Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
The 10% of height + 2 feet rule works the same for 4x4's as it does for telephone poles? On 8/4/2015 2:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
We install 10ft 4x4 with 3-4 ft in dirt with compacted fill, plus a 10ft mast, with up to a rocket dish on it. Never had one fail. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: YouTube.com/watch?v=jigjrs5N9MY Thank you, Brett A Mansfield Silver Lake Internet, LLC On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
You could just pound a pipe in the ground like DirecTV does. On 8/4/2015 1:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
YouTube.com/watch?v=jigjrs5N9MY Thank you, Brett A Mansfield Silver Lake Internet, LLC On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
I have used 1 IMC pounded in with a fence post pounder before and there was no way that thing would turn with what I had on it (400mm NanoBeam). Granted, it was a temporary install on a job site, but it lasted 9 months at the mouth of a canyon through multiple high wind storms. On Aug 4, 2015 2:20 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: That would spin in the wind wouldn't it or is that an example of a bad practice? Keefe John wrote: You could just pound a pipe in the ground like DirecTV does. On 8/4/2015 1:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
I'm more comfortable with your opinions than with some people's facts. ...I think McCoy said something like that to Spock in Star Trek IV. Can I start calling you Spock? On 8/4/2015 3:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete The 10% of height + 2 feet rule works the same for 4x4's as it does for telephone poles? On 8/4/2015 2:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
That would spin in the wind wouldn't it or is that an example of a bad practice? Keefe John wrote: You could just pound a pipe in the ground like DirecTV does. On 8/4/2015 1:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
Yes, in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete The 10% of height + 2 feet rule works the same for 4x4's as it does for telephone poles? On 8/4/2015 2:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
Sure... “Without followers, evil cannot spread.” - Star Trek, season 3, episode 5, (“And the Children Shall Lead,” 1968) -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete I'm more comfortable with your opinions than with some people's facts. ...I think McCoy said something like that to Spock in Star Trek IV. Can I start calling you Spock? On 8/4/2015 3:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete The 10% of height + 2 feet rule works the same for 4x4's as it does for telephone poles? On 8/4/2015 2:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
I think sat dish poles have anti-spin thingies on the bottom. Otherwise, if you put a reflector dish on them, they WILL spin in the wind, eventually. From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete I have used 1 IMC pounded in with a fence post pounder before and there was no way that thing would turn with what I had on it (400mm NanoBeam). Granted, it was a temporary install on a job site, but it lasted 9 months at the mouth of a canyon through multiple high wind storms. On Aug 4, 2015 2:20 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: That would spin in the wind wouldn't it or is that an example of a bad practice? Keefe John wrote: You could just pound a pipe in the ground like DirecTV does. On 8/4/2015 1:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
Depends on wind in that area. A 10' 4x4 sunk 4 feet in the dirt would probably be fine if near buildings that can provide wind shielding. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete Will that be secure enough to handle one of your large dishes? Not sure of the model but it's the one for ePMP, PMP 450 etc. Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete
It's just going to be about 3 feet off the ground and is shielded fairly well by the trailer and foliage. I figured I would put an 8 foot pole 3 feet in the ground. Chuck McCown wrote: Depends on wind in that area. A 10' 4x4 sunk 4 feet in the dirt would probably be fine if near buildings that can provide wind shielding. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete Will that be secure enough to handle one of your large dishes? Not sure of the model but it's the one for ePMP, PMP 450 etc. Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, post or pole. Full pressure treated if possible. 3' deep hole for a 9' post. 4.5' deep for a 19' class 2 pole. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Installing wood posts without concrete A few months ago I read that some of you install wood posts without concrete for equipment that for some reason can't be mounted to the customers home. Is this as simple as digging a hole placing the post in the ground and compacting the dirt around it as you fill the hole back up?
