Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

2015-08-04 Thread Matt
> The issue is the MT don't see the originating traffic, just the ips on the 
> pppoe session, so , not really any good way to see what
> "device" is acutally pulling it, therefore all we know is xyz ip is pulling.  
> Guess you can turn on PCQ and enabgle on both ip pairs
> and ports, this would help.. .

There Mikrotik will see it.  Basically we took out there Linksys
router and replaced it with a Mikrotik RB951Ui-2HnD and it does a
client PPPoE connection to our PPPoE server.  It also does NAT, DHCP,
Wifi and everything else for there network.

>> You would have to have a MT CPE, or something doing the NAT on the inside of 
>> the network.   It has to see all of the private IPs, then PCQ works quite 
>> well.
>
> Not sure what you mean by Mikrotik CPE.  They have a Canopy SM providing 
> access and the Mikrotik acts as wifi router/NAT and does PPPoE to our PPPoE 
> server for them.  The Mikrotik sees all there network and does PPPoE to us.
>
>> Have a customer that keeps complaining there connection is slow.  When they 
>> call in there is always something or another maxing it out.
>>  We bump them to next available plan in there area and it maxes that out 
>> too.  They have a Mikrotik doing PPPoE to our access server.
>>  I am thinking they have someone that maxes things out and then it
>> just slows down for everyone.  Is there an easy way with Mikrotik to
>> force all connections inside to share the bandwidth more equally?  Hopefully 
>> something that is pretty much automatic so when they change there rate plan 
>> on the PPPoE it will follow?


Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

2015-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Use the MT at their house.  PCC their house and it'll help.

Josh Luthman
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On Aug 4, 2015 3:18 PM, "Dennis Burgess"  wrote:

> The issue is the MT don't see the originating traffic, just the ips on the
> pppoe session, so , not really any good way to see what "device" is
> acutally pulling it, therefore all we know is xyz ip is pulling.  Guess you
> can turn on PCQ and enabgle on both ip pairs and ports, this would help.. .
>
> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:16 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE
>
> > You would have to have a MT CPE, or something doing the NAT on the
> inside of the network.   It has to see all of the private IPs, then PCQ
> works quite well.
>
> Not sure what you mean by Mikrotik CPE.  They have a Canopy SM providing
> access and the Mikrotik acts as wifi router/NAT and does PPPoE to our PPPoE
> server for them.  The Mikrotik sees all there network and does PPPoE to us.
>
> > Have a customer that keeps complaining there connection is slow.  When
> they call in there is always something or another maxing it out.
> >  We bump them to next available plan in there area and it maxes that out
> too.  They have a Mikrotik doing PPPoE to our access server.
> >  I am thinking they have someone that maxes things out and then it
> > just slows down for everyone.  Is there an easy way with Mikrotik to
> > force all connections inside to share the bandwidth more equally?
> Hopefully something that is pretty much automatic so when they change there
> rate plan on the PPPoE it will follow?
>


Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

2015-08-04 Thread Dennis Burgess
The issue is the MT don't see the originating traffic, just the ips on the 
pppoe session, so , not really any good way to see what "device" is acutally 
pulling it, therefore all we know is xyz ip is pulling.  Guess you can turn on 
PCQ and enabgle on both ip pairs and ports, this would help.. . 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

> You would have to have a MT CPE, or something doing the NAT on the inside of 
> the network.   It has to see all of the private IPs, then PCQ works quite 
> well.

Not sure what you mean by Mikrotik CPE.  They have a Canopy SM providing access 
and the Mikrotik acts as wifi router/NAT and does PPPoE to our PPPoE server for 
them.  The Mikrotik sees all there network and does PPPoE to us.

> Have a customer that keeps complaining there connection is slow.  When they 
> call in there is always something or another maxing it out.
>  We bump them to next available plan in there area and it maxes that out too. 
>  They have a Mikrotik doing PPPoE to our access server.
>  I am thinking they have someone that maxes things out and then it 
> just slows down for everyone.  Is there an easy way with Mikrotik to 
> force all connections inside to share the bandwidth more equally?  Hopefully 
> something that is pretty much automatic so when they change there rate plan 
> on the PPPoE it will follow?


Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

2015-08-04 Thread Matt
> You would have to have a MT CPE, or something doing the NAT on the inside of 
> the network.   It has to see all of the private IPs, then PCQ works quite 
> well.

Not sure what you mean by Mikrotik CPE.  They have a Canopy SM
providing access and the Mikrotik acts as wifi router/NAT and does
PPPoE to our PPPoE server for them.  The Mikrotik sees all there
network and does PPPoE to us.

> Have a customer that keeps complaining there connection is slow.  When they 
> call in there is always something or another maxing it out.
>  We bump them to next available plan in there area and it maxes that out too. 
>  They have a Mikrotik doing PPPoE to our access server.
>  I am thinking they have someone that maxes things out and then it just slows 
> down for everyone.  Is there an easy way with Mikrotik
> to force all connections inside to share the bandwidth more equally?  
> Hopefully something that is pretty much automatic so when they
> change there rate plan on the PPPoE it will follow?


Re: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

2015-08-04 Thread Dennis Burgess
You would have to have a MT CPE, or something doing the NAT on the inside of 
the network.   It has to see all of the private IPs, then PCQ works quite well.

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] QOS on Mikrotik with PPPoE

Have a customer that keeps complaining there connection is slow.  When they 
call in there is always something or another maxing it out.  We bump them to 
next available plan in there area and it maxes that out too.  They have a 
Mikrotik doing PPPoE to our access server.  I am thinking they have someone 
that maxes things out and then it just slows down for everyone.  Is there an 
easy way with Mikrotik to force all connections inside to share the bandwidth 
more equally?  Hopefully something that is pretty much automatic so when they 
change there rate plan on the PPPoE it will follow?