[AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math
and my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Jaime Solorza]

Teletronic had an utility which was pretty easy to use...
On Jun 10, 2016 11:37 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:

> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[David]

http://www.wirelessconnections.net/calcs/AntDowntiltCalc.asp

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/antenna-downtilt-and-coverage-calculator/

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>



-- 
David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[chuck]

Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.



From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Jaime Solorza]

I am tanned enough well face and arms...legs like Casper
On Jun 10, 2016 12:03 PM,  wrote:

> 
>
> Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
>
> 
>
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>
>
> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Hardy, Tim]

https://www.comsearch.com/index2.jsp


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time.


Best regards,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net<http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[chuck]

Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the area 
you want to focus the energy.  

If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 100/5280.  = 
.189

Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.  

TAN = Rise over Run.  
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run

To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a calculator 
web page etc.  
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator



Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.



From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Thanks Chuck. That actually is quite simple. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the
area you want to focus the energy.  

 

If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 100/5280.
= .189

 

Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of
downtilt.  

 

TAN = Rise over Run.  

Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run

 

To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a calculator
web page etc.  

With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.  

 

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 



 

Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.

 



 

From: Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>  

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math
and my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Maybe its just me and I don’t understand how to input into it correctly but 
that second link is giving me some funky data. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

http://www.wirelessconnections.net/calcs/AntDowntiltCalc.asp

 

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/antenna-downtilt-and-coverage-calculator/

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 





 

-- 

David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[David]

Worked for me. Are you calculating for downtilt or for distance? There is a
drop down selection.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Maybe its just me and I don’t understand how to input into it correctly
> but that second link is giving me some funky data.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>
>
>
> http://www.wirelessconnections.net/calcs/AntDowntiltCalc.asp
>
>
>
>
> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/antenna-downtilt-and-coverage-calculator/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> David Kunat
>



-- 
David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[chuck]

Does this help?

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Maybe its just me and I don’t understand how to input into it correctly but 
that second link is giving me some funky data. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

http://www.wirelessconnections.net/calcs/AntDowntiltCalc.asp

 

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/antenna-downtilt-and-coverage-calculator/

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 





 

-- 

David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Yep missed the drop down. Thanks.

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 2:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

Worked for me. Are you calculating for downtilt or for distance? There is a 
drop down selection.

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  
wrote:

Maybe its just me and I don’t understand how to input into it correctly but 
that second link is giving me some funky data. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

 

http://www.wirelessconnections.net/calcs/AntDowntiltCalc.asp

 

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/antenna-downtilt-and-coverage-calculator/

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 





 

-- 

David Kunat





 

-- 

David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Ken Hohhof]

So you are a flat earth believer?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the area 
you want to focus the energy.  

If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 100/5280.  = 
.189

Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.  

TAN = Rise over Run.  
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run

To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a calculator 
web page etc.  
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator



Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.



From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Bill Prince]

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" 
to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking 
about. Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.



bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to 
the area you want to focus the energy.
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.  = .189
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.

TAN = Rise over Run.
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.

With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.

*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier 
way then using math and my brain every time.


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Ken Hohhof]

But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.

Then there’s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by atmosphere).

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" to 
flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about. Beyond 
that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.



bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  So you are a flat earth believer?
  �
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
  �
  Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the area 
you want to focus the energy.� 
  �
  If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.� = .189
  �
  Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.� 
  �
  TAN = Rise over Run.� 
  Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
  �
  To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a calculator 
web page etc.� 
  With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.� 
  �
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
  �
  
  �
  Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
  �
  
  �
  From: Brandon Yuchasz 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
  �
  Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering what 
most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math and 
my brain every time. 

  �

  �

  Best regards,

  Brandon Yuchasz

  GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

  �

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Bill Prince]

Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.


bp


On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by 
atmosphere).

*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as 
"close" to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth 
talking about. Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into 
account.


bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to 
the area you want to focus the energy.�

�
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.� = .189

�
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree 
of downtilt.�

�
TAN = Rise over Run.�
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
�
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.�

With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.�
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

�
Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
�

�
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier 
way then using math and my brain every time.


�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

�

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[George Skorup]

You must be related to Sarah Palin.


Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)

On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.


bp


On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
�
Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by 
atmosphere).

�
*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as 
"close" to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth 
talking about. Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into 
account.


�

bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to 
the area you want to focus the energy.�

�
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.� = .189

�
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree 
of downtilt.�

�
TAN = Rise over Run.�
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
�
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.�
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the 
numbers.�

�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

�
Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
�

�
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier 
way then using math and my brain every time.


�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

<http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net

�

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Josh Luthman]

Not flat...

I thought it was 10 miles flat?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 10, 2016 5:57 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
> �
> Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by
> atmosphere).
> �
> *From:* Bill Prince 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" to
> flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about.
> Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.
>
> �
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> So you are a flat earth believer?
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the
> area you want to focus the energy.�
> �
> If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet,
> 100/5280.� = .189
> �
> Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of
> downtilt.�
> �
> TAN = Rise over Run.�
> Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
> �
> To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a
> calculator web page etc.�
> With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.�
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> 
> �
> Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
> �
> 
> �
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
> �
>
> �
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> �
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Jaime Solorza]

I see houses and mountains from front porch..I see trees and mountains
from  back porch
On Jun 10, 2016 3:58 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
> �
> Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by
> atmosphere).
> �
> *From:* Bill Prince 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" to
> flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about.
> Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.
>
> �
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> So you are a flat earth believer?
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the
> area you want to focus the energy.�
> �
> If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet,
> 100/5280.� = .189
> �
> Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of
> downtilt.�
> �
> TAN = Rise over Run.�
> Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
> �
> To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a
> calculator web page etc.�
> With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.�
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> 
> �
> Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
> �
> 
> �
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
> �
>
> �
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> �
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Bill Prince]

My porch is at 2450' overlooking the Pacific Ocean. I think I can see 
close to 80 miles.



bp


On 6/10/2016 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

You must be related to Sarah Palin.


Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)

On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.


bp


On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
�
Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by 
atmosphere).

�
*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as 
"close" to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth 
talking about. Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature 
into account.


�

bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance 
to the area you want to focus the energy.�

�
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.� = .189

�
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree 
of downtilt.�

�
TAN = Rise over Run.�
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
�
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.�
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the 
numbers.�

�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

�
Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
�

�
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an 
easier way then using math and my brain every time.


�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

<http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net

�

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Ken Hohhof]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage)


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 5:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

My porch is at 2450' overlooking the Pacific Ocean. I think I can see close to 
80 miles.



bp


On 6/10/2016 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

  You must be related to Sarah Palin.


  Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)


  On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.



bp


On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
  �
  Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by 
atmosphere).
  �
  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
  �
  I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" 
to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about. 
Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.

  �

bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
�
From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to 
the area you want to focus the energy.� 
�
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.� = .189
�
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.� 
�
TAN = Rise over Run.� 
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
�
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.� 
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the 
numbers.� 
�
From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

�
Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
�

�
From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering 
what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using math 
and my brain every time. 

�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

�

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Adam Moffett]

It's that easy if you have very boring terrain.

For those of us in glacial landforms there's this:
http://www.gyokovsolutions.com/G-NetTilt/G-NetTilt.html




-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 6/10/2016 2:12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to 
the area you want to focus the energy.


If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet, 
100/5280.  = .189


Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of 
downtilt.


TAN = Rise over Run.
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run

To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a 
calculator web page etc.

With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.

From:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator



Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.



From:Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering 
what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then 
using math and my brain every time.






Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Jaime Solorza]

Califas?
On Jun 10, 2016 4:22 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> My porch is at 2450' overlooking the Pacific Ocean. I think I can see
> close to 80 miles.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> You must be related to Sarah Palin.
>
>
> Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)
>
> On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
> �
> Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by
> atmosphere).
> �
> *From:* Bill Prince 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close" to
> flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about.
> Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.
>
> �
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> So you are a flat earth believer?
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the
> area you want to focus the energy.�
> �
> If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet,
> 100/5280.� = .189
> �
> Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of
> downtilt.�
> �
> TAN = Rise over Run.�
> Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
> �
> To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a
> calculator web page etc.�
> With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.�
> �
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
> 
> �
> Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
> �
> 
> �
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
> �
>
> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
> math and my brain every time.
>
> �
>
> �
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net
>
> �
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[Bill Prince]

si


bp


On 6/10/2016 4:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


Califas?

On Jun 10, 2016 4:22 PM, "Bill Prince" <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:


My porch is at 2450' overlooking the Pacific Ocean. I think I can
see close to 80 miles.


bp


On 6/10/2016 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

You must be related to Sarah Palin.


Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)

On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.


bp


On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
�
Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path
by atmosphere).
�
*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as
"close" to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not
worth talking about. Beyond that, and you have to take earth
curvature into account.

�

bp


On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

So you are a flat earth believer?
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�
Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the
distance to the area you want to focus the energy.�
�
If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100
feet, 100/5280.� = .189
�
Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1
degree of downtilt.�
�
TAN = Rise over Run.�
Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
�
To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and
finding a calculator web page etc.�
With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the
numbers.�
�
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

�
Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
�

�
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
�

Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an
easier way then using math and my brain every time.

�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

<http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net
<http://www.gogebicrange.net>

�

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Always -1
On Jun 11, 2016 12:00 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> si
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 4:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Califas?
> On Jun 10, 2016 4:22 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> My porch is at 2450' overlooking the Pacific Ocean. I think I can see
>> close to 80 miles.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2016 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> You must be related to Sarah Palin.
>>
>>
>> Low blow. I know. Sorry. :)
>>
>> On 6/10/2016 4:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> Sitting on my front porch. I can see over 40 miles to the horizon.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2016 2:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> But from eye level, the horizon is only about 3 miles away.
>> �
>> Then there�s K-factor to consider (bending of microwave path by
>> atmosphere).
>> �
>> *From:* Bill Prince 
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 4:29 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>> �
>>
>> I believe that out to 15 miles or so you can treat the earth as "close"
>> to flat. No, it's not flat, but the difference is not worth talking about.
>> Beyond that, and you have to take earth curvature into account.
>>
>> �
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2016 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> So you are a flat earth believer?
>> �
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 1:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>> �
>> Seriously, take the height of the antenna divided by the distance to the
>> area you want to focus the energy.�
>> �
>> If that is one mile away, and the antenna is mounted at 100 feet,
>> 100/5280.� = .189
>> �
>> Hit the ARCTAN button or the inverse TAN button and we get 1 degree of
>> downtilt.�
>> �
>> TAN = Rise over Run.�
>> Arctan = degrees of Rise/Run
>> �
>> To me that is easier and quicker than going on line and finding a
>> calculator web page etc.�
>> With an HP calculator it is 3 key strokes in addition to the numbers.�
>> �
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 12:03 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> Look for a button called TAN on your calculator.
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 11:37 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator
>> �
>>
>> Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am wondering
>> what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier way then using
>> math and my brain every time.
>>
>> �
>>
>> �
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>> �
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[David Milholen]

/I like this one/

/http://www.gyokovsolutions.com/G-NetTilt/G-NetTilt.html/

//


On 6/10/2016 12:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier 
way then using math and my brain every time.


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net 



--

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

[D. Ryan Spott]

I use this as a cheat for coverage data:

http://www.proxim.com/products/knowledge-center/calculations/calculations-downtilt-coverage-radius

ryan


On 6/11/16 10:55 AM, David Milholen wrote:


/I like this one/

/http://www.gyokovsolutions.com/G-NetTilt/G-NetTilt.html/



On 6/10/2016 12:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Looking for a very simple down tilt calculation tool and I am 
wondering what most of you guys are using. There has to be an easier 
way then using math and my brain every time.


�

�

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net 

�



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