Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really
kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of
leads. Not looking that way.

Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections
 off the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is
 probably near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year
 same as us, so the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches
 per day.

 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to
 see if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just
 slide it up and down.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about
 june 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs
 facing south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I suspect the real issue is the 45lbs of mosquitos per cubic foot in the LOS 
path.

Can someone in California send me a couple of extra quarts of blood?  Er, wait 
- let’s leave out California...

Mark


 On Jul 17, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 
 Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
 field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
 max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
 crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.
  
 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
 if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are 
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.
  
 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
 it up and down.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing 
 south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade
  
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent domain 
to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am thinking Judge 
Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, the crops are 
resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That might work on the 
trees, too.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really kind 
of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of leads. Not 
looking that way. 

Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

  Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

  Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

  Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
it up and down.


  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit
because our logo is orange

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use
 eminent domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.
 I am thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.
 Wait, the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent
 Orange.  That might work on the trees, too.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was
 really kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch
 of leads. Not looking that way.

 Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections
 off the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is
 probably near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year
 same as us, so the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches
 per day.

 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to
 see if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just
 slide it up and down.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about
 june 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs
 facing south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing
south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see if 
there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
it up and down.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 16, 
im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Need the Wagner music too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QzJKCUekQ


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit because 
our logo is orange

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

  Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent 
domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am 
thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, the 
crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That might 
work on the trees, too.


  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really 
kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of leads. 
Not looking that way. 

  Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

  On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off 
the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably 
near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so 
the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just 
slide it up and down.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Bill Prince

I've seen a fair bit of the midnight chainsaw blight..

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 7/17/2015 12:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use 
eminent domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the 
signal.  I am thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full 
of Roundup.  Wait, the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone 
with Agent Orange.  That might work on the trees, too.




Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Petermann
A drone with a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit 
 because our logo is orange
 
 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent 
 domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am 
 thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, 
 the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That 
 might work on the trees, too.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really 
 kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of 
 leads. Not looking that way.
  
 Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats
  
 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
 field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
 max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
 crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.
  
 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
 if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are 
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.
  
 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
 it up and down.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing 
 south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade
  
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
 
 
  
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
 
 
 
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.