Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-04 Thread Jon Auer
They target the enterprise market. Way easier to work with than Cisco's
enterprise WiFi system IMO.

My apartment is a RF mess in 2.4Ghz. I've been cycling through WiFi vendors
every quarter or two for the past couple of years to see how their products
behave between my work, my wife's streaming  work, etc.

I have a pair of the Ruckus IAP93 (embedded controller, APs on same LAN
work it out, otherwise all their stuff wants a controller) and they
tag-team finding clear channels and shifting clients and AP channels around
to dodge the neighbor's microwave, WiFi (my neighbors include
appliance/telco service people that bring their trucks home at night with
onboard WiFi hotspots), etc.
Shorter range than UniFi at it's best but it's winning at it just works
all the time.

They have some interesting features too.
The APs can build a VPN per SSID back to different endpoints so your cash
registers go on the SSID that VPNs back to the billing system, staff VPNs
to somewhere else, etc.

They have neat teleworker/remote office boxes to send home with staff. One
box VPNs back to your main office, does WiFi just like in the office for
staff devices, and does PoE out to a desk phone. It tracks MOS score for
the phone inside the VPN, etc.

Built-in username/password for WPA2-Enterprise if you want (username/pass
per employee) so you get the ease of WPA2-PSK with WPA2-Enterprise's
per-user control.

We still like UniFi for low to medium density in unchallenging
environments, though I'm getting tired of hacking up UniFi controller
config files to make handoff sorta work.
I hear Xirrus is the best for high-density from people that do WiFi at
large events (e.g. basketball stadium full of gamers) but haven't had a
need/chance to play with it yet...

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that
 if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some
 time or other.



Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Their fans get hard ons over them. 

Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they 
were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or 
other. 


Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
We know the (former?) CEO and at least one of their engineers. AFAIK, 
they sell an enterprise WiFi management system.  Haven't kept track of 
them other than that.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/2/2015 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that 
if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at 
some time or other.




[AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Chuck McCown
I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that if they 
were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or 
other.  

Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Patrick Leary
Chuck,
Aruba was one of the original switched Wi-Fi vendors, like Airespace that
Cisco bought around 2005. Aruba now is part of HP, who had been really late
in the game (even later than Juniper) in broadening its in-house expertise
to include Wi-Fi.

Patrick

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that
 if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some
 time or other.




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Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Rory Conaway
Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen.  There 
was definitely value in that.  They were the only ones that seemed to have done 
that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

Their fans get hard ons over them.

Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need.


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From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that if they 
were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or 
other.



Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Remember that R2D2 barrel looking thing that Motorola was trying to launch for 
mobile mesh?  What a bunch of hype.  Did anyone ever succeed in good mobile 
mesh?

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen.  There 
was definitely value in that.  They were the only ones that seemed to have done 
that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place.

 

rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

 

Their fans get hard ons over them.

Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com








From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that if they 
were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or 
other.  

 


Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

2015-03-02 Thread Rory Conaway
BelAir did the same thing, but they did it the right way technically, separate 
radios in every direction.  Motorola did it the wrong way at ½ the price and 
introduced the 1/n problem with a single radio.  Tropos had the best mesh 
mobile solution and it worked great.  Aruba has a great mobile solution also up 
to about 40mph though, just not the cheapest.  None of them had any reasonable 
throughput though over multiple hops, especially with the 1/N issue.  When we 
tested the BelAir, the best we could get through it was about 17Mbps TCP/IP 
versus SkyPilot at 12Mbps but the BelAir could hop.The biggest problem for 
all of them is they priced themselves out of the market.

The most cost effective solution today is any vendor with a Peplink mobile 
router in the car with dual radios talking to the cheapest APs you can get up 
on the poles.  It can look ahead and connect before dropping the previous 
connection.   Rocket M2’s with omni’s work pretty well.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

Remember that R2D2 barrel looking thing that Motorola was trying to launch for 
mobile mesh?  What a bunch of hype.  Did anyone ever succeed in good mobile 
mesh?

From: Rory Conawaymailto:r...@triadwireless.net
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:07 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen.  There 
was definitely value in that.  They were the only ones that seemed to have done 
that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?

Their fans get hard ons over them.

Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need.


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From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
I see HP bought them.  Never heard of them.  I would have thought that if they 
were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or 
other.