Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-businessrelated discussions
I use rule in the loosest of ways. I think everyone who posts here can self
police and it's not like we need a moderator to sift thru posts and finger wag
people who are breaking "the rules". Politics tear people apart, doesn't seem
to be any different here.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I don’t like rules and I don’t want to be bothered with more filter strings
in the subject, but a POL filter would be nice. Or should that be [POL]?
From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-businessrelated discussions
I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like the
OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard and fast
rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the majority of the
garbage was from these last few weeks.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at
Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff
around..
On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive.
Without him it would have died.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-businessrelated discussions
I agree, it gets out of hand.
Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing
nature of the list do what nature does.
For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go.
Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so.
Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or
change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most
certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you
see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar
that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front.
Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted
until Doug got pissed about something.
As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed.
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business
related discussions
I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the
list directly, so here goes.
Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or
two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the
BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because
of that.
While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS
is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of
my comment.
People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on
important technology and business needs, IMO.
It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.
Paul
Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I concur. I don't think the occasional political discussion is a bad thing, but it has certainly gotten a little out of hand at times, and I can see how it could be driving some people away. Separating politics from the general OT discussions would probably be a good idea. Personally, I agree with others that have said the off topic discussions are one of the best parts of this list. There are a lot of smart people here and I like hearing their opinions on random topics. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I don’t like rules and I don’t want to be bothered with more filter > strings in the subject, but a POL filter would be nice. Or should that be > [POL]? > > > *From:* Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:19 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP > non-businessrelated discussions > > I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like > the OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard > and fast rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the > majority of the garbage was from these last few weeks. > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at >> Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff >> around.. >> >> On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. >> Without him it would have died. >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP >> non-businessrelated discussions >> >> I agree, it gets out of hand. >> Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing >> nature of the list do what nature does. >> >> For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. >> Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. >> >> Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or >> change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is >> most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings >> unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like >> a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me >> parked out front. >> >> Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted >> until Doug got pissed about something. >> >> As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul McCall >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business >> related discussions >> >> >> I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the >> list directly, so here goes. >> >> >> >> *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or >> two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all >> the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to >> because of that. * >> >> >> >> *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS >> is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point >> of my comment.* >> >> >> >> *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on >> important technology and business needs, IMO. * >> >> >> >> *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul McCall, President >> >> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >> >> 658 Old Dixie Highway >> >> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >> >> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> >> >> pa...@pdmnet.net >> >> www.pdmnet.com >> >> www.floridabroadband.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I use rule in the loosest of ways. I think everyone who posts here can self police and it's not like we need a moderator to sift thru posts and finger wag people who are breaking "the rules". Politics tear people apart, doesn't seem to be any different here. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I don’t like rules and I don’t want to be bothered with more filter > strings in the subject, but a POL filter would be nice. Or should that be > [POL]? > > > *From:* Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:19 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP > non-businessrelated discussions > > I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like > the OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard > and fast rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the > majority of the garbage was from these last few weeks. > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at >> Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff >> around.. >> >> On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. >> Without him it would have died. >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP >> non-businessrelated discussions >> >> I agree, it gets out of hand. >> Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing >> nature of the list do what nature does. >> >> For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. >> Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. >> >> Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or >> change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is >> most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings >> unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like >> a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me >> parked out front. >> >> Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted >> until Doug got pissed about something. >> >> As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul McCall >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business >> related discussions >> >> >> I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the >> list directly, so here goes. >> >> >> >> *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or >> two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all >> the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to >> because of that. * >> >> >> >> *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS >> is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point >> of my comment.* >> >> >> >> *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on >> important technology and business needs, IMO. * >> >> >> >> *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul McCall, President >> >> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >> >> 658 Old Dixie Highway >> >> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >> >> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> >> >> pa...@pdmnet.net >> >> www.pdmnet.com >> >> www.floridabroadband.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I don’t like rules and I don’t want to be bothered with more filter strings in
the subject, but a POL filter would be nice. Or should that be [POL]?
From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-businessrelated discussions
I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like the OT
stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard and fast
rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the majority of the
garbage was from these last few weeks.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at Animal
Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff around..
On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive.
Without him it would have died.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-businessrelated discussions
I agree, it gets out of hand.
Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing
nature of the list do what nature does.
For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go.
Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so.
Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or change
other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most
certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you
see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar
that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front.
Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted
until Doug got pissed about something.
As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed.
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business
related discussions
I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the
list directly, so here goes.
Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or two
people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the BS,
politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of
that.
While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS is
very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of my
comment.
People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on
important technology and business needs, IMO.
It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.
