[AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Nate Burke]

I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band 
management for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or 
Change IP Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used 
to working with the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, 
which is awesome, but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple 
weeks, not a whole server.  Is there a brand/model that works well 
without breaking the bank?  VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's 
been several years since I've last used one, so I'm sure they are better 
now than they used to be.  They were very flaky then.


Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Josh Reynolds]

This sounds like a goofy use case.

Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?

What are you needing this for?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management
> for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
> Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working with
> the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is awesome,
> but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
> server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the bank?
> VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've last
> used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They were
> very flaky then.
>
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Steve Jones]

dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> This sounds like a goofy use case.
>
> Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
>
> What are you needing this for?
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management
> > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
> > Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working
> with
> > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is
> awesome,
> > but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
> > server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the
> bank?
> > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've
> last
> > used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They
> were
> > very flaky then.
> >
> > Nate
>

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[can...@believewireless.net]

You could get an IP KVM for a single PC.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> This sounds like a goofy use case.
>>
>> Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
>>
>> What are you needing this for?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>> > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band
>> management
>> > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
>> > Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working
>> with
>> > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is
>> awesome,
>> > but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
>> > server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the
>> bank?
>> > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've
>> last
>> > used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They
>> were
>> > very flaky then.
>> >
>> > Nate
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Nate Burke]

I'm working at a site with Dual WAN feeds (from 3rd parties), I think 
one of them is acting up, not packet loss, but other weird browsing 
issues, websites half loading, video buffering, but speedtests are 
fine.  I'd like to put a PC there, and test/troubleshoot the troublesome 
link remotely so I'm not sitting cramped in a closet.  By not having my 
access to the PC over the IP and default gateway of the PC, and multiple 
NICs in the PC, I can remotely switch the PC between the WAN feeds to 
prove that it is an issue with that single feed.


IP KVM's are coming up around the $300-$400 range.  Maybe I should just 
drop a Supermicro server in there.


On 1/15/2018 9:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


This sounds like a goofy use case.

Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?

What are you needing this for?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
> I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band
management
> for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or
Change IP
> Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to
working with
> the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which
is awesome,
> but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a
whole
> server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking
the bank?
> VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years
since I've last
> used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be. 
They were

> very flaky then.
>
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Robert]

https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A2SAV-Mini-ITX-Motherboard/dp/B076J1FJD2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516032797&sr=8-1&keywords=a2sav

There are also versions of this a little pricier that will take more 
memory..   But these perform pretty well even with only 8 gigs..




On 1/15/18 7:11 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band 
management for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or 
Change IP Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used 
to working with the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, 
which is awesome, but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple 
weeks, not a whole server.  Is there a brand/model that works well 
without breaking the bank?  VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's 
been several years since I've last used one, so I'm sure they are better 
now than they used to be.  They were very flaky then.


Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[George Skorup]

I've got three SuperMicro 5018A-FTN4's deployed at towers as anycast 
DNS/NTP/RADIUS/etc nodes. Plenty fast and pull only about 20-25W. The 
fan is nearly silent unless you kick it up to full speed. Single SSD and 
16GB of RAM. You get IPMI and quad Intel NICs. Just note it takes ECC 
SO-DIMMs.


I've bought some stuff from these guys too: 
https://www.theserverstore.com/ Grabbed a $4k dual-node server from them 
and one of the m/b's won't boot, but it was only $325 and I was more 
interested in the chassis since I have spare boards anyway, so I didn't 
even bother with the DOA warranty. Came super clean, almost brand new 
looking, and no damage at all.


On 1/15/2018 9:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I'm working at a site with Dual WAN feeds (from 3rd parties), I think 
one of them is acting up, not packet loss, but other weird browsing 
issues, websites half loading, video buffering, but speedtests are 
fine.  I'd like to put a PC there, and test/troubleshoot the 
troublesome link remotely so I'm not sitting cramped in a closet.  By 
not having my access to the PC over the IP and default gateway of the 
PC, and multiple NICs in the PC, I can remotely switch the PC between 
the WAN feeds to prove that it is an issue with that single feed.


IP KVM's are coming up around the $300-$400 range.  Maybe I should 
just drop a Supermicro server in there.


On 1/15/2018 9:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


This sounds like a goofy use case.

Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?

