subject:"\[AFMUG\] Wispapalooza \- where's the beef\?"

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett

So we only had ~430 last year? 

I always thought we were almost double that, but I guess that's counting the 
vendors, associates, etc. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:12:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


The value of WISPA goes well beyond the conferences...the conferences fund the 
purpose of WISPA, which is to continue to advocate for our industry in 
Washington at both the house/senate congressional and FCC levels. WISPA 
advocates on your industry's behalf. The conferences and lists are how we bring 
everyone together to fulfill the mission. The likes of Mark Radabaugh, Alex 
Phillips, Jimmy Carr, and many more before us have volunteered to participate 
on your behalf advocating for your industry. You either support that concept or 
act on your own behalf. 


Awareness wise is hard. We've completed multiple different methods of outreach 
to potential members over the last 5 years, and this year has been our most 
successful. There was an increase of 154 new principle members this past year. 
That represents a pretty substantial increase. That's largely in part to the 
membership/sales coordinator that was hired. The other problem is that there is 
a lot of consolidation in the industry as well. 


I welcome the input, keep it coming :) 



Regards, 
Chuck 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



"it's" 


On Oct 17, 2017 1:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Yes, awareness is terrible. What do you expect from a bunch of tech guys? 
marketing? :-p 

The work in Washington provides more value than the conferences. 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:00:20 PM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 



two things: 


1) awareness of the organization and it's purpose is terrible 


2) how much value can the organization provide to those who don't or can't go 
to conferences? 



On Oct 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 





Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of those US 
WISPs to join. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Chuck Hogg" < ch...@shelbybb.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 



1880+ attendees at the show 
 
Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA 
150 Vendors 

588 Principle Members 
6 Associate 
10 Advisory 



Regards, 
Chuck 

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris < t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 







I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed) 

In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number 
attending. 
I want to know membership numbers. 


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

Daytime # 317-738-0320 
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 
Online: www.surfici.net 

ICI
What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
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From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


I can take asome help in! And I need it! 



Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS … 







From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski < 
andr...@silowireless.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 




I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet. 

I could not imagine the stress. 


Cheers, 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
1-866-727-4138 x-600 
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 

_ 
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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Chuck Hogg

The value of WISPA goes well beyond the conferences...the conferences fund
the purpose of WISPA, which is to continue to advocate for our industry in
Washington at both the house/senate congressional and FCC levels.  WISPA
advocates on your industry's behalf.  The conferences and lists are how we
bring everyone together to fulfill the mission.  The likes of Mark
Radabaugh, Alex Phillips, Jimmy Carr, and many more before us have
volunteered to participate on your behalf advocating for your industry.
You either support that concept or act on your own behalf.

Awareness wise is hard.  We've completed multiple different methods of
outreach to potential members over the last 5 years, and this year has been
our most successful.  There was an increase of 154 new principle members
this past year.  That represents a pretty substantial increase.  That's
largely in part to the membership/sales coordinator that was hired.  The
other problem is that there is a lot of consolidation in the industry as
well.

I welcome the input, keep it coming :)

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> "it's"
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 1:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, awareness is terrible. What do you expect from a bunch of tech guys?
> marketing?  :-p
>
> The work in Washington provides more value than the conferences.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:00:20 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> two things:
>
> 1) awareness of the organization and it's purpose is terrible
>
> 2) how much value can the organization provide to those who don't or can't
> go to conferences?
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of
>> those US WISPs to join.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>> 1880+ attendees at the show
>> 
>> Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA
>> 150 Vendors
>> 588 Principle Members
>> 6 Associate
>> 10 Advisory
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send
>>> Luke down for a week. (if needed)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number
>>> attending.
>>>
>>> I want to know membership numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131
>>> <ht

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Reynolds

"it's"

On Oct 17, 2017 1:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Yes, awareness is terrible. What do you expect from a bunch of tech guys?
marketing?  :-p

The work in Washington provides more value than the conferences.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
--
*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:00:20 PM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

two things:

1) awareness of the organization and it's purpose is terrible

2) how much value can the organization provide to those who don't or can't
go to conferences?

