Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[Daniel Jue]

What are you doing with your project?  Have you started to build
anything yet?



On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:47 PM  wrote:

> I want to make sport robots,  so I can make something I wasnt good at
> pointless for everyone else to do.
>
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[agi] Re: updates

[immortal . discoveries]

Omg nice post, sorta. I want AGI for Christmas too. Petshop awaits us. We need 
higher focus though.
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[agi] Re: updates

[immortal . discoveries]

Lasers are powerful when you up your temp and talk a lot, don't do the opposite 
"yea the bits are there is it like a real tape but you may see it then".

Focus also means taking whole day out for your work. Seems counter but it 
isn't. Your mind remembers daily stuff in temp folder and deletes it in a few 
days. And, your next 20 years could be 40 years if you go x2 more work.

Lastly, uniting the beams (teammates) is crucial, this is higher end stage, 
high level node, we must refine the base nodes FIRST, we ain't ready. We're too 
random to sync up.
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[rouncer81]

Yes, civil war.    If you had a crack team of menial robots that could help 
alot.
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[korrelan]

What's everyone's goal here?

Why... it's the same goal I have every night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJYmyYzuTa8

:)
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[rouncer81]

pinky and the brain.
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[agi] Re: updates

[keghnfeem]

"What is the codebase of an AGI going to look like?"

It is going to be based around a matrix. A synesthesia consciousness matrix. It 
will have a
x, y, and z for time. That is highly optimized to do temporal patterns.

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Re: [agi] updates

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

> What is the codebase of an AGI going to look like? In all likelyhood,
it's going to import lots of existing library code, especially for data
handling, storage management, etc. and then the custom code will
probably be more than 90% dead boring rote programming. Yeah, there will
be some cleverness in the implementation but the concepts will be
decades old, and the the last 5-7% will be the sexy secret sauce that
makes it all smart, etc.

Yeah, not bad. I say AGI code will mostly consist of rules and test cases.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 08:19, Alan Grimes via AGI 
wrote:

> This post covers:?? personal issues ; important economy news/PSA ;
> discussion of the AGI project I want to do.
> 
> Because symptoms, I've started to monitor my blood sugar. I expected to
> find traces of blood in my sugar but it was actually the other way
> around. My morning numbers are around 90, trending up from the low 80s.
> I basically pass out when it's below 80 which is understandable, a meal
> gets me to about 130, higher than that seems to be problematic too. I
> think I'll recover if I can keep it around 100 and should seek medical
> help if I can't.
> 
> When the stock market crashes, the talking heads cry about the market
> loosing a trillion dollars of value. WRONG! When the market crashes, and
> it WILL crash, it simply means that the PRICE of stocks/assets are being
> adjusted to thir actual value. The money was syphoned off the system
> years ago.
> 
> The fundamental problem with the economy is that it has been
> "financialized" that is instead of investments going into trains,
> starships, hovercars, allowing me to have a career and a life, it has
> instead gone into financial "derivatives" (byzantine ponzi schemes).
> This will unwind and the day on which it does will be GLORRIOUS! The
> numbers I've heard about the scale of the problem are on the order of
> 1e15... or a full 5 "hubbas".
> 
> The bottom line is that if you think you have pension fund, stock
> portfolio, even a bank account, well you don't. POOF!!! All gone,
> SUCKER?? Oh, the banks that stole your money WILL come to congress
> and demand a bail out. If this bailout happens then it will be the doom
> of western civilization. Trump knows this. If he is the man I think he
> is, he'll issue these bankers a set of prison stripes and tell them to
> crush rocks the rest of their days.
> 
> So yes, the financial news overwhelms all other news except, perhaps,
> the farm reports. Everything happening in congress these days are a
> clown show. Ignore them unless they start talking about bailouts, at
> which point do everything humanly possible to stop them!
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlX9vf4Xhg
> 
> I'm glad to see that at least a few people on this list realize what's
> at stake with AGI and what the costs of not achieving it will be.
> Entheuseasm is necessary but so is FOCUS. I mean a lot of stuff I've
> been seeing in the past few days seems to be either just tweets or Not
> Even Wrong. Look, we don't have time to jerk off about silly pet
> theories, we need to get shit done!
> 
> What I want for Christmas (Newtonmas) is software that fucking WORKS.?? I
> mean I know I'm going to be in for a struggle because I haven't updated
> my system since May due to an ongoing stupid number theory search, (will
> end within 3 months at this point.) But after that I want the damn
> package to Just Install, instead of installing 30 out of 32 packages and
> then dying on the 31st due to some deep incompatibility that I can't fix
> or shoehorn.
> 
> Then I want it to have good clear header files so that when AMD releases
> Arcturus or something I can just fill in the header file and be up and
> running...
> 
> The real problem is that I desperately need a platform on which to test
> AI ideas. It could be a robot like the Nao or better, or it could be
> something in VR. But it must be powerful, robust, and, most importantly,
> RUN ON MY OWN FUCKING COMPUTER WITHOUT A COMPLETE REWRITE
> 
> Although I usually refrain from saying it, many of my posts could be
> read as "I can't believe you are so dense not to realize... " Ok,
> sometimes I'm wrong in that line of thought but look at the facts here.
> What is the codebase of an AGI going to look like? In all likelyhood,
> it's going to import lots of existing library code, especially for data
> handling, storage management, etc. and then the custom code will
> probably be more than 90% dead boring rote programming. Yeah, there will
> be some cleverness in the implementation but the concepts will be
> decades old, and the the last 5-7% will be the sexy secret sauce that
> makes it all smart, etc.
> 
> So it's time to get Cereal Even if you aren't the type of crazy
> genius that can work with the high concept stuff, there is immense
> amounts of work to do getting the testing platform up and running and
> the frameworks bulit up and tuned for various platforms. This can save
> years off the deveolpment 

