Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

[Bill Prince]

I just heard Wheeler advocating for transparency from ISPs WRT personal 
information "that they all collect". Wha?


But as to your other comment. Don't forget the chainsaw.

bp


On 3/11/2016 10:02 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Government trying to regulate technology does seem to guarantee they 
are always fighting the last war.  Or the one before that.


Let's regulate set top boxes, just as they are going away!

Let's require broadband providers to offer POTS and battery backup!  
And web browsing history, that's like phone company CDRs, right, so 
let's require a PIN number before you can tell the customer his 
Internet is slow because he's downloading a 30 GB Xbox game or 
streaming 3 Netflix movies at once. Why not require all cars to carry 
a shovel and bucket in the trunk for cleaning up the horse poop!  And 
all stores should be required to have a hitching post and water trough 
in front. 

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

[chuck]

Odd, it appears they may be letting the ILECs off the the hook for providing 
dial tone.
And it also appears that the ILECs will be able to charge for providing back 
up power.


-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

Government trying to regulate technology does seem to guarantee they are
always fighting the last war.  Or the one before that.

Let's regulate set top boxes, just as they are going away!

Let's require broadband providers to offer POTS and battery backup!  And web
browsing history, that's like phone company CDRs, right, so let's require a
PIN number before you can tell the customer his Internet is slow because
he's downloading a 30 GB Xbox game or streaming 3 Netflix movies at once.
Why not require all cars to carry a shovel and bucket in the trunk for
cleaning up the horse poop!  And all stores should be required to have a
hitching post and water trough in front.


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0218/FCC-16-18A1.pdf

This makes me giggle.

As someone dealing with multiple content providers, middleware,, set
top vendors, channel lineups, encryption systems, and the new purchase
of a small satellite downlink farm, it's going to be incredibly
interesting to see how the content and distribution industry handles
this whole thing. Oh, the advertising folks as well.

*throws hands up in air*

There are a lot of technical concerns as well... for example, what
happens if we move to an app based solution for every device, and
forego multicast? That's going to place a *substantial* burden on ISP
access and transit networks.

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

[Ken Hohhof]

Government trying to regulate technology does seem to guarantee they are 
always fighting the last war.  Or the one before that.


Let's regulate set top boxes, just as they are going away!

Let's require broadband providers to offer POTS and battery backup!  And web 
browsing history, that's like phone company CDRs, right, so let's require a 
PIN number before you can tell the customer his Internet is slow because 
he's downloading a 30 GB Xbox game or streaming 3 Netflix movies at once. 
Why not require all cars to carry a shovel and bucket in the trunk for 
cleaning up the horse poop!  And all stores should be required to have a 
hitching post and water trough in front.



-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0218/FCC-16-18A1.pdf

This makes me giggle.

As someone dealing with multiple content providers, middleware,, set
top vendors, channel lineups, encryption systems, and the new purchase
of a small satellite downlink farm, it's going to be incredibly
interesting to see how the content and distribution industry handles
this whole thing. Oh, the advertising folks as well.

*throws hands up in air*

There are a lot of technical concerns as well... for example, what
happens if we move to an app based solution for every device, and
forego multicast? That's going to place a *substantial* burden on ISP
access and transit networks. 

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

[Josh Reynolds]

MVCO.
On Mar 11, 2016 11:52 AM,  wrote:

> I have been following this.  Really muddies the water, especially with OTT
> getting increasingly more fully featured with common channels.  The day is
> coming that CATV systems will just be nothing more than another ISP with
> everyone getting their content from a large aggregator and CDN.  I would be
> more worried if I was Directtv or Dish.
>
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:23 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM
>
>
> http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0218/FCC-16-18A1.pdf
>
> This makes me giggle.
>
> As someone dealing with multiple content providers, middleware,, set
> top vendors, channel lineups, encryption systems, and the new purchase
> of a small satellite downlink farm, it's going to be incredibly
> interesting to see how the content and distribution industry handles
> this whole thing. Oh, the advertising folks as well.
>
> *throws hands up in air*
>
> There are a lot of technical concerns as well... for example, what
> happens if we move to an app based solution for every device, and
> forego multicast? That's going to place a *substantial* burden on ISP
> access and transit networks.
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

[chuck]

I have been following this.  Really muddies the water, especially with OTT 
getting increasingly more fully featured with common channels.  The day is 
coming that CATV systems will just be nothing more than another ISP with 
everyone getting their content from a large aggregator and CDN.  I would be 
more worried if I was Directtv or Dish.


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Set Top NPRM

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0218/FCC-16-18A1.pdf

This makes me giggle.

As someone dealing with multiple content providers, middleware,, set
top vendors, channel lineups, encryption systems, and the new purchase
of a small satellite downlink farm, it's going to be incredibly
interesting to see how the content and distribution industry handles
this whole thing. Oh, the advertising folks as well.

*throws hands up in air*

There are a lot of technical concerns as well... for example, what
happens if we move to an app based solution for every device, and
forego multicast? That's going to place a *substantial* burden on ISP
access and transit networks.