On Oct 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of
> those US WISPs to join.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> 1880+ attendees at the show
> 
> Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA
> 150 Vendors
> 588 Principle Members
> 6 Associate
> 10 Advisory
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send
>> Luke down for a week. (if needed)
>>
>>
>>
>> In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number
>> attending.
>>
>> I want to know membership numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
>>
>> *Daytime #* *317-738-0320 <(317)%20738-0320> *
>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 <(317)%20412-1540> *
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* <http://www.surfici.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
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>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
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>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
>> andr...@silowireless.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Da

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett

Yes, awareness is terrible. What do you expect from a bunch of tech guys? 
marketing? :-p 

The work in Washington provides more value than the conferences. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:00:20 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


two things: 


1) awareness of the organization and it's purpose is terrible 


2) how much value can the organization provide to those who don't or can't go 
to conferences? 


On Oct 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of those US 
WISPs to join. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Chuck Hogg" < ch...@shelbybb.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 



1880+ attendees at the show 
 
Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA 
150 Vendors 

588 Principle Members 
6 Associate 
10 Advisory 



Regards, 
Chuck 

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris < t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 





I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed) 

In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number 
attending. 
I want to know membership numbers. 


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

Daytime # 317-738-0320 
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 
Online: www.surfici.net 

ICI
What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
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From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


I can take asome help in! And I need it! 



Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS … 







From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski < 
andr...@silowireless.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 




I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet. 

I could not imagine the stress. 


Cheers, 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
1-866-727-4138 x-600 
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 

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From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of " ch...@wbmfg.com " < 
ch...@wbmfg.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight yet. 

And is there anything we need to send or do to help. 



Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground. 








Gino A. Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 



Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





Hi Gino, 

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft. Expected inventory after December. 
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft. I found this pretty cool…and if they get 
small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole. 

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system. Probably be r

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Reynolds

two things:

1) awareness of the organization and it's purpose is terrible

2) how much value can the organization provide to those who don't or can't
go to conferences?

On Oct 17, 2017 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of
> those US WISPs to join.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> 1880+ attendees at the show
> 
> Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA
> 150 Vendors
> 588 Principle Members
> 6 Associate
> 10 Advisory
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send
>> Luke down for a week. (if needed)
>>
>>
>>
>> In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number
>> attending.
>>
>> I want to know membership numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
>>
>> *Daytime #* *317-738-0320 <(317)%20738-0320> *
>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 <(317)%20412-1540> *
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* <http://www.surfici.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>> *prohibited.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
>> andr...@silowireless.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
>> not heard anything as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I could not imagine the stress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>>
>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>
>> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>>
>> http://www.silowireless.com
>>
>> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended
>> solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged
>> information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not
>> the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message
>> has been addressed to you in error, please immediately al

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett

Only 588 Principle Members? We've gotta figure out how to get more of those US 
WISPs to join. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:23:08 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 



1880+ attendees at the show 
 
Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA 
150 Vendors 

588 Principle Members 
6 Associate 
10 Advisory 



Regards, 
Chuck 

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris < t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 





I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed) 

In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number 
attending. 
I want to know membership numbers. 


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

Daytime # 317-738-0320 
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 
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From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


I can take asome help in! And I need it! 



Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS … 







From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski < 
andr...@silowireless.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 




I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet. 

I could not imagine the stress. 


Cheers, 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
1-866-727-4138 x-600 
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 

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From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of " ch...@wbmfg.com " < 
ch...@wbmfg.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight yet. 

And is there anything we need to send or do to help. 



Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground. 








Gino A. Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 



Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





Hi Gino, 

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft. Expected inventory after December. 
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft. I found this pretty cool…and if they get 
small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole. 

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system. Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza… 

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off… 

BTW – Bicom was there..finally. 

Did you get your gear yet? 


Cheers, 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
1-866-727-4138 x-600 
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown

How many attended the last WispAmerica?

From: Chuck Hogg 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

1880+ attendees at the show

Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA
150 Vendors

588 Principle Members
6 Associate
10 Advisory

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

  I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed)

  In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number 
attending.

  I want to know membership numbers.

  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  Daytime # 317-738-0320 
  Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 
  Online: www.surfici.net 

  What can ICI do for you? 

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  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

  Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

  I could not imagine the stress.

  Cheers,

  Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

  Silo Wireless Inc.

  1-866-727-4138 x-600

  http://www.silowireless.com

  Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.  

  And is there anything we need to send or do to help.  

  Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.  

Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

  From: Andreas Wiatowski 

  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Hi Gino,

  Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after 
December.  Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and 
if they get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at 
inexpensive pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… 
could stack a tower without a crane or gin pole.

  Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next 
Wispapalooza…

  Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off… 

  BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

  Did you get your gear yet?

  Cheers,

  Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

  Silo Wireless Inc.

  1-866-727-4138 x-600

  http://www.silowireless.com

  Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Chuck Hogg

1880+ attendees at the show

Membership totals for 2017 as of WISPAPALOOZA
150 Vendors
588 Principle Members
6 Associate
10 Advisory

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send
> Luke down for a week. (if needed)
>
>
>
> In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers…only the number
> attending.
>
> I want to know membership numbers.
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=739+Commerce+Dr.*%0D+%0D+**Franklin,+IN+46131*=gmail=g>*
> *Franklin, IN 46131
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>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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> *prohibited.*
>
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>
>
>
> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
> andr...@silowireless.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
> not heard anything as of yet.
>
>
>
> I could not imagine the stress.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
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> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
>
> And is there anything we need to send or do to help.
>
>
>
> Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> Hi Gino,
>
>
>
> Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after
> December.  Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty
> cool…and if they get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a
> UE at inexpensive pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing
> expense… could stack a tower without a crane or gin pole.
>
>
>
> Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next
> Wispapalooza…
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…
>
>
>
> BTW – Bicom was there..finally.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists

It think you are conflating two products...the PTP 550 which is the In the core 
product line, and the new ePMP 300 SM which is being sold as a low cost (sub 
$300) link until the new ePMP 3000 AP comes out mid next year.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:52 AM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Correct, still a wifi product, that's why it comes with the epmp interface 
> apparently. The 450i case is a good addition, still needs to get proven in 
> the field but it all seems real nice. 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> not complaining, force 200 is now my goto cheap link if they have a "next 
>> gen" cheap link, im down
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> so its epmp 3000 in ptp? still a "wifi" product though ?
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It's an AC chipset, it can do non-contiguous channel aggregation, it's 
>>>> CHEAP. Little over $1000 per link. It's weird seeing the epmp interface at 
>>>> wispapalooza on a "PTP" product but that's seems to be the way she goes. 
>>>> I'll be ordering a bunch.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman 
>>>>>>> <john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product 
>>>>>>> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great 
>>>>>>> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next 
>>>>>>> year if not sooner!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it 
>>>>>>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing 
>>>>>>> spectacular either
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 
>>>>>>> ghz? SFP ports? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Ryan Ray

Correct, still a wifi product, that's why it comes with the epmp interface
apparently. The 450i case is a good addition, still needs to get proven in
the field but it all seems real nice.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> not complaining, force 200 is now my goto cheap link if they have a "next
> gen" cheap link, im down
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> so its epmp 3000 in ptp? still a "wifi" product though ?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's an AC chipset, it can do non-contiguous channel aggregation, it's
>>> CHEAP. Little over $1000 per link. It's weird seeing the epmp interface at
>>> wispapalooza on a "PTP" product but that's seems to be the way she goes.
>>> I'll be ordering a bunch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
>>>>> john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new
>>>>>> product announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall
>>>>>> great conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you
>>>>>> next year if not sooner!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
>>>>>> Villarini
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>>>>>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing
>>>>>> spectacular either
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more
>>>>>> 60 ghz? SFP ports?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> President
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Steve Jones

not complaining, force 200 is now my goto cheap link if they have a "next
gen" cheap link, im down