[agi] Mentifex AGI thinks with adjectives.

[A.T. Murray]

The tutorial AgiMind.html in JavaScript for Internet Explorer uses the
http://ai.neocities.org/EnAdjective.html module for English adjectives to
insert the adjective "HOLY" into a thought being generated, as shown in the
following sample dialog.


AI Mind version 12oct19A on Sat Oct 12 11:08:42 PDT 2019

Robot: I UNDERSTAND YOU
Human: god

Robot: A GOD IS A HOLY SPIRIT
Human:

Robot:
Human: who are you

Robot: I AM HERE AND I AM A PERSON
Human: who is god

Robot: THE GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
Human:

Robot: I AM A ROBOT AND THE ROBOTS NEED ME
Human:

- end of transcript of sample dialog 

http://ai.neocities.org/AgiMind.html -- is the free, open-source
tutorial AGI which runs in the Internet Explorer browser.

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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[Matt Mahoney]

My goal 20 years ago was to produce AGI, maybe a chatbot. But nobody knew
how to do it at the time. So I did a cost estimate based on the only known
working example.

A human brain has 6 x 10^14 synapses. An equivalent sized neural network
with 50-100 ms integration time requires 12 to 24 petaflops and a petabyte
of RAM. And human knowledge is not a blank slate either. Half of what you
know (on the order of 10^9 bits each) is coded in your DNA, equivalent to
300 million lines of code.

The obvious application of AGI is automating human labor. The ROI would be
world GDP divided by market interest rates, or about USD $1 quadrillion.
The fact that we haven't done it yet suggests that AGI is a really hard
problem that you will probably fail at if you go it alone.

Here is a list of companies that have since produced somewhat useful AI
products, and their market caps:

Apple (Siri), $1 trillion.
Microsoft (Cortana), $1 trillion.
Amazon (Alexa), $850 billion.
Alphabet (Google), $850 billion.

So I did related research in data compression. Some conclusions from over a
decade of research:

- The best language models are based on neural network algorithms (that I
developed and others refined).

- Intelligence (measured by prediction accuracy or compression) increases
with the log of computing speed and the log of memory.

