Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7869-7871

[V.J Rada]

PRESENT on the first, FOR the other ones.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Alex Smith  wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 23:12 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> ID  Author(s) AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
> I vote as follows:
>> 7869*   babelian  2.0  Agoraculture v. 2.0 babelian10 sh.
> AGAINST. I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea but this needs much
> more development before passing it (plus likely attention from someone
> skilled in understanding how Agoran rules and precedents affect how
> it's possible to interfere with proposal voting). It may be that we
> need a framework for screwing-with-votes that's more complex and
> general than the current one.
>> 7870*   V.J Rada  2.0  Cards are appealable 2.0V.J Rada10 sh.
> AGAINST; criminialising dependent action intents makes me really uneasy
> (given that intents aren't actually actions, and are often required to
> keep a player's options open; in some past rulesets, we've required
> almost every statement to the public fora to be truthful, with the
> exception of dependent action intents)
>> 7871*   V.J Rada  3.0  Minor fixes (sans typos)V.J Rada10 sh.
> FOR, very much so
>
> --
> ais523



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>From V.J Rada

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7869-7871

[Aris Merchant]

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> quorum is 2.0 and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is
> also a valid vote).
>

I vote as follows. [I don't usually vote right away, both because I
want to see what others think and to appear non-partisan in my
official duties. Still, these are all pretty clear.]

> ID  Author(s) AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
> ---
> 7869*   babelian  2.0  Agoraculture v. 2.0 babelian10 sh.
AGAINST. This proposal is seriously flawed and ambiguous, as outlined
here [1]. I'm also a tad annoyed I didn't get a response, but the
author is a new player, and deserves some leeway.

> 7870*   V.J Rada  2.0  Cards are appealable 2.0V.J Rada10 sh.
FOR. Perfectly sensible reform to make it so that people don't get
punished for thing they didn't do.

> 7871*   V.J Rada  3.0  Minor fixes (sans typos)V.J Rada10 sh.
FOR. These are all needed fixes.

[1] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-discussion@agoranomic.org/msg37147.html

-Aris