What are you needing this for?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke 
wrote:
> I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band
management
> for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or
Change IP
> Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to
working with
> the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which
is awesome,
> but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a
whole
> server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without
breaking the bank?
> VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years
since I've last
> used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to
be.  They were
> very flaky then.
>
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
This works great:

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On 1/15/18 8:38 AM,
  can...@believewireless.net wrote:


  
You could get
  an IP KVM for a single PC.
  
  
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Steve
  Jones 
  wrote:
  
dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to
  manage our office rack

  

  On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25
AM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:
This
  sounds like a goofy use case.
  
  Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
  
  What are you needing this for?
  

  On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke
  
  wrote:
  > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I
  want true out of Band management
  > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the
  Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
  > Addresses without dropping management
  connectivity. I'm used to working with
  > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI
  Functionality, which is awesome,
  > but I just need a simple PC at a site for
  a couple weeks, not a whole
  > server.  Is there a brand/model that
  works well without breaking the bank?
  > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's
  been several years since I've last
  > used one, so I'm sure they are better now
  than they used to be.  They were
  > very flaky then.
  >
  > Nate

  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Dennis Burgess]

Except TeamViewer has been hacked.. lol


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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
This sounds like a goofy use case.

Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?

What are you needing this for?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
> I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management
> for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
> Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working with
> the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is awesome,
> but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
> server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the bank?
> VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've last
> used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They were
> very flaky then.
>
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Steve Jones]

everything has been hacked buddy, just some companies have the luxury of
better lawyers to hide that fact (hes right though, its bad juju to use
teamviewer if youre looking at it from a best practices point of view)

but this is a good scenario for virtualbox, two VMs from the host one VM
for each provider. stick 3 NICs in (one for each provider VM and one for
the management OS) virtualbox network performance has been really good for
me in the past with direct mapped interface (dont do any shared virtual
interfaces)

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Dennis Burgess 
wrote:

> Except TeamViewer has been hacked.. lol
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 9:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management
>
>
>
> dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a goofy use case.
>
> Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
>
> What are you needing this for?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management
> > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
> > Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working
> with
> > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is
> awesome,
> > but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
> > server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the
> bank?
> > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've
> last
> > used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They
> were
> > very flaky then.
> >
> > Nate
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Has Windows RDP been hacked?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> everything has been hacked buddy, just some companies have the luxury of
> better lawyers to hide that fact (hes right though, its bad juju to use
> teamviewer if youre looking at it from a best practices point of view)
>
> but this is a good scenario for virtualbox, two VMs from the host one VM
> for each provider. stick 3 NICs in (one for each provider VM and one for
> the management OS) virtualbox network performance has been really good for
> me in the past with direct mapped interface (dont do any shared virtual
> interfaces)
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
>> Except TeamViewer has been hacked.. lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 9:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management
>>
>>
>>
>> dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This sounds like a goofy use case.
>>
>> Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
>>
>> What are you needing this for?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>> > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band
>> management
>> > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
>> > Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working
>> with
>> > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is
>> awesome,
>> > but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
>> > server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the
>> bank?
>> > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've
>> last
>> > used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They
>> were
>> > very flaky then.
>> >
>> > Nate
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Steve Jones]

yep not sure about current RDP versions, but if not, just a matter of time.
I prefer the teamviewer interface, of all of them it gives the most real
session feel, multiple displays, file access, printers, chinese guy
verifying my data is secure.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Has Windows RDP been hacked?
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> everything has been hacked buddy, just some companies have the luxury of
>> better lawyers to hide that fact (hes right though, its bad juju to use
>> teamviewer if youre looking at it from a best practices point of view)
>>
>> but this is a good scenario for virtualbox, two VMs from the host one VM
>> for each provider. stick 3 NICs in (one for each provider VM and one for
>> the management OS) virtualbox network performance has been really good for
>> me in the past with direct mapped interface (dont do any shared virtual
>> interfaces)
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Dennis Burgess > > wrote:
>>
>>> Except TeamViewer has been hacked.. lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>
>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>
>>> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>
>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>
>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 9:33 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This sounds like a goofy use case.
>>>
>>> Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
>>>
>>> What are you needing this for?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>> > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band
>>> management
>>> > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
>>> > Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to
>>> working with
>>> > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is
>>> awesome,
>>> > but I just need a simple PC at a site for a couple weeks, not a whole
>>> > server.  Is there a brand/model that works well without breaking the
>>> bank?
>>> > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's been several years since I've
>>> last
>>> > used one, so I'm sure they are better now than they used to be.  They
>>> were
>>> > very flaky then.
>>> >
>>> > Nate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>