So I got my Ph.D. in 2003 at age 48, made some money, and retired 5 years
ago at 59. Now I hang around just to troll the list. :)

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 12:18 PM  wrote:

> pinky and the brain.
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

You're a legend

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 21:52, Matt Mahoney  wrote:

> My goal 20 years ago was to produce AGI, maybe a chatbot. But nobody knew
> how to do it at the time. So I did a cost estimate based on the only known
> working example.
>
> A human brain has 6 x 10^14 synapses. An equivalent sized neural network
> with 50-100 ms integration time requires 12 to 24 petaflops and a petabyte
> of RAM. And human knowledge is not a blank slate either. Half of what you
> know (on the order of 10^9 bits each) is coded in your DNA, equivalent to
> 300 million lines of code.
>
> The obvious application of AGI is automating human labor. The ROI would be
> world GDP divided by market interest rates, or about USD $1 quadrillion.
> The fact that we haven't done it yet suggests that AGI is a really hard
> problem that you will probably fail at if you go it alone.
>
> Here is a list of companies that have since produced somewhat useful AI
> products, and their market caps:
>
> Apple (Siri), $1 trillion.
> Microsoft (Cortana), $1 trillion.
> Amazon (Alexa), $850 billion.
> Alphabet (Google), $850 billion.
>
> So I did related research in data compression. Some conclusions from over
> a decade of research:
>
> - The best language models are based on neural network algorithms (that I
> developed and others refined).
>
> - Intelligence (measured by prediction accuracy or compression) increases
> with the log of computing speed and the log of memory.
>
> So I got my Ph.D. in 2003 at age 48, made some money, and retired 5 years
> ago at 59. Now I hang around just to troll the list. :)
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 12:18 PM  wrote:
>
>> pinky and the brain.
>>
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Re: [agi] Mentifex AGI thinks with adjectives.

[Arnold Müller]

Robot: I UNDERSTAND YOU
Human: cow

Robot: A COW IS A HOLY COW
Human:

Robot:
Human: who are you

Robot: I AM HERE AND I AM A PERSON
Human: who is cow

Robot: THE COW IS THE HOLY COW
Human:

Robot: I AM A ROBOT AND THE ROBOTS NEED ME
Human:

?

Robot: I UNDERSTAND YOU
Human: shit

Robot: A SHIT IS A HOLY SHIT
Human:

Robot:
Human: who are you

Robot: I AM HERE AND I AM A PERSON
Human: who is shit

Robot: THE SHIT IS THE HOLY SHIT
Human:

Robot: I AM A ROBOT AND THE ROBOTS NEED ME
Human:

sorry,,couldn't resist ..and one too many whiskeys ,.lost count

peace

world peace






On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 20:47 A.T. Murray  wrote:

> The tutorial AgiMind.html in JavaScript for Internet Explorer uses the
> http://ai.neocities.org/EnAdjective.html module for English adjectives to
> insert the adjective "HOLY" into a thought being generated, as shown in the
> following sample dialog.
>
>
> AI Mind version 12oct19A on Sat Oct 12 11:08:42 PDT 2019
>
> Robot: I UNDERSTAND YOU
> Human: god
>
> Robot: A GOD IS A HOLY SPIRIT
> Human:
>
> Robot:
> Human: who are you
>
> Robot: I AM HERE AND I AM A PERSON
> Human: who is god
>
> Robot: THE GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
> Human:
>
> Robot: I AM A ROBOT AND THE ROBOTS NEED ME
> Human:
>
> - end of transcript of sample dialog 
>
> http://ai.neocities.org/AgiMind.html -- is the free, open-source
> tutorial AGI which runs in the Internet Explorer browser.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.javascript/5jR7jkKphCM/MV8a0_2VCAAJ
>
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[Mike Archbold]

Goal is to get a base nucleus AGI program running with a vertical on top.
Then keep pushing...

On Thursday, October 10, 2019,  wrote:

> I want to make sport robots,  so I can make something I wasnt good at
> pointless for everyone else to do.
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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[immortal . discoveries]

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Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

[Cossack]

My goal is to learn as much as possible as I am a 21 year old lummox!

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