Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Hardy, Tim via Af
The spectrum licensees charge a lease fee - usually per path, but I'm sure 
other arrangements can be made.  The 602s are all filed with the FCC.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Rory Conaway via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Is there a fee for each CPE installation?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment


They own LMDS?

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Using an FCC form 602.

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590tel:%28303%29%20746-3590

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390tel:915-861-1390


Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
How much bandwidth do they have?

From: Daniel White via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390


Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
So are they using 28GHz for the outdoor links and 5GHz for the indoor?

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:42 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

check this out

http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/bandplans/lmds.pdf




Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

 

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

How much bandwidth do they have?

 

From: Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:05 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

 



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
so it seems, at least here in El Paso.   my friend just installed an AF24
backhaul to same bank rooftop as vivint and is getting 750 ish each way.
Going to use Ubiquiti Rockets out to clients and offer similar plan to this
upscale neighborhood which Vivint is targeting.   He is waiting on a fiber
feed from Transtelco which is still a month away.  Preemptive strike

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 So are they using 28GHz for the outdoor links and 5GHz for the indoor?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via
 Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:42 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 check this out

 http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/bandplans/lmds.pdf


 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390



 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 How much bandwidth do they have?



 *From:* Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:05 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 Using an FCC form 602.



 Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it
 is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.
 He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP
 on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.
 His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since
 they are PTMP?

 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390





Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Who sells pmp equipment for this band?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment


That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI.Their mesh 
AC  AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP
I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed with 
coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Is there a fee for each CPE installation?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Daniel White via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590tel:%28303%29%20746-3590

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment


They own LMDS?

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Using an FCC form 602.

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590tel:%28303%29%20746-3590

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390tel:915-861-1390


Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I think they made it themselves. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:54:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment 




Who sells pmp equipment for this band? 







Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr 






From:  af@afmug.com   af@afmug.com  
Reply-To:  af@afmug.com   af@afmug.com  
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM 
To:  af@afmug.com   af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment 





That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI. Their mesh AC 
AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP 
I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed with 
coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up 
Jaime Solorza 
On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 





Is there a fee for each CPE installation? 



From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment 

Sorry I misspoke. They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder. 

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc. Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz. 

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max. 

Daniel White 
(303) 746-3590 




From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment 

They own LMDS? 
Jaime Solorza 

On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 
blockquote



Using an FCC form 602. 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum. Takes about 24 hours or so. 

Daniel White 
(303) 746-3590 




From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment 


So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment. He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood. His question 
is how are these licensed? Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP? 




Jaime Solorza 

Wireless Systems Architect 

915-861-1390 


/blockquote



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Probably upconverted 5GHz Quantenna chips.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

I think they made it themselves.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL  
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb  
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions  
https://twitter.com/ICSIL 





From: Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:54:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

Who sells pmp equipment for this band?

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com   

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI.Their mesh 
AC  AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP
I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed with 
coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Is there a fee for each CPE installation?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

 

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

 

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

They own LMDS? 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since 
it is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz 
deployment.  He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed 
back to AP on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover 
neighborhood.   His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other 
way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

 



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-26 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
All I could find...
http://www.ibetor.es/pdf/IBETOR-Ib-PmP_en.pdf


Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Who sells pmp equipment for this band?



  Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



   From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM
 To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

   That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI.
 Their mesh AC  AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP
 I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed
 with coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up

 Jaime Solorza
 On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Is there a fee for each CPE installation?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602
 with the spectrum holder.



 Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or
 AP) has to be registered like 3.65GHz.



 Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 They own LMDS?

 Jaime Solorza

 On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Using an FCC form 602.



 Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since
 it is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
 via Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz
 deployment.  He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE
 pointed back to AP on bank building and another antenna with AP used to
 cover neighborhood.   His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz
 or other way since they are PTMP?

 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390




[AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.
He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP
on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.
His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since
they are PTMP?
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Daniel White via Af
Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
They own LMDS?

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Using an FCC form 602.



 Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it
 is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.
 He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP
 on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.
 His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since
 they are PTMP?

 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Daniel White via Af
Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

 

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

 

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

They own LMDS? 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390 



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Is there a fee for each CPE installation?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

 

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

 

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

They own LMDS? 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since 
it is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz 
deployment.  He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed 
back to AP on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover 
neighborhood.   His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other 
way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390



Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI.Their
mesh AC  AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP
I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed
with coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Is there a fee for each CPE installation?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with
 the spectrum holder.



 Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP)
 has to be registered like 3.65GHz.



 Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 They own LMDS?

 Jaime Solorza

 On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Using an FCC form 602.



 Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it
 is their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.



 Daniel White

 (303) 746-3590



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment



 So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.
 He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP
 on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.
 His question is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since
 they are PTMP?

 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390