Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
Thanks Chuck, I will forward this to them. However I think some real world examples of agreements in other towns (specifically with non-CLEC) will enable things to move faster. The more data I can put in front of them to support my cause the better. If any has such agreements (or know of such agreements) please send along. Thanks in advance, Rob On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Yes also see paragraph 274, 338, 364, 449 > > -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:52 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > > > You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > >> All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago >> during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to >> use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the >> conduit. >> >> They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. >> >> Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for >> use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner >> 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA > >
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
I think they do use the term utility or quasi utility but the explicitly say access to ducts, poles etc. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement FCC says you are regulated under Title II, they do not say you are a "utility" which is governed by the states. Note: I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. -- Original Message -- From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the conduit. They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? Thanks, Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
Baltimore but I wouldn't show them that. Don't want them to get any bad ideas. Bmore wants $3.33 per foot per year. haha. On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Yes also see paragraph 274, 338, 364, 449 > > -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:52 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > > > You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > > All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago >> during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to >> use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the >> conduit. >> >> They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. >> >> Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for >> use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner >> 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA >> > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
But you played one on TV On Feb 28, 2017 4:25 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > FCC says you are regulated under Title II, they do not say you are a > "utility" which is governed by the states. > > Note: I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last > night. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:53 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > > You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement > > >All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago > >during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to > >use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the > >conduit. > > > >They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. > > > >Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for > >use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner > >650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
FCC says you are regulated under Title II, they do not say you are a "utility" which is governed by the states. Note: I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. -- Original Message -- From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement >All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago >during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to >use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the >conduit. > >They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. > >Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for >use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? > > >Thanks, > >Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner >650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
Yes also see paragraph 274, 338, 364, 449 -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. -- Original Message -- From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the conduit. They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? Thanks, Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
You are a utility, at least the FCC says you are. -- Original Message -- From: "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2017 11:42:02 AM Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the conduit. They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? Thanks, Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
Re: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-15-24A1.pdf Paragraphs: 56 413 456 478 479 -Original Message- From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the conduit. They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? Thanks, Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
[AFMUG] municipal owned conduit agreement
All little town owns a few blocks of conduit they put in some time ago during a side walk remodel. I'd like to get an agreement with them to use it, ie: free access for the city in exchange for space in the conduit. They need convincing that I don't need to be a utility to do this. Does anyone (who is not a CLEC) have an agreement with a town/city for use of conduit/muni-right of way that they would be willing to share? Thanks, Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