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> so its epmp 3000 in ptp? still a "wifi" product though ?
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's an AC chipset, it can do non-contiguous channel aggregation, it's
>> CHEAP. Little over $1000 per link. It's weird seeing the epmp interface at
>> wispapalooza on a "PTP" product but that's seems to be the way she goes.
>> I'll be ordering a bunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
>>>> john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product
>>>>> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great
>>>>> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next
>>>>> year if not sooner!
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
>>>>> Villarini
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>>>>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing
>>>>> spectacular either
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more
>>>>> 60 ghz? SFP ports?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>>
>>>>> President
>>>>>
>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Steve Jones

so its epmp 3000 in ptp? still a "wifi" product though ?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's an AC chipset, it can do non-contiguous channel aggregation, it's
> CHEAP. Little over $1000 per link. It's weird seeing the epmp interface at
> wispapalooza on a "PTP" product but that's seems to be the way she goes.
> I'll be ordering a bunch.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
>>> john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product
>>>> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great
>>>> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next
>>>> year if not sooner!
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
>>>> Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>>>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing
>>>> spectacular either
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
>>>> ghz? SFP ports?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Ryan Ray

It's an AC chipset, it can do non-contiguous channel aggregation, it's
CHEAP. Little over $1000 per link. It's weird seeing the epmp interface at
wispapalooza on a "PTP" product but that's seems to be the way she goes.
I'll be ordering a bunch.



On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
>> john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product
>>> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great
>>> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next
>>> year if not sooner!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
>>> Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
>>> either
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
>>> ghz? SFP ports?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Steve Jones

what puts tits on yet another ptp solution with the 550?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
> john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product
>> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great
>> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next
>> year if not sooner!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>
>>
>>
>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>
>>
>>
>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
>> either
>>
>>
>>
>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
>> ghz? SFP ports?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Tyson Burris

I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed)

In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers...only the number 
attending.
I want to know membership numbers.

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Internet Communications Inc.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS ...



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Andreas Wiatowski <andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers...have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
"ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers - Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool...and if they 
get  small enough lattice...say 9"..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense... could 
stack a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next 
Wispapalooza...

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off...

BTW - Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread John Seaman

True, but I thought it inappropriate for me to put in a shameless plug

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman 
<john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com<mailto:john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product 
announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great 
conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next year if 
not sooner!
John

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Chuck McCown

‘Not conducive’

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Y’all are conducive to the wilderness experience.  

From: John Seaman 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hey, what do you have against us San Diegans?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed

What ever became of the neutron bomb?

From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)

  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP

--

  From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a 
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.

  On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

You've got half of that in Texas?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere 
pretty and warm.

  On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
wrote:

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried.. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM

    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  
Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.  

From: Gino A. Villarini

Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM

    To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come 
down and help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back 
from him since. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

    From: Gino A. Villarini

    Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have 
not heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Chuck McCown

Y’all are conducive to the wilderness experience.  

From: John Seaman 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hey, what do you have against us San Diegans?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed

What ever became of the neutron bomb?

From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)

  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP

--

  From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a 
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.

  On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

You've got half of that in Texas?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere 
pretty and warm.

  On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
wrote:

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried.. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM

    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  
Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.  

From: Gino A. Villarini

Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM

    To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come 
down and help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back 
from him since. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

    From: Gino A. Villarini

    Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have 
not heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread John Seaman

Hey, what do you have against us San Diegans?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed

What ever became of the neutron bomb?

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)


-
Mike Hammett
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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Lewis Bergman

It was destroyed in 2047 on the last episode of "ORVILLE"

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:55 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed
>
> What ever became of the neutron bomb?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
> Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>> I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to
>> a place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You've got half of that in Texas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>>>> pretty and warm.
>>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>> President
>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>>
>>>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the
>>>>> mainland.  Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up
>>>>> residence in his house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and
>>>>> moving there like 3 weeks before the storm.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>>>
>>>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>>>> from him since.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com&qu

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Josh Reynolds

Agreed!

On Oct 16, 2017 10:53 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>> I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to
>> a place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You've got half of that in Texas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>>>> pretty and warm.
>>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>> President
>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>>
>>>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the
>>>>> mainland.  Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up
>>>>> residence in his house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and
>>>>> moving there like 3 weeks before the storm.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>>>
>>>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>>>> from him since.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>>> President
>>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Bill Prince


Just a couple miles south there is Tijuana.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 10/16/2017 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed
What ever became of the neutron bomb?
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

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*From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
    *Sent: *Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to
go to a place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

You've got half of that in Texas?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Suite 1337

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially
somewhere pretty and warm.

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM

To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
00968

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back
to the mainland. Not sure if he is going to follow
through with taking up residence in his house there. 
Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there
like 3 weeks before the storm.
    *From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if
anyone wants to come down and help, ill will try to
accommodate …
btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but
haven’t heard back from him since.
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
    Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
00968

    So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Chuck McCown

Dear NSA,

I recall this thoughtless email.  I was making a joke.  A bad joke.  I am 
sincerely sorry.  

Yours Truly,
Winston Smith

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed

What ever became of the neutron bomb?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?


  I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a 
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.


  On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

You've got half of that in Texas?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere 
pretty and warm.

  On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
wrote:

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried.. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM

    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?






  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  
Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.  

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come 
down and help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back 
from him since. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?






  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

    From: Gino A. Villarini
    Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?


I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have 
not heard anything as of yet.



I could not imagine the stress.



Cheers,



Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Chuck McCown

San Diego could be nice if all the people were removed

What ever became of the neutron bomb?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:53 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)

  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP

--

  From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a 
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.

  On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

You've got half of that in Texas?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere 
pretty and warm.

  On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
wrote:

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried.. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM

    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  
Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.  

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come 
down and help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back 
from him since. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
    Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

    From: Gino A. Villarini
    Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have 
not heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

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<ch...@wbmfg.com>
    Reply-To: "af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Mathew Howard

Yes, but mid 60s is the coldest it should ever get...

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a
> place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You've got half of that in Texas?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>>> pretty and warm.
>>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
>>>> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
>>>> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
>>>> weeks before the storm.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>>
>>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>>> from him since.
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>>>
>>>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>>>
>&

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Lewis Bergman

Some like it hot

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:32 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get!  ;-)
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a
> place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You've got half of that in Texas?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>>> pretty and warm.
>>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
>>>> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
>>>> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
>>>> weeks before the storm.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>>
>>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>>> from him since.
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>>
>>>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>>>
>>>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>>>
>>>>
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Hammett

Mid 70s is the warmest it should ever get! ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31:25 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a 
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here. 



On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



You've got half of that in Texas? 







Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere pretty and 
warm. 









On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 













Ok cool, I understand… I got worried.. 




From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 


Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM 


To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 







Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






He couldn’t take no water and no power. He came back to the mainland. Not sure 
if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house there. 
Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks before the 
storm. 




From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come down and 
help, ill will try to accommodate … 

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back from him 
since. 

From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 






Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work? 




From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS … 



From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski < 
andr...@silowireless.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet. 

I could not imagine the stress. 


Cheers, 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
1-866-727-4138 x-600 
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 

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From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of " ch...@wbmfg.com " < 
ch...@wbmfg.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight yet. 

And is there anything we need to send or do to help. 



Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground. 








