Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
There's not sufficient spectrum around here, but 7 and 13 have small channel sizes, so to me a waste. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 8:15:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I’ve seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas… 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn : Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37 th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
7 GHz is 25 MHz max and 13 GHz is 50 MHz max - send me your coordinates off list and I'll tell you if the path is eligible. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Is it 25MHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:56 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz Very small channels compared to 6 and 11. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.commailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Aug 4, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I have to shoot 54 miles so 6’ isn’t even big enough. We were looking at 8’. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I’ve seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas… 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.commailto:afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84: Twitterhttps://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law [Avast logo]https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttps://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
I have to shoot 54 miles so 6' isn't even big enough. We were looking at 8'. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas... 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.commailto:afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84: Twitterhttps://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law [Avast logo]https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttps://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Very small channels compared to 6 and 11. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Aug 4, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I have to shoot 54 miles so 6’ isn’t even big enough. We were looking at 8’. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I’ve seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas… 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Pretty much in your area. Not sure what your colleague is thinking. but the FCC has granted many 7GHz/13GHz licenses for private use so long as you're not in an exclusion area. A frequency coordinator will be able to tell you if your in an exclusion area. Also consider possibly ETSI class 4 antennas (I think Comscope is the only one with them for now) they may open up channels you may not be able to get otherwise. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz There is no 6GHz available on the two towers that I looked at. So are you saying it's useless to apply for? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas. 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas. 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
I doubt it but I don't know the others. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:14 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Is SAF the only vendor in 7GHz? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz No... You just need to apply for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:02 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
There is no 6GHz available on the two towers that I looked at. So are you saying it's useless to apply for? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas... 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.commailto:afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84: Twitterhttps://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law [Avast logo]https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttps://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Is it 25MHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz Very small channels compared to 6 and 11. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.commailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Aug 4, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I have to shoot 54 miles so 6’ isn’t even big enough. We were looking at 8’. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I’ve seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas… 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.commailto:afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84: Twitterhttps://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law [Avast logo]https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttps://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-120A1.pdf From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 8:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Is SAF the only vendor in 7GHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz No... You just need to apply for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:02 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
No... You just need to apply for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:02 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law*
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
My colleague is telling me that nobody has applied for fixed PTP and the FCC is waiting for someone to apply and then file a legal challenge. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-120A1.pdf From: Rory Conawaymailto:r...@triadwireless.net Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 8:02 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Every microwave vendor should have 7GHz and 13GHz… they are popular bands internationally. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz Is SAF the only vendor in 7GHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz No... You just need to apply for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:02 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
