Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

[Rory Conaway]

And keep in mind they run in 4.9GHz.  That’s huge.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

Everyone always says 3m separation. That's usually not possible.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Stefan Englhardt" mailto:s...@genias.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:45:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite
Yes. They are cheap and I guess they perform well.

But we’ve seen even with a lot of frequency separation our B5s are hurt
by colocated radios. Support tells us to separate the radios by at least
3 meters.

If you can separate them enough you’ll sure be happy with them.
We cant use 5.1 …


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 16:30
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

There are tons of use for this radio.  The radio pushes about 450mbps with no 
problem with 80MHz channels for $300.  How could you not find a place for this? 
 I’m planning on upgrading a bunch of Nanostations that are doing nothing but 
that on short range links.  Even without sync, there is a boatload of 5GHz 
spectrum, and in many cases, if you are afraid of the interference, just move 
it to a different wall.  I’ve got a B5 and B5-Lite on the same pole within 5’ 
of each other and I’m running the B5-Lite at 80Mhz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

Hi,

just got the availability anouncement.

I do not see the point of B5 Lite for a Wisp. It is a single .ac radio like 
UBNT or MT without sync or filtering.
But if it shows the same level of colocation interference problems as B5 does 
(you have to separate
it 3m from other gear or modulations goes down) it cant compete with e.g. 
PowerBeam M5 AC ISO.

If it was syncable somehow with B5 so you can colocate B5 and B5 lite it would 
make sense to me.
So a B5 lite with this form factor, one radio and GPS …

But I guess this is the same HW as planned for the PTMP CPE so they have to 
develop this gear anyway.

Stefan

Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

[Mike Hammett]

Everyone always says 3m separation. That's usually not possible. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Stefan Englhardt"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:45:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite 



Yes. They are cheap and I guess they perform well. 

But we’ve seen even with a lot of frequency separation our B5s are hurt 
by colocated radios. Support tells us to separate the radios by at least 
3 meters. 

If you can separate them enough you’ll sure be happy with them. 
We cant use 5.1 … 




Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 16:30 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite 

There are tons of use for this radio. The radio pushes about 450mbps with no 
problem with 80MHz channels for $300. How could you not find a place for this? 
I’m planning on upgrading a bunch of Nanostations that are doing nothing but 
that on short range links. Even without sync, there is a boatload of 5GHz 
spectrum, and in many cases, if you are afraid of the interference, just move 
it to a different wall. I’ve got a B5 and B5-Lite on the same pole within 5’ of 
each other and I’m running the B5-Lite at 80Mhz. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] B5 Lite 

Hi, 

just got the availability anouncement. 

I do not see the point of B5 Lite for a Wisp. It is a single .ac radio like 
UBNT or MT without sync or filtering. 
But if it shows the same level of colocation interference problems as B5 does 
(you have to separate 
it 3m from other gear or modulations goes down) it cant compete with e.g. 
PowerBeam M5 AC ISO. 

If it was syncable somehow with B5 so you can colocate B5 and B5 lite it would 
make sense to me. 
So a B5 lite with this form factor, one radio and GPS … 

But I guess this is the same HW as planned for the PTMP CPE so they have to 
develop this gear anyway. 

Stefan 

Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

[Stefan Englhardt]

Yes. They are cheap and I guess they perform well.



But we've seen even with a lot of frequency separation our B5s are hurt

by colocated radios. Support tells us to separate the radios by at least

3 meters.



If you can separate them enough you'll sure be happy with them.

We cant use 5.1 ...





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 16:30
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite



There are tons of use for this radio.  The radio pushes about 450mbps with no 
problem with 80MHz channels for $300.  How could you not find a place for this? 
 I'm planning on upgrading a bunch of Nanostations that are doing nothing but 
that on short range links.  Even without sync, there is a boatload of 5GHz 
spectrum, and in many cases, if you are afraid of the interference, just move 
it to a different wall.  I've got a B5 and B5-Lite on the same pole within 5' 
of each other and I'm running the B5-Lite at 80Mhz.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] B5 Lite



Hi,



just got the availability anouncement.



I do not see the point of B5 Lite for a Wisp. It is a single .ac radio like 
UBNT or MT without sync or filtering.

But if it shows the same level of colocation interference problems as B5 does 
(you have to separate

it 3m from other gear or modulations goes down) it cant compete with e.g. 
PowerBeam M5 AC ISO.



If it was syncable somehow with B5 so you can colocate B5 and B5 lite it would 
make sense to me.

So a B5 lite with this form factor, one radio and GPS ...



But I guess this is the same HW as planned for the PTMP CPE so they have to 
develop this gear anyway.



Stefan

Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

[Rory Conaway]

There are tons of use for this radio.  The radio pushes about 450mbps with no 
problem with 80MHz channels for $300.  How could you not find a place for this? 
 I'm planning on upgrading a bunch of Nanostations that are doing nothing but 
that on short range links.  Even without sync, there is a boatload of 5GHz 
spectrum, and in many cases, if you are afraid of the interference, just move 
it to a different wall.  I've got a B5 and B5-Lite on the same pole within 5' 
of each other and I'm running the B5-Lite at 80Mhz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

Hi,

just got the availability anouncement.

I do not see the point of B5 Lite for a Wisp. It is a single .ac radio like 
UBNT or MT without sync or filtering.
But if it shows the same level of colocation interference problems as B5 does 
(you have to separate
it 3m from other gear or modulations goes down) it cant compete with e.g. 
PowerBeam M5 AC ISO.

If it was syncable somehow with B5 so you can colocate B5 and B5 lite it would 
make sense to me.
So a B5 lite with this form factor, one radio and GPS ...

But I guess this is the same HW as planned for the PTMP CPE so they have to 
develop this gear anyway.