    

Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 

Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 



Hi Gino, 

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft. Expected inventory after December. 
Guy an

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Lewis Bergman

I mean warm in the winter. It still gets below freezing. I like to go to a
place that never gets below mid 70's when it is freezing here.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:39 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> You've got half of that in Texas?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>> pretty and warm.
>>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>
> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
>>> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
>>> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
>>> weeks before the storm.
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>
>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>> from him since.
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>>
>>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
>>> andr...@silowireless.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
>>> not heard anything as of yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could not imagine the stress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>>>
>>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>>
>>> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>>>
>>> http://www.silowireless.com
>>>
>>> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended
>>> solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged
>>> information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not
>>> the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message
>>> has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Josh Luthman

IDK the ptp550 is pretty sexy.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, John Seaman <
john.sea...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:

> Hi Gino, While you didn’t miss out on any earth shattering new product
> announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great
> conference.  VERY sorry you couldn’t attend and we hope to see you next
> year if not sooner!
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
>
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
>
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
>
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
>
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread John Seaman

Hi Gino, While you didn't miss out on any earth shattering new product 
announcements, you did miss out on a lot of fun and an overall great 
conference.  VERY sorry you couldn't attend and we hope to see you next year if 
not sooner!
John

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn't seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp... nothing spectacular 
either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D34655.88DF33D0]

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Jaime Solorza

Actually. some very pretty places in Texas ... warm is putting it.  Hot
mostly.

On Oct 16, 2017 8:39 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> You've got half of that in Texas?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere
>> pretty and warm.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
>>> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
>>> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
>>> weeks before the storm.
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>>
>>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>>> from him since.
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>>
>>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
>>> andr...@silowireless.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>>
>>>
>>> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
>>> not heard anything as of yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could not imagine the stress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>>>
>>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>>
>>> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>>>
>>> http://www.silowireless.com
>>>
>>> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-16 Thread Josh Luthman

You've got half of that in Texas?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere pretty
> and warm.
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
>> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
>> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
>> weeks before the storm.
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come
>> down and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>>
>> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back
>> from him since.
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>>
>> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
>> andr...@silowireless.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
>> not heard anything as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I could not imagine the stress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>>
>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>
>> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>>
>> http://www.silowireless.com
>>
>> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <
>> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
>>
>> And is there anything we need to send or do to help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarin

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Lewis Bergman

I am always looking for a real estate bargain. Especially somewhere pretty
and warm.

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 3:18 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.
> Not sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his
> house there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3
> weeks before the storm.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come down
> and help, ill will try to accommodate …
>
> btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back from
> him since.
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> I can take asome help in! And I need it!
>
> Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …
>
>
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski <
> andr...@silowireless.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
> I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have
> not heard anything as of yet.
>
>
>
> I could not imagine the stress.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
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>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
>
> And is there anything we need to send or do to help.
>
>
>
> Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
>
> *To:*af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
>
>
> Hi Gino,
>
>
>
> Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after
> December.  Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty
> cool…and if they get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a
> UE at inexpensive pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing
> expense… could stack a tower without a crane or gin pole.
>
>
>
> Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next
> Wispapa

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Ok cool, I understand… I got worried..

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  Not 
sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come down and 
help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back from him 
since.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:4130432B0C204A9DB8CCA4E1BEEA0C71@ChuckMcCownPC]

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[X]

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Chuck McCown

He couldn’t take no water and no power.  He came back to the mainland.  Not 
sure if he is going to follow through with taking up residence in his house 
there.  Talk about bad timing, buying a house and moving there like 3 weeks 
before the storm.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come down and 
help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back from him 
since. 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.  

And is there anything we need to send or do to help.  

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.  

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM

To:af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off… 

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Hmm I guess .. But.. Im working other angles… if anyone wants to come down and 
help, ill will try to accommodate …

btw: your guy called me early after the storm, but haven’t heard back from him 
since.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:434383BD077D49A5912C19D45F028F9A@MTC.local]

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just anoth

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread chuck

So if someone showed up with camping gear that would work?

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it! 

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.  

And is there anything we need to send or do to help.  

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.  

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off… 

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports? 

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS …



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Andreas Wiatowski <andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
"ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Gino 
Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?



Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image001.png@01D345C6.4712C550]

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

We need experienced techs for towers and repairs… got a 4 man crew that do cell 
tower work, but its not the same… they don’t have the WISP knoledge

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Gino 
Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:D62FA5526C644F7EB2F2710CBAE016F9@MTC.local]

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

We are finally getting stuff, fedex is working with 1+ day on all shipments, 
Ups 1-2 days plus! Lot of Work Ahead of us!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Andreas Wiatowski <andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:51 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Gino 
Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D345C5.0624B860]

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers…have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?



Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread chuck

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.  
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.  

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.  

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off… 

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports? 

  Gino A. Villarini

  President

  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-15 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers – Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool…and if they 
get  small enough lattice…say 9”..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense… could stack 
a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next Wispapalooza…

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off…

BTW – Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?



Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-14 Thread Mike Hammett

Also known as barely catching up, though it's possible that going even newer 
would be cost prohibitive. 

- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 12:24:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 

It's not as much innovative as progress. 

On Friday, October 13, 2017, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 

How is that innovative? RL12 gear has been in the market for years 

From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Jason McKemie < 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:07 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 

>From what I understand the new Baicells isn't just more ports, it is LTE R12 
>instead of R9. I'm curious as to pricing though. 

On Friday, October 13, 2017, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 

Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB. 

Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU. 

Mimosa had nothing. 

Bitlomat was not there. 

Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine? 

Nothing new from Mimosa 

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul 

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either 

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports? 

Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-14 Thread Mike Hammett

It's airFiber v2. Keep up on TBW videos. The one we posted from a year ago 
covers LTU. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Gino A. Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:27:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 


LTU ptmp in 5 ghz? Hows is that different from wifi based gear? 


From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Josh Luthman < 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:05 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef? 





LTU get a date? 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 





Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

On Oct 13, 2017 8:34 AM, "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 





Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB. 


Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU. 


Mimosa had nothing. 


Bitlomat was not there. 

On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 






It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine? 


Nothing new from Mimosa 


UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul 


Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either 


Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports? 



Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Jason McKemie

It's not as much innovative as progress.

On Friday, October 13, 2017, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> How is that innovative? RL12 gear has been in the market for years
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
> Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:07 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?
>
> From what I understand the new Baicells isn't just more ports, it is LTE
> R12 instead of R9. I'm curious as to pricing though.
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2017, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net');>>
> wrote:
>
>> Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB.
>>
>> Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU.
>>
>> Mimosa had nothing.
>>
>> Bitlomat was not there.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it
>> once was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>>
>> Nothing new from Mimosa
>>
>> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>>
>> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
>> either
>>
>> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
>> ghz? SFP ports?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini

LTU ptmp in 5 ghz? Hows is that different from wifi based gear?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:05 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

LTU get a date?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Oct 13, 2017 8:34 AM, "Matt Hoppes" 
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB.

Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU.

Mimosa had nothing.

Bitlomat was not there.

On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini

How is that innovative? RL12 gear has been in the market for years

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

>From what I understand the new Baicells isn't just more ports, it is LTE R12 
>instead of R9. I'm curious as to pricing though.

On Friday, October 13, 2017, Matt Hoppes 
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB.

Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU.

Mimosa had nothing.

Bitlomat was not there.

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Jason McKemie

>From what I understand the new Baicells isn't just more ports, it is LTE
R12 instead of R9. I'm curious as to pricing though.

On Friday, October 13, 2017, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB.
>
> Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU.
>
> Mimosa had nothing.
>
> Bitlomat was not there.
>
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini  > wrote:
>
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Josh Luthman

LTU get a date?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 13, 2017 8:34 AM, "Matt Hoppes" 
wrote:

> Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB.
>
> Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU.
>
> Mimosa had nothing.
>
> Bitlomat was not there.
>
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Matt Hoppes

Baicells has a new eNB with more ports. 5GHz eNB. 

Ubiquiti has ptmp LTU. 

Mimosa had nothing. 

Bitlomat was not there. 

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:40, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once 
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
> 
> Nothing new from Mimosa
> 
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
> 
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular 
> either
> 
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
> SFP ports? 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Harold Bledsoe

I'm stalking you Gino.  ;-)

We showed but did not announce a 10G triband omni, the beamforming client
(MetroLinq LW), MeshLinq (Trill switch).

I think the bigger issue was that everyone was having too much fun without
us.  :-(

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

[AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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