Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Bing Ads != Bing (search)

You'll see Bing Ads if you're part of the massive population that uses IE
or Edge or part of the website where they put down Bing Ads instead of
Google Ads.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google
> as default.makes my simple mind happy
> On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half the
>> price.
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google as
default.makes my simple mind happy
On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half the
> price.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper clicks 
from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately have seen a large uptick. 

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google as 
default.makes my simple mind happy

On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half the 
price.  

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Do you have a landing page that people go to when they click your ads?

I would be interested in where the clicks were coming from, clients, IPs 
etc.


ryan

On 12/2/15 8:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper 
clicks from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately have seen a 
large uptick.

*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and 
Google as default.makes my simple mind happy


On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at
half the price.




--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047



Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread chuck
Big Commerce has some stats.  It shows some of that.  

From: D. Ryan Spott 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

Do you have a landing page that people go to when they click your ads?

I would be interested in where the clicks were coming from, clients, IPs etc.

ryan

On 12/2/15 8:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper clicks 
from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately have seen a large uptick. 

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

  First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google as 
default.makes my simple mind happy

  On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half the 
price.  



-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott

That was what I was getting at with finding out who these 'customers' were.

ryan


On 12/2/15 11:55 AM, Jon Auer wrote:
Do they seem to be doing anything once they get to the site? Looking 
at datasheets or something like that?
It could be that the Bing Ads platform is just more susceptible to 
clickfraud.


On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and
cheaper clicks from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately
have seen a large uptick.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and
Google as default.makes my simple mind happy

On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt. And at
half the price.





--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047



Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Jon Auer
Do they seem to be doing anything once they get to the site? Looking at
datasheets or something like that?
It could be that the Bing Ads platform is just more susceptible to
clickfraud.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper
> clicks from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately have seen a large
> uptick.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Marketing
>
>
> First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google
> as default.makes my simple mind happy
> On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half the
>> price.
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Windows 10 is proliferating, everybody is trying Edge. Xbox1 went to w10ish
and the web browser is edge now, and much more functional (pornhub dot com)
Im guessing this is a bubble

Though with edge not supporting plugins, it may dominate when it refines

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, D. Ryan Spott <rsp...@ngc457.com> wrote:

> That was what I was getting at with finding out who these 'customers' were.
>
> ryan
>
>
>
> On 12/2/15 11:55 AM, Jon Auer wrote:
>
> Do they seem to be doing anything once they get to the site? Looking at
> datasheets or something like that?
> It could be that the Bing Ads platform is just more susceptible to
> clickfraud.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown < <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper
>> clicks from Bing.  Same keywords same everything.  Lately have seen a large
>> uptick.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Marketing
>>
>>
>> First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google
>> as default.makes my simple mind happy
>> On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" < <ch...@wbmfg.com>ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt.   And at half
>>> the price.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
> broadband | telco | colo | communities
> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
The market has spoken! 

Thanks.

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 8:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

I fucking love it! once I found out MSRP meaning means the top dollar the 
douchiest vendor will charge, It made my day. I like going to mfg to get specs, 
and when they show what they expect the max retail price to be, it shows me two 
things, how much they value their product and how to identify the asshat 
vendors. Dont take it off or Ill burn utah to the ground

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  You said it.  They sometimes price war with each other.  

  From: Tyler Treat 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:13 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

  Because it pisses off the dealer network.  


  ___
  Mangled by my iPhone.
  ___

  Tyler Treat
  Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. 

  tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
  ___


  On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:10 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:


How about just posting the realistic prices on the website? Why is that not 
the solution?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some 
idea what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people off if 
it's set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on something 
that all the dealers sell for $29.


  On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler 
<ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand 
that price is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if 
ordering in higher quantities.

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___



On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and 
you see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a 
discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?

MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better 
without any prices?

I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am 
pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer 
would do.







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I fucking love it! once I found out MSRP meaning means the top dollar the
douchiest vendor will charge, It made my day. I like going to mfg to get
specs, and when they show what they expect the max retail price to be, it
shows me two things, how much they value their product and how to identify
the asshat vendors. Dont take it off or Ill burn utah to the ground

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> You said it.  They sometimes price war with each other.
>
> *From:* Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:13 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?
>
> Because it pisses off the dealer network.
>
> ___
> Mangled by my iPhone.
> ___
>
> Tyler Treat
> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>
> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
> ___
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:10 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
> How about just posting the realistic prices on the website? Why is that
> not the solution?
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some
>> idea what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people
>> off if it's set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on
>> something that all the dealers sell for $29.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler <
>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that
>>> price is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if
>>> ordering in higher quantities.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>> 417.851.1107
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?
>>>
>>> I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Mangled by my iPhone.
>>> ___
>>>
>>> Tyler Treat
>>> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>> ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and
>>> you see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a
>>> discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?
>>>
>>> MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better
>>> without any prices?
>>>
>>> I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am
>>> pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer
>>> would do.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread TJ Trout
How about just posting the realistic prices on the website? Why is that not
the solution?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some
> idea what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people
> off if it's set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on
> something that all the dealers sell for $29.
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler <
> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that
>> price is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if
>> ordering in higher quantities.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> 417.851.1107
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?
>>
>> I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Mangled by my iPhone.
>> ___
>>
>> Tyler Treat
>> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
>> ___
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you
>> see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a
>> discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?
>>
>> MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better
>> without any prices?
>>
>> I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am
>> pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer
>> would do.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Tyler Treat
Because it pisses off the dealer network.