Stefan

Re: [AFMUG] B5 Lite

[Darin Steffl]

I see it being a good product for less than a mile shot to connect
buildings together. So like a business needs a high bandwidth connection
without putting in fiber, we could use the B5-Lite which still has auto
channel and it would provide up to 750 Mbps aggregate throughput for under
$300 for a link. It has its place but I agree it is not on a tower. But for
building to building applications, it should work great since you can leave
auto everything on and not have to worry about the channel being fixed and
then having  interference roll in.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> just got the availability anouncement.
>
>
>
> I do not see the point of B5 Lite for a Wisp. It is a single .ac radio
> like UBNT or MT without sync or filtering.
>
> But if it shows the same level of colocation interference problems as B5
> does (you have to separate
>
> it 3m from other gear or modulations goes down) it cant compete with e.g.
> PowerBeam M5 AC ISO.
>
>
>
> If it was syncable somehow with B5 so you can colocate B5 and B5 lite it
> would make sense to me.
>
> So a B5 lite with this form factor, one radio and GPS …
>
>
>
> But I guess this is the same HW as planned for the PTMP CPE so they have
> to develop this gear anyway.
>
>
>
> Stefan
>



-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Jaime Solorza]

Beer. And more beer
On Aug 20, 2015 8:50 AM, "Stefan Englhardt"  wrote:

> I know J
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Sean Heskett
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 20. August 2015 15:50
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!
>
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor usage.
>
> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
> issue.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> Looks promising.
>
>
>
> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>
> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is
> working on this).
>
> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>
> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>
> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Stefan Englhardt]

I know :)





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Sean Heskett
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2015 15:50
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!



;-)





On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor usage.

Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
 ] Im Auftrag von Rory 
Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since the B5 
is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a problem, 
they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles so it’s 
cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at about 60dB in 
5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an issue.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Stefan 
Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Looks promising.



We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.

Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is 
working on this).

Does the B5 lite show the same?

As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.

So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
 ] Im Auftrag von Rory 
Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.







Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net 

www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>



“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson 
afterwards.” – Vern Law

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Jaime Solorza]

Not a wine drinker...to sophisticated
On Aug 20, 2015 7:52 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Tripel Karmeleit 
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Aug 20, 2015 9:50 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor
>>> usage.
>>>
>>> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
>>> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
>>> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
>>> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
>>> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
>>> issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks promising.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>>>
>>> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa
>>> is working on this).
>>>
>>> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>>>
>>> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>>>
>>> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I
>>> got.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
>>> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Jaime Solorza]

German pastries I do like though and some beers
On Aug 20, 2015 7:52 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Tripel Karmeleit 
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Aug 20, 2015 9:50 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor
>>> usage.
>>>
>>> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
>>> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
>>> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
>>> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
>>> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
>>> issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks promising.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>>>
>>> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa
>>> is working on this).
>>>
>>> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>>>
>>> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>>>
>>> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I
>>> got.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
>>> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Jaime Solorza]

Food? Better than English. Cuisine but that's it
On Aug 20, 2015 7:50 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor
>> usage.
>>
>> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
>> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
>> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
>> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
>> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks promising.
>>
>>
>>
>> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>>
>> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa
>> is working on this).
>>
>> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>>
>> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>>
>> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
>> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Sean Heskett]

Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!

;-)



On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor usage.
>
> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *Im Auftrag von *Rory
> Conaway
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
> *An:* af@afmug.com 
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
> issue.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Stefan
> Englhardt
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> Looks promising.
>
>
>
> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>
> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is
> working on this).
>
> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>
> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>
> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *Im Auftrag von *Rory
> Conaway
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
> *An:* af@afmug.com 
> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>
>
>
> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net
> *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Josh Luthman]

Tripel Karmeleit 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Aug 20, 2015 9:50 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Yeah but your food, wine and beer are far suprerrior!
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor
>> usage.
>>
>> Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a B5 on the same 8’ pole so the radios are about 4’ apart.  Since
>> the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I’m not seeing a
>> problem, they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles
>> so it’s cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5’s at
>> about 60dB in 5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn’t seem to be an
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks promising.
>>
>>
>>
>> We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
>>
>> Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa
>> is working on this).
>>
>> Does the B5 lite show the same?
>>
>> As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
>>
>> So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] B5-Lite
>>
>>
>>
>> Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
>> lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Stefan Englhardt]

You lucky US guys. No 5.1 here. 5.2 limited to 200mW EiRP and indoor usage.

Only 5.6 and 5.8 available. So we have no chance to get a big spread.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 15:43
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



I have a B5 on the same 8' pole so the radios are about 4' apart.  Since the B5 
is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I'm not seeing a problem, 
they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles so it's 
cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5's at about 60dB in 
5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn't seem to be an issue.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Looks promising.



We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.

Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is 
working on this).

Does the B5 lite show the same?

As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.

So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.







Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO

4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>

www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>



"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson 
afterwards." - Vern Law

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Rory Conaway]

I have a B5 on the same 8' pole so the radios are about 4' apart.  Since the B5 
is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz.  I'm not seeing a problem, 
they are both rocking along.  The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles so it's 
cranked up.  The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5's at about 60dB in 
5.1Ghz but with the 600MHz spread, doesn't seem to be an issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

Looks promising.

We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.
Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is 
working on this).
Does the B5 lite show the same?
As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.
So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.



Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net/>

"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson 
afterwards." - Vern Law

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

[Stefan Englhardt]

Looks promising.



We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower.

Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is 
working on this).

Does the B5 lite show the same?

As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5.

So no good idea to colocate B5 and B5-lite?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2015 07:52
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] B5-Lite



Just threw them up today on a short link for testing.  Here is what I got.







Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO

4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net 

www.triadwireless.net 



"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson 
afterwards." - Vern Law