[agi] Seeking student programmers for summer 2008: OpenCog meets Google Summer of Code
Hi all, Sorry for the short notice, but I was out of town last week with limited email access... The Singularity Institute for AI was accepted as a mentoring organization for Google's 2008 Summer of Code project, with a focus on the OpenCog open-source AGI project (www.opencog.org). See http://code.google.com/soc/2008/siai/about.html What this means is that programmers who want to spend Summer 2008 working on open-source AI code within the OpenCog framework, and get paid $5000 by Google for this, can submit proposals for OpenCog projects, within the GSOC website. Student programmers have the interval btw March 24 and March 31 to submit proposals, then accepted proposals will be announced on the GSOC website on April 11. If you have a particular proposal idea you'd like to discuss, best option is to post it on the OpenCog Google Group mailing list (find info on opencog.org). Some proposal ideas are found here http://opencog.org/wiki/Ideas but we're quite open to other suggestions as well, in the freewheeling spirit of GSOC... Thanks Ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=98558129-0bdb63 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
Re: [agi] Question about Macintosh developers
Thanks Richard. That rules me out - because I am a scratch beginner at Object C. As an ex-Microsoft consultant, C# is my strength - but I've come to love Python for its conciseness, power, and simplicity - a rare mix. I'm also favoring the transition to Mac OS X (tired of Windows) ... so maybe in a couple of years, I can claim I'm proficient in Cocoa/Object C :-) Still - I'm glad to help clarify what your looking for. BRgds, ~Aki On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aki Iskandar wrote: Hi Richard - Just to help frame the question ... What technology? Specifically Cocoa / Object C ? (which are mostly native to Mac OS X) ... or any of Java, Python, Ruby, etc.Cocoa has bindings that can be used by Java developers - but is a lot clumsier than developing in Object C. Thanks, ~Aki Yes, Cocoa/Obj C is important because of the general power of the development environment - I am not keen on the other language bindings. In addition to all this, they have Core Animation. With regard to the other question that Jey Kottalam asked, I am not thinking about the cross-platform toolkits at the moment because other platforms are not an issue. Reducing the complexity of the programming task, on the other hand, is very important ;-). Richard Loosemore. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question for the AGI readership: is there anyone (lurker or otherwise) who is doing AI or cog sci stuff and is also a proficient Mac developer? I'll take any answers offlist. Richard Loosemore --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?; http://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Aki R. Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *agi* | Archives http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modify http://www.listbox.com/member/?; Your Subscription [Powered by Listbox] http://www.listbox.com --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Aki R. Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=98558129-0bdb63 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
[agi] The Effect of Application of an Idea
Jim,
You are absolutely correct. Try the following logical definition/meme-map
where all links are tautologies (and therefore transitive)
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Intelligent -- Friendly -- Ethical -- {Core of all
religions}--{Any current religion minus irrational, unethical , stupidities}
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Rational--Self-Interest {Play Well With Others)--Love
The meme itself is a successful implementation of Seed Friendliness (and
Intelligence) if successfully implanted.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Bromer
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: **SPAM** [agi] The Effect of Application of an Idea
I want to quickly mention an idea I had a few years ago. New knowledge can
be thought of as data stored somewhere in some kind of database, but it also
has a greater potential of effect when it used intelligently. New knowledge is
not just a dull object of information to be stored, because it has a potential
to be far reaching when it is used. It even has the potential to change the
course of ones thinking.
Knowledge is varied, and the usefulness, adequacy and accuracy will not be
the same for each piece of information. Some information will constitute a
meaningful idea and some will only constitute a fragment of an idea. Knowledge
constitutes understanding only when it is combined with more knowledge that is
relevant to it and can be used effectively to integrate it into a greater sense
of the subject matter. So even though a piece of knowledge may be recognized
as meaningful, that meaning exists because it can be related to many other
kinds of knowledge.
Knowledge is not just a piece of information that lies dully on a dusty
shelf, so to speak, it has the potential to dynamically relate to other kinds
of knowledge. In my view of advanced AI, knowledge has to play different
computational roles with other kinds of knowledge.
A few years ago, I realized that different kinds of knowledge can have a
varied range of effect when it is applied to other knowledge. Let's say that I
want to store the information that parts x1332-b and z733-c are somehow related
into a database record. If no other kind of information has been stored about
those parts, or if no relations with other relevant information has been
programmed into the database, then that information will exist only as a rather
dull fragment of information that is unrelated to any other information. And
the vast majority of people who will read this will quickly forget that parts
x1332-b and z733-c are somehow related just because it holds so little meaning
for them. On the other hand, if I convince you that you should be a little
more open minded, you might take that thought and apply it to a wide variety of
situations. The difference is that a persuasive argument to change the way you
think about things in general can potentially have a greater effect of
application than a piece of information concerning some trivial fact that is
has little meaning to you.
One of the great things about this theory of the effect of application is
that it can be modeled in a simple closed artificial system and studied, but it
can also subsequently be used in an extension of the system. It is in effect,
a foundation of conceptual integration, and by recognizing the significance of
the theory, I believe that some important new areas of research may be
discovered. The theory can help advanced students imaginatively discover how
ideas can play different roles with other ideas and help them to see beyond the
narrow application of fundamental primitives that dominate (and, in my opinion,
often disable) current research into AGI.
Although the theory can be used as a fundamental primitive in simple
experiments, it can also be used in the definition of extensive conceptual
systems as well. It's beauty that it is not just a fundamental piece of
knowledge; it is also a principle in a theory of conceptualization. Ideas have
effects on other ideas.
Jim Bromer
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