Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
How about a cc1009 with the form factor of the 850 and a temperature rating of 150 degrees. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I just checked with the other brothers. Normis has acknowledged that is a RouterOS problem. The hardware is capable of more. (I'm not sure how much more). He didn't say when they're planning on having it fixed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Stefan Englhardt via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Mathew Howard via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [http://127.0.0.1:58274/service/home/%7E/?auth=co=1de3965e-b725-4c61-b23b-9b05aabb2124:31846=2]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [cid:image001.jpg@01CFF3C7.58116450]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Yes. Or use hardened Switches with POE. Planet/KTI/MOXA have them. More expensive but likely the've a better MTBF than RB750UP and .af/.at compatibility. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mathew Howard via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 15:39 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. _ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � --
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: blockquote RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: blockquote � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � /blockquote -- /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: blockquote RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: blockquote � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � /blockquote -- /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Thanks everyone, and i'm glad i could start another major list topic change... lol - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. -- From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bpOn 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � --
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
What? No pony? bp On 10/29/2014 6:43 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � --
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
POE on a gigabit port is a special sort of animal. Might preclude doing non-gigabit on those ports. bp On 10/30/2014 7:38 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � --
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I just checked with the other brothers. Normis has acknowledged that is a RouterOS problem. The hardware is capable of more. (I'm not sure how much more). He didn't say when they're planning on having it fixed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: blockquote RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: blockquote � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � /blockquote -- /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
That would be fine for me From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik POE on a gigabit port is a special sort of animal. Might preclude doing non-gigabit on those ports. bp On 10/30/2014 7:38 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [cid:image001.jpg@01CFF43D.CAC738F0]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I know PoE Gigabit is a bit different, but Ubiquiti can do it, so I don't see any reason MikroTik shouldn't be able to... From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik POE on a gigabit port is a special sort of animal. Might preclude doing non-gigabit on those ports. bp On 10/30/2014 7:38 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [cid:part1.00050502.05080305@SkylineBroadbandService.com]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [http://127.0.0.1:58274/service/home/%7E/?auth=coid=1de3965e-b725-4c61-b23b-9b05aabb2124:31846part=2]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
?you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS ... Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � -- [http://127.0.0.1:58274/service/home/%7E/?auth=coid=1de3965e-b725-4c61-b23b-9b05aabb2124:31846part=2]
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: blockquote RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: blockquote � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � /blockquote -- /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start building it. I'll even rate them as Don't release it with(out) this feature, Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it and Meh. I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: blockquote RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: blockquote � OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please � thanks � /blockquote -- /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I would love to do that too... even if they didn't listen to us, at least I'd get the satisfaction of being able to say I told you so when they release it and everyone complains about it being made wrong. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start building it. I'll even rate them as Don't release it with(out) this feature, Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it and Meh. I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I'd think it'd make their job easier. They don't fully develop a product and then have to rebuild it because they did it wrong. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:17:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I would love to do that too... even if they didn't listen to us, at least I'd get the satisfaction of being able to say I told you so when they release it and everyone complains about it being made wrong. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start building it. I'll even rate them as Don't release it with(out) this feature, Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it and Meh. I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
It's the Microsoft model. Don't spend too much time attempting to develop what customers actually want. Develop what you think they want, and they'll tell you what's wrong with it. By the 3rd iteration it'll be close enough. bp On 10/30/2014 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I'd think it'd make their job easier. They don't fully develop a product and then have to rebuild it because they did it wrong. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:17:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I would love to do that too... even if they didn't listen to us, at least I'd get the satisfaction of being able to say I told you so when they release it and everyone complains about it being made wrong. *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start building it. I'll even rate them as Don't release it with(out) this feature, Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it and Meh. I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. *From:* Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … *Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett via Af *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 30. Oktober
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
I don't care what you want as long as I have what I want. :-p Generally the things I'm asking for, everyone would want. They're features to improve the product, not a personalization. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:01:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Then it will work for you, but not for me (maybe). Nobody likes my color themes either. bp On 10/30/2014 10:07 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start building it. I'll even rate them as Don't release it with(out) this feature, Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it and Meh. I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but then they screw up one or two things really badly. From: Af [ af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [ af@afmug.com ] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at the top of the list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. From: Af [ af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [ af@afmug.com ] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Oh, I didn't know that. Then yes, pitch the 850. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … Von: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole stack of them to get around that. From: Af [ af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [ af@afmug.com ] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: blockquote Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them )..� For DC input up to 30Volts or even
[AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks
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493, 493G, 2011, 1100AHx2, CRS109, CRS125 From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks
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493g? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Oct 29, 2014, at 5:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks
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RB2011? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/29/2014 02:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them ).. For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks --
Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik
Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports for whatever. On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them ).. For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to have a little thing like that :( On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. bp On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via POE. does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please thanks --
