[AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in > that regard. > > > > I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on > the AP and station. > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Jaime Solorza" > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am > To: "Animal Farm" > Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > Hello Kool Kats: > Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the > clutches of ole man Winter. > Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at > Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. > The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see > the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no > association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with > height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to > -75 dBm, > The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz > channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise > floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. > The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as > we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I > could make changes to AP but that was all. > We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. > Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT > and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. > Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was > too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in > later posts. > We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso > was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders > with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras > at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated > with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector > on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. > Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
The small WISP I bought had everything bridged without WDS, as well as one I'm sort of partnered with now. DHCP doesn't work properly without WDS, however anything with a static IP works without WDS. A few clients did pull DHCP without WDS, but most did not. - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
DHCP will work through only one non-WDS hop. On our UBNT stuff, the customers are not WDS, but any intermediate bridges/hops are. For instance, if you're doing a micro-POP off of a main AP, you'd want the "backhaul" CPE to be in WDS mode. The CPEs connected to the micro AP would not need it. If you have a Canopy SM/BH feeding that micro AP, you're all good, Canopy is transparent bridging... unless you have translation bridging enabled, which sucks because it's for the entire sector. On 3/1/2015 4:03 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: The small WISP I bought had everything bridged without WDS, as well as one I'm sort of partnered with now. DHCP doesn't work properly without WDS, however anything with a static IP works without WDS. A few clients did pull DHCP without WDS, but most did not. - Original Message - *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 2:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>> wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
We have a couple towers with UBNT 900s on them (sectors) and very poor results overall compared to the Canopy 900s. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:55 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
UBNT 900 works fairly well for PtP links, as long as you don't have anything else in 900 in the area, but for PtMP, you're better off with Canopy in my opinion. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > We have a couple towers with UBNT 900s on them (sectors) and very poor > results overall compared to the Canopy 900s. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:55 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > > > Hello Kool Kats: > > Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the > clutches of ole man Winter. > > Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at > Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. > > The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see > the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no > association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with > height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to > -75 dBm, > > The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz > channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise > floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. > > The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as > we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I > could make changes to AP but that was all. > > We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. > Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT > and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. > Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was > too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in > later posts. > > We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso > was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders > with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras > at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated > with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector > on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. > > Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. > > > > > > Jaime Solorza > > Wireless Systems Architect > > 915-861-1390 >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Good to know.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 5:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
DHCP will work through only one non-WDS hop. On our UBNT stuff, the customers
are not WDS, but any intermediate bridges/hops are. For instance, if you're
doing a micro-POP off of a main AP, you'd want the "backhaul" CPE to be in WDS
mode. The CPEs connected to the micro AP would not need it. If you have a
Canopy SM/BH feeding that micro AP, you're all good, Canopy is transparent
bridging... unless you have translation bridging enabled, which sucks because
it's for the entire sector.
On 3/1/2015 4:03 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
The small WISP I bought had everything bridged without WDS, as well as one
I'm sort of partnered with now.
DHCP doesn't work properly without WDS, however anything with a static IP
works without WDS.
A few clients did pull DHCP without WDS, but most did not.
- Original Message -
From: Jaime Solorza
To: Animal Farm
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Will try that
Jaime Solorza
On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote:
I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in
that regard.
I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on
the AP and station.
John Woodfield, President
Delmarva WiFi Inc.
410-870-WiFi
-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza"
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am
To: "Animal Farm"
Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Hello Kool Kats:
Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the
clutches of ole man Winter.
Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at
Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon.
The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see
the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no
association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height
about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm,
The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz
channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor
was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm..
The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon
as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I
could make changes to AP but that was all.
We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.
Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and
speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were
all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in
this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts.
We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso
was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with
New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2,
3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix
Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual
TY-900 antennas at CPE side.
Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Hope this helps you Jaime, it is just some notes from a PTP and a PTMP setup I have that seem to be delivering good results. When I was running in a noisier environment (PTMP with 12 CPE) I went with an 8mhz channel width to give decent throughput but not wide enough to be affected by all of the noise. ryan On 3/1/15 12:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" <mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>> wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net 900Notes.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Thx. I wont have a chance to test agaie till Friday. Jaime Solorza On Mar 2, 2015 11:41 AM, "D. Ryan Spott" wrote: > Hope this helps you Jaime, it is just some notes from a PTP and a PTMP > setup I have that seem to be delivering good results. > > When I was running in a noisier environment (PTMP with 12 CPE) I went with > an 8mhz channel width to give decent throughput but not wide enough to be > affected by all of the noise. > > ryan > > On 3/1/15 12:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Will try that > > Jaime Solorza > On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > >> I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in >> that regard. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on >> the AP and station. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Jaime Solorza" >> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am >> To: "Animal Farm" >> Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests >> >> Hello Kool Kats: >> Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the >> clutches of ole man Winter. >> Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at >> Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. >> The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see >> the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no >> association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with >> height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to >> -75 dBm, >> The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz >> channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise >> floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. >> The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon >> as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. >> I could make changes to AP but that was all. >> We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. >> Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT >> and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. >> Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was >> too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in >> later posts. >> We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso >> was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders >> with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras >> at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated >> with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector >> on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. >> Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. >> Jaime Solorza >> Wireless Systems Architect >> 915-861-1390 >> > > -- > D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc > broadband | telco | colo | community > PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284360-799-0552 | gtalk: > rsp...@irongoat.net > >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
4000+ and counting - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association. We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Dear God.
--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 03/02/2015 05:40 PM, Craig House wrote:
4000+ and counting
*From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :)
- Original Message -
*From:* Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
That is the state of things here, even in small towns.
-75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t
use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference.
This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t
significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is
strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis.
There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area
that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Hello Kool Kats:
Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are
in the clutches of ole man Winter.
Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed
at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon.
The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I
could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to
-95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two
antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved
to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm,
The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz
channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either.
Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm..
The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As
soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic
from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all.
We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear
LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I
had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out
with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few
time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to
use these. I will share screen shots in later posts.
We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of
El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El
Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using
these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no
problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS
900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900
antennas at CPE side.
Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same
tower.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
On purpose? www.telrad.com www.runcom.com (I honestly ran out of time last week to talk them. I saw them advertise an LTE TVWS solution.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Craig House" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:40:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests 4000+ and counting - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association. We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
We've had this discussion before, but I might as well re-state it. In the right environment, 900 will still have better penetration than 3.65, no matter what fancy trickery telrad has or has not endowed upon it. The TVWS equipment could be an option, although the regulatory uncertainty with the frequencies involved is a bit troubling. -Jason On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > On purpose? > > www.telrad.com > www.runcom.com (I honestly ran out of time last week to talk them. I saw > them advertise an LTE TVWS solution.) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -- > *From: *"Craig House" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:40:27 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > 4000+ and counting > > ------ > *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > > > then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Glen Waldrop > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > That is the state of things here, even in small towns. > > -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use > 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. > > This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t > significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly > rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of > catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the > oxygen monitoring systems. > > > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests > > Hello Kool Kats: > Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the > clutches of ole man Winter. > Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at > Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. > The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see > the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no > association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with > height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to > -75 dBm, > The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz > channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise > floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. > The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as > we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I > could make changes to AP but that was all. > We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. > Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT > and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. > Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was > too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in > later posts. > We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso > was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders > with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras > at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated > with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector > on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. > Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. > > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > > >
