Re: [agi] Pure reason is a disease.

2007-06-20 Thread Eric Baum

YKY> On 6/19/07, Eric Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The modern feature is that whole peoples have chosen to reproduce
>> at half replacement level. In case you haven't thought about the
>> implications of that, that means their genes, for example, are
>> vanishing from the pool by a factor of 2 every 20 years or so.
>> Won't take long before they are gone.  I don't doubt there is a
>> good element of K-strategy in human makeup, but evidently the
>> K-strategy programming is a bit out of whack.
>> 
>> I expect this was caused by our mental programming advancing much
>> faster, at the cultural, meme, etc level, in the presence of
>> language and printing presses etc, than evolution of the genome
>> could keep up with.  My guess is evolution will catch up and
>> correct this in a generation or two, but in the meantime it is
>> going to have substantial demographic effects.

YKY> "Evolution of the genome will catch up" is a very curious notion.
YKY> Can you elaborate on this?

The people who are motivated to have more babies will have more babies
than the people not so motivated. The genes causing them to want to
have more babies will increase in frequency in the gene pool.

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[agi] Benevolence - a Material Philosophy of Goodness

2007-06-20 Thread Stefan Pernar

Dear list,

Attached please find a paper I wrote for submission to the upcoming AGI
conference in Memphis, TN next year. On 7 pages it summarizes my thoughts on
benevolence that I have worked on putting in book form over the past year
and a bit and concludes with proposing a super goal for an upcoming self
improving AGI.

I would appreciate getting your feedback on my thoughts and any suggestions
for improving the paper and thus increasing its chances of getting accepted
for the conference.

The 50'000 word novel the paper's core concepts are based on, is currently
in the process of being edited and I plan to publish it before the end of
July. Location for free download will be communicated here on the list.

Many thanks,

Stefan
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No. 19 Jiang Tai Xi Lu
100016 Beijing
China
Mobil: +86 1391 009 1931
Skype: Stefan.Pernar

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Re: [agi] Pure reason is a disease.

2007-06-20 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)

On 6/19/07, Eric Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The modern feature is that whole peoples have chosen to reproduce at
half replacement level. In case you haven't thought about the
implications of that, that means their genes, for example, are
vanishing from the pool by a factor of 2 every 20 years or so.
Won't take long before they are gone.
I don't doubt there is a good element of
K-strategy in human makeup, but evidently
the K-strategy programming is a bit out of whack.

I expect this was caused by our mental programming advancing much
faster, at the cultural, meme, etc level, in the presence of
language and printing presses etc, than  evolution of the
genome could keep up with.
My guess is evolution will catch up and correct this in a
generation or two, but in the meantime it is going to have
substantial demographic effects.


"Evolution of the genome will catch up" is a very curious notion.  Can you
elaborate on this?

YKY

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