Re: [AFMUG] List issue
Josh ! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue Your... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 12, 2015 8:52 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Bill… His issue was much more simple. He just had never replied to the Amazon verification… the easiest way to get back “flowing” is the un-sub and re-sub…. Which he did Of course, you’re email headers were being mangled which is very different From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM To: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM To: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in. If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list. Perhaps someone can suggest a fix. *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
Bill... His issue was much more simple. He just had never replied to the Amazon verification... the easiest way to get back flowing is the un-sub and re-sub Which he did Of course, you're email headers were being mangled which is very different From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM To: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM To: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � From: Vlad Sedovmailto:v...@atlasok.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
I hear you loud and clear Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: Unsubbed and re-subbed. Testing. vlad On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address.� If I forget and post from my main email address, that�s what happens, it silently disappears.� Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client automatically uses the correct From address. � So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list. � � *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue � I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
Your... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 12, 2015 8:52 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Bill… His issue was much more simple. He just had never replied to the Amazon verification… the easiest way to get back “flowing” is the un-sub and re-sub…. Which he did Of course, you’re email headers were being mangled which is very different *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List issue The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � *From:* Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
We don't host our own email servers; never have. The company that provides our email mangles the from address to some generic email address, or alias within their email system. Like this: Jan 4 22:10:27 ip-x-x-x-x postfix/qmgr[2576]: DBC50A0A90: *from=SRS0=fEDV.t=BX=skylinebroadbandservice.com=part...@yourhostingaccount.com mailto:SRS0=fEDV.t=BX=skylinebroadbandservice.com=part...@yourhostingaccount.com*, We've asked several times for them to correct it, but they never have. It's never been an issue, until Amazon SES came along. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 7:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don�t follow what you mean by DMARC-compliant. I thought DMARC was a way for a domain owner to specify what to do if an email purporting to be from that domain fails DKIM or SPF checks. Were you sending from your own domain, and if so, what DMARC policy is specified in your DNS records? Or were you sending from a major email provider like Yahoo or AOL that had started publishing a DMARC policy of reject? I think I saw that was causing a problem with some lists. I send from my own domain through my own domain server, and have done nothing about DMARC, yet I have no problems. If there is something you must do to make your mailserver �DMARC compliant�, I doubt I have done it. If you were sending through your own mailserver from a Yahoo or AOL address, yes that would cause a problem. *From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 7:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List issue The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address. If I forget and post from my main email address, that’s what happens, it silently disappears. Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client automatically uses the correct From address. So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM To: af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov Subject: [AFMUG] List issue I will post this to the list. Perhaps someone can suggest a fix. From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
I don’t follow what you mean by DMARC-compliant. I thought DMARC was a way for a domain owner to specify what to do if an email purporting to be from that domain fails DKIM or SPF checks. Were you sending from your own domain, and if so, what DMARC policy is specified in your DNS records? Or were you sending from a major email provider like Yahoo or AOL that had started publishing a DMARC policy of reject? I think I saw that was causing a problem with some lists. I send from my own domain through my own domain server, and have done nothing about DMARC, yet I have no problems. If there is something you must do to make your mailserver “DMARC compliant”, I doubt I have done it. If you were sending through your own mailserver from a Yahoo or AOL address, yes that would cause a problem. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant. My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they would not go out. Sounds exactly like the problem you're having. So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� � From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? � From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. � From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? � is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] List issue
Unsubbed and re-subbed. Testing. vlad On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address. If I forget and post from my main email address, that�s what happens, it silently disappears. Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client automatically uses the correct From address. So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list. *From:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue I will post this to the list. Perhaps someone can suggest a fix. *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue. Vlad On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership? *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. vlad On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Mine seems normal. *From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian? is it just me, or is the list being laggy? Vlad On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/