Paul
Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
Also I'm super open to throwing money at Paul for the list if he wants. There's lots of valuable info and people here. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like > the OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard > and fast rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the > majority of the garbage was from these last few weeks. > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at >> Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff >> around.. >> >> On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. >> Without him it would have died. >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP >> non-businessrelated discussions >> >> I agree, it gets out of hand. >> Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing >> nature of the list do what nature does. >> >> For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. >> Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. >> >> Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or >> change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is >> most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings >> unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like >> a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me >> parked out front. >> >> Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted >> until Doug got pissed about something. >> >> As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul McCall >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business >> related discussions >> >> >> I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the >> list directly, so here goes. >> >> >> >> *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or >> two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all >> the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to >> because of that. * >> >> >> >> *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS >> is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point >> of my comment.* >> >> >> >> *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on >> important technology and business needs, IMO. * >> >> >> >> *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul McCall, President >> >> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >> >> 658 Old Dixie Highway >> >> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >> >> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> >> >> pa...@pdmnet.net >> >> www.pdmnet.com >> >> www.floridabroadband.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like the OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard and fast rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the majority of the garbage was from these last few weeks. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at > Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff > around.. > > On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. > Without him it would have died. > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP > non-businessrelated discussions > > I agree, it gets out of hand. > Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing > nature of the list do what nature does. > > For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. > Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. > > Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or > change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is > most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings > unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like > a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me > parked out front. > > Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted > until Doug got pissed about something. > > As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. > > > > *From:* Paul McCall > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business > related discussions > > > I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the > list directly, so here goes. > > > > *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or > two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all > the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to > because of that. * > > > > *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS > is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point > of my comment.* > > > > *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on > important technology and business needs, IMO. * > > > > *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* > > > > Paul > > > > > > Paul McCall, President > > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL 32962 > > 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> > > pa...@pdmnet.net > > www.pdmnet.com > > www.floridabroadband.com > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
Let us all give thanks... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:16 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff around.. On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. Without him it would have died. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions I agree, it gets out of hand. Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing nature of the list do what nature does. For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front. Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted until Doug got pissed about something. As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the list directly, so here goes. Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of that. While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of my comment. People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on important technology and business needs, IMO. It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents. Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I am giving up Trump posts for LentI am thinking of showing up at Animal Farm Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff around.. On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. Without him it would have died. *From:* Chuck McCown *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions I agree, it gets out of hand. Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing nature of the list do what nature does. For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front. Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted until Doug got pissed about something. As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. *From:* Paul McCall *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the list directly, so here goes. *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of that. * *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of my comment.* *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on important technology and business needs, IMO. * *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
I always find it restores some of my faith in humanity when a few people get into a hammer and tongs death match but are back the next day sharing recipes. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions Agreed, I do appreciate Paul keeping this thing going. I do have to say, however, that the OT discussions are one of my favorite things about this list. If people want to stay on topic they could either filter the emails or just use the WISPA list. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. Without him it would have died. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions I agree, it gets out of hand. Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing nature of the list do what nature does. For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front. Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted until Doug got pissed about something. As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the list directly, so here goes. Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of that. While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of my comment. People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on important technology and business needs, IMO. It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents. Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
Agreed, I do appreciate Paul keeping this thing going. I do have to say, however, that the OT discussions are one of my favorite things about this list. If people want to stay on topic they could either filter the emails or just use the WISPA list. On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. > Without him it would have died. > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP > non-businessrelated discussions > > I agree, it gets out of hand. > Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing > nature of the list do what nature does. > > For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. > Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. > > Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or > change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is > most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings > unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like > a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me > parked out front. > > Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted > until Doug got pissed about something. > > As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. > > > > *From:* Paul McCall > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business > related discussions > > > I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the > list directly, so here goes. > > > > *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or > two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all > the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to > because of that. * > > > > *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS > is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point > of my comment.* > > > > *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on > important technology and business needs, IMO. * > > > > *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* > > > > Paul > > > > > > Paul McCall, President > > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL 32962 > > 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> > > pa...@pdmnet.net > > www.pdmnet.com > > www.floridabroadband.com > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions
And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive. Without him it would have died. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-businessrelated discussions I agree, it gets out of hand. Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing nature of the list do what nature does. For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go. Many of us have been on here since it was part-15. 15 years or so. Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or change other than to remain a place where we can hang out. This list is most certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you see the occasional literal “trigger warning”. It is kinda like a friendly bar that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front. Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy. That lasted until Doug got pissed about something. As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the list directly, so here goes. Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of that. While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of my comment. People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on important technology and business needs, IMO. It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents. Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
