Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown
It is a weird blend with caucus actually doing the work but supposedly there is 
a concurrent primary.  I don’t understand it.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

I think Utah is actually a caucus state, so I'm assuming it's probably closed, 
but I'm not sure. And yeah, I agree that the numbers don't mean a lot for 
what'll happen in the general, but looking at the huge differences, I just 
can't see Clinton winning there... Sanders, maybe - he did get almost three 
times the votes Trump did, but still only about half of what Cruz got.


On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

  I am not familiar with Utah's primary process, and each state is very
  different. What was the registration deadline for people to
  select/change political parties before the primary? Can you vote Dem
  if registered Rep? Can you vote Rep if registered Dem?

  Each state is very different, and these are important things to be
  aware of as they drastically effect the end numbers.

  On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
  > Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes, and
  > Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick with the
  > party.
  >
  > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
  > wrote:
  >>

  >> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
  >> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
  >>
  >>
  >> Josh Luthman
  >> Office: 937-552-2340
  >> Direct: 937-552-2343
  >> 1100 Wayne St
  >> Suite 1337
  >> Troy, OH 45373
  >>
  >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
  >>>
  >>> Hey...
  >>>
  >>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
  >>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would 
vote
  >>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
  >>> Republican, which means Trump.
  >>>
  >>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
  >>> for him to hang on his wall. :)
  >>>
  >>> Travis
  >>>
  >>
  >



Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
I think Utah is actually a caucus state, so I'm assuming it's probably
closed, but I'm not sure. And yeah, I agree that the numbers don't mean a
lot for what'll happen in the general, but looking at the huge differences,
I just can't see Clinton winning there... Sanders, maybe - he did get
almost three times the votes Trump did, but still only about half of what
Cruz got.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> I am not familiar with Utah's primary process, and each state is very
> different. What was the registration deadline for people to
> select/change political parties before the primary? Can you vote Dem
> if registered Rep? Can you vote Rep if registered Dem?
>
> Each state is very different, and these are important things to be
> aware of as they drastically effect the end numbers.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
> > Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes,
> and
> > Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick with
> the
> > party.
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
> >> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey...
> >>>
> >>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
> >>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would
> vote
> >>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will
> vote
> >>> Republican, which means Trump.
> >>>
> >>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to
> Chuck
> >>> for him to hang on his wall. :)
> >>>
> >>> Travis
> >>>
> >>
> >
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Bill Prince
California has an open primary, except that the republican party chose 
to not participate. So you can vote for any party you like except 
republican.



bp


On 5/23/2016 10:14 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I am not familiar with Utah's primary process, and each state is very
different. What was the registration deadline for people to
select/change political parties before the primary? Can you vote Dem
if registered Rep? Can you vote Rep if registered Dem?

Each state is very different, and these are important things to be
aware of as they drastically effect the end numbers.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes, and
Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick with the
party.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
especially when Trump got 0 delegates.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

Hey...

With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
Republican, which means Trump.

If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
for him to hang on his wall. :)

Travis





Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
I am not familiar with Utah's primary process, and each state is very
different. What was the registration deadline for people to
select/change political parties before the primary? Can you vote Dem
if registered Rep? Can you vote Rep if registered Dem?

Each state is very different, and these are important things to be
aware of as they drastically effect the end numbers.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
> Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes, and
> Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick with the
> party.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
>> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey...
>>>
>>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
>>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
>>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
>>> Republican, which means Trump.
>>>
>>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
>>> for him to hang on his wall. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
True, but my point is that even though Trump lost very badly, there were
still a lot more people supporting him than supported Clinton. If Sanders
did somehow manage to become the nominee, I think there is a chance he
could win Utah though.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> The individual votes don't mean a whole lot, you have to look at the
> electoral.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes,
>> and Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick
>> with the party.
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
>>> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
 Hey...

 With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
 about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
 Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
 Republican, which means Trump.

 If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to
 Chuck for him to hang on his wall. :)

 Travis


>>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Now I am going to have to go back and see if I can find what I said.

My current prognostication is:
Trump V Sanders = Sanders in Utah.
Trump V Clinton = Trump in Utah.  

-Original Message- 
From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:01 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Political Bet 


Hey...

With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear 
about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would 
vote Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will 
vote Republican, which means Trump.


If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to 
Chuck for him to hang on his wall. :)


Travis



Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman
The individual votes don't mean a whole lot, you have to look at the
electoral.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes,
> and Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick
> with the party.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
>> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey...
>>>
>>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
>>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
>>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
>>> Republican, which means Trump.
>>>
>>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to
>>> Chuck for him to hang on his wall. :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but look at it this way... in the primary, Trump got 24,864 votes,
and Clinton got 15,666. If I was betting on this, I'd say they'll stick
with the party.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Hey...
>>
>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
>> Republican, which means Trump.
>>
>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
>> for him to hang on his wall. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Craven lackeys
On May 23, 2016 9:04 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
> especially when Trump got 0 delegates.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Hey...
>>
>> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear
>> about this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
>> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
>> Republican, which means Trump.
>>
>> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
>> for him to hang on his wall. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Political Bet

2016-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Interesting bet.  It's tough to say if they'll stick with the party,
especially when Trump got 0 delegates.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hey...
>
> With the two presidential candidates now decided, I want to be clear about
> this $100 bet with me and Chuck... his claim was that Utah would vote
> Democrat before voting for Trump. I am still betting that Utah will vote
> Republican, which means Trump.
>
> If Utah votes Democrat (Clinton), I will send a framed $100 bill to Chuck
> for him to hang on his wall. :)
>
> Travis
>
>