>> Composite cables from Shireen:
>>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-com
>>>> posite-cable-500ft-spool
>>>>
>>>> RF Elements:
>>>> http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%
>>>> 20Power%20Cables.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot
>>>> from Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation
>>>> starting with "S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
>>>> https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what
>>>> -is-the-difference/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>> Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source
>>>>
>>>> I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it
>>>> has a connector for the eNB on one end.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is
>>>>> pushing and is over priced.
>>>>>
>>>>> George Skorup wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too.
>>>>>> Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The
>>>>>> eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff
>>>>>>>> that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.
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