[AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
how salty was the water? (haha) This is curious to me, I hope to see an informed response. -- On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main > break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the > 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a > voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they > were fully submerged for several hours? > > Nate >
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Depends how conductive the water was. At 12V it's entirely possible a submerged battery didn't short itself out. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? > I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: "Animal Farm" > Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water > > Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. >> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 >> 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water >> I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main >> break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the >> 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a >> voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they >> were fully submerged for several hours? >> >> Nate >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down... On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down... On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Argg... Used to live in the sac delta... Lots of idiots on the weekends.. Part of why "used to"... On 5/2/18 8:29 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down... On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
It's funny that you should mention the boats. That is exactly what I was thinking about. We have had a couple of instances where the battery of a boat was submerged for whatever reason. Not only was the battery fine long term, but in some cases there were electrical devices that were still functioning. My very anecdotal and non-scientific answer is that if the battery still shows a good charge when you check it out, it will probably be fine long term. David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 Advantenon, Inc. i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545 -Original Message- From: Af On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water >pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking >with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the >lights 30-40 feet down... > >On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? >>I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>To: "Animal Farm" >>Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water >> >>>Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just >>>fine. >>>-Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, >>>2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries >>>and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to >>>a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are >>>toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't >>>had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could >>>they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? >>> >>>Nate >> >>
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
https://www.amazon.com/OTC-3181-Heavy-Duty-Battery-Tester/dp/B000O3U2UQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1525276929&sr=8-7&keywords=battery+load+tester On 5/2/18 8:43 AM, David Coudron wrote: It's funny that you should mention the boats. That is exactly what I was thinking about. We have had a couple of instances where the battery of a boat was submerged for whatever reason. Not only was the battery fine long term, but in some cases there were electrical devices that were still functioning. My very anecdotal and non-scientific answer is that if the battery still shows a good charge when you check it out, it will probably be fine long term. David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 Advantenon, Inc. i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545 -Original Message- From: Af On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down... On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
I don't have that exact tester, but one similar. I'll see what the batteries do. On 5/2/2018 11:02 AM, Robert wrote: https://www.amazon.com/OTC-3181-Heavy-Duty-Battery-Tester/dp/B000O3U2UQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1525276929&sr=8-7&keywords=battery+load+tester On 5/2/18 8:43 AM, David Coudron wrote: It's funny that you should mention the boats. That is exactly what I was thinking about. We have had a couple of instances where the battery of a boat was submerged for whatever reason. Not only was the battery fine long term, but in some cases there were electrical devices that were still functioning. My very anecdotal and non-scientific answer is that if the battery still shows a good charge when you check it out, it will probably be fine long term. David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 Advantenon, Inc. i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545 -Original Message- From: Af On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Robert" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down... On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Just because they're idiots, doesn't mean you can sink their boats... okay, maybe it does. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Robert wrote: > Argg... > > Used to live in the sac delta... Lots of idiots on the weekends.. Part > of why "used to"... > > > On 5/2/18 8:29 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps? >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Robert" >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water >> >> pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched boats sinking >>> with the lights on all the way till the water turbidity obscured the lights >>> 30-40 feet down... >>> >>> On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> >>>> Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? >>>> I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. >>>> >>>> -- Original Message -- >>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> To: "Animal Farm" >>>> Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water >>>> >>>> Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. >>>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, >>>>> 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and >>>>> Water >>>>> I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water >>>>> main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would >>>>> the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a >>>>> voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they >>>>> were fully submerged for several hours? >>>>> >>>>> Nate >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
I joined Pirate Anon. Part of the 7 steps was giving up the cannons..
That was the hardest part. Almost as hard as apologizing to idiots..
On 05/02/2018 09:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Just because they're idiots, doesn't mean you can sink their boats...
okay, maybe it does.
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
Argg...
Used to live in the sac delta... Lots of idiots on the weekends..
Part of why "used to"...
On 5/2/18 8:29 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
You sink a lot of boats? Are you a pirate perhaps?
-- Original Message --
From: "Robert" mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 5/2/2018 11:25:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
pure water doesn't conduct electricity... I have watched
boats sinking with the lights on all the way till the water
turbidity obscured the lights 30-40 feet down...
On 5/2/18 8:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals?
I suppose all the heat would go into the water in
that case.
-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is
probably just fine.
-Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent:
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
I had an equipment box that got completely submerged
due to a water main break. All the equipment like
routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM
Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to
put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could
they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged
for several hours?
Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water
There used to be at least one high power transmitter, I think a TV or radiostation transmitter that had a water cooled anode. Internally cooled. The high voltage was in contact with the water. It used glass tubing into and out of the transmitter tube. There was a water ion meter that showed if the water was picking up any metal ions from the tube. When it hit a certain number you would have to change out the water because it was slowing becoming conductive. But yeah, pure water is a pure insulator. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:20 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Wouldn't there be a dead short across the wet terminals? I suppose all the heat would go into the water in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 5/2/2018 10:39:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water Their vent valves are one way check valves so it is probably just fine. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sealed AGM Batteries and Water I had an equipment box that got completely submerged due to a water main break. All the equipment like routers and UPS are toast, but would the 100+ AH AGM Batteries still be good? I haven't had a chance to put a voltmeter or anything on them yet, but could they be 'trusted' since they were fully submerged for several hours? Nate