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___


On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:10 PM, TJ Trout 
<t...@voltbb.com<mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

How about just posting the realistic prices on the website? Why is that not the 
solution?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some idea 
what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people off if it's 
set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on something that all 
the dealers sell for $29.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler 
<ch...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that price 
is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if ordering in 
higher quantities.

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Tyler Treat" 
<tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com><mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>>
___


On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com><mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>>
 wrote:

The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you see 
prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a discount, is 
that better or worse than no prices at all?

MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better without 
any prices?

I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am pretty 
bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer would do.




Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Tyler Treat
I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___


On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:

The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you see 
prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a discount, is 
that better or worse than no prices at all?

MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better without 
any prices?

I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am pretty 
bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer would do.


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
When I first started I just went with the cheapest option.  That was a bad
move.  Nowadays I shop for what works best and isn't over priced.

I'd strongly suggest just putting $99 MSRP and people will know that isn't
what you actually pay.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Tyler Treat 
wrote:

> I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.
>
>
> ___
> Mangled by my iPhone.
> ___
>
> Tyler Treat
> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>
> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
> ___
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you
> see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a
> discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?
>
> MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better
> without any prices?
>
> I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am
> pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the “average” customer
> would do.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some
idea what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people
off if it's set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on
something that all the dealers sell for $29.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler <
ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

> Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that
> price is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if
> ordering in higher quantities.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?
>
> I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.
>
>
> ___
> Mangled by my iPhone.
> ___
>
> Tyler Treat
> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>
> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> ___
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>
> The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you
> see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a
> discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?
>
> MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better
> without any prices?
>
> I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am
> pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer
> would do.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Christopher Tyler
Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that price 
is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if ordering in 
higher quantities.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___


On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you see 
prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a discount, is 
that better or worse than no prices at all?

MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better without 
any prices?

I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am pretty 
bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer would do.


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

2015-09-15 Thread Chuck McCown
You said it.  They sometimes price war with each other.  

From: Tyler Treat 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

Because it pisses off the dealer network.  


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. 

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___


On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:10 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:


  How about just posting the realistic prices on the website? Why is that not 
the solution?

  On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree, most people won't expect to pay MSRP, and it does give you some 
idea what the price is going to be. but I can see it scaring some people off if 
it's set too high... you probably don't want to put a $99 MSRP on something 
that all the dealers sell for $29.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Christopher Tyler 
<ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

  Agreed. As long as you mark it as MSRP, most people will understand that 
price is generally higher than what they will pay a vendor. Especially if 
ordering in higher quantities.

  --
  Christopher Tyler
  MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
  Total Highspeed Internet Services
  417.851.1107

  - Original Message -
  From: "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:30:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Question - OT?

  I'd prefer ballpark pricing than none at all.


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  On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

  The question this morning, is when you go to a website like mine, and you 
see prices that are List/MSRP with a hint that dealers will give you a 
discount, is that better or worse than no prices at all?

  MSRP are inflated a bit, do they scare people away.  Would it be better 
without any prices?

  I know I often skip places without any prices but I also know that I am 
pretty bad at extrapolating my experiences into what the "average" customer 
would do.




Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

2015-09-01 Thread Josh Luthman
My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house
takes the POE with them.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David  wrote:

> We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they are always
> on and connected but when a new client
> joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond check box
> to agree to and they are up and running after
> they slide their card in the slot :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have anything that says your service is already available to
>> the house and that they simply need to call up and pay?  Figured I'd ask
>> before looking on the dark web.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

2015-09-01 Thread David
We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they are 
always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond check 
box to agree to and they are up and running after

they slide their card in the slot :)




On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Does anyone have anything that says your service is already available 
to the house and that they simply need to call up and pay?  Figured 
I'd ask before looking on the dark web.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

2015-09-01 Thread David
We have contracts with the Owner or company that owns the rental 
properties so that we can ensure a always on connection there.



On 09/01/2015 02:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house 
takes the POE with them.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David > wrote:


We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they
are always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond
check box to agree to and they are up and running after
they slide their card in the slot :)





On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Does anyone have anything that says your service is already
available to the house and that they simply need to call up
and pay?  Figured I'd ask before looking on the dark web.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373







Re: [AFMUG] Marketing materials for already wired houses

2015-09-01 Thread David
Thats why we either place the POE outside in a little telco enclosure or 
in the attic.
For the most part works fine until the Power company pulls power due to 
unpaid bill LOL



On 09/01/2015 02:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
My biggest problem with that is the person that moves out of the house 
takes the POE with them.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David > wrote:


We have some rental homes like this in a community and yes they
are always on and connected but when a new client
joins it redirects them to our site with a signup and terms/cond
check box to agree to and they are up and running after
they slide their card in the slot :)





On 09/01/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Does anyone have anything that says your service is already
available to the house and that they simply need to call up
and pay?  Figured I'd ask before looking on the dark web.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373