BUS: [Notice of Honour]
This is a Notice of Honour: +1 Aris (doing a hard job that I made harder) -1 nch (obliviousness) -- nch
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.3
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:50:27 PM CDT you wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:42 PM nch via agora-business > > wrote: > > Ok, here's 1.3. > > > > I cut out auctions completely because there are two proposals right now to > > fix them and I'd rather that dust settled first. I have a separate > > proposal, based on Trigon's transmutation idea, coming later tonight. > > That both adds a way to get Victory Points and helps us balance any card > > types that might end up scarce. > > > > I also reworked pending, based on G's comments. Now proposals go straight > > into the pool like they always did. There's a separate rule that adds a > > Pend switch for them, and distribution requires proposals to have > > Pend=True. The net effect is less direct changes to important rules, and > > honestly a more intuitive system. > > *groans* > > Back to non-empty proposal pool reports I see. *sigh* > > I may propose changing this at some point so that I only have to > report pending proposals, but that's the sort of thing that can be > dealt with later. > > -Aris Sorry Aris. On the plus side PSS did just point out a good tiny adjustment. I withdraw Sets v1.3 and pledge not to submit any proposals until after the next distribution. -- nch
BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.3
Ok, here's 1.3.
I cut out auctions completely because there are two proposals right now to fix
them and I'd rather that dust settled first. I have a separate proposal, based
on Trigon's transmutation idea, coming later tonight. That both adds a way to
get Victory Points and helps us balance any card types that might end up
scarce.
I also reworked pending, based on G's comments. Now proposals go straight into
the pool like they always did. There's a separate rule that adds a Pend switch
for them, and distribution requires proposals to have Pend=True. The net effect
is less direct changes to important rules, and honestly a more intuitive
system.
The other changes are mostly tiny. As before you can see the difference between
this and 1.2 on github ( https://github.com/nichdel/AgoranProposal/compare/
ce8b1458178fa420b0b94564791288aac6889fdb...c6d7f79ce39a88d97e491f62204e3ee2e6ac649c
)
I submit the following proposal:
{
Title: Sets v1.3
Author: nch
Co-Authors: Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason, Aris, G.,
AI: 3
Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "Cards & Sets" with the text:
Cards are a type of currency with a corresponding Product. Products are
also currencies. The types of Cards and their corresponding Products
are:
* Victory Cards and Victory Points.
* Justice Cards and Blot-B-Gones
* Legislative Cards and Pendants
* Voting Cards and Extra Votes
A player CAN pay a 'set' of X Cards of the same type to earn Y
corresponding Products. The value of X determines the value of Y in the
following ways:
* 1 Card = 1 Product
* 2 Cards = 3 Products
* 3 Cards = 6 Products
* 4 Cards = 10 Products
A player CANNOT pay more than 4 Cards as one 'set'.
Cards and Products are tracked by the Treasuror.
For each player that is not a zombie, grant em 1 card of each type.
[The core of this proposal. Collect cards to make the other assets.]
Amend rule 2499 "Welcome Packages" by replacing:
When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins.
with:
When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins and one of
each type of Card defined in the rules.
[Simple Welcome package addition]
Amend rule 2483 "Economics" by removing the following line:
A player CAN win the game by paying a fee of 1,000 Coins.
[Ultimately counter to an economy where we want constant trading and asset
movement.]
Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "VP Wins" with the following text:
If a player has at least 20 more Victory Points than any other player, e
CAN win by announcement. When a player wins this way, all Cards and all
Products are destroyed. Then each non-zombie player is granted 1 card of
each type.
[Exactly what it says on the tin.]
Amend rule 2555 "Blots" by replacing the following paragraph:
If a person (the penitent) has neither gained blots nor had more
than 2 blots expunged from emself in the current Agoran week, then
any player (the confessor) who has not, by this mechanism,
expunged any blots in the current Agoran week CAN expunge 1 blot
from the penitent, by announcement.
with:
Any player CAN expunge a blot from a specified person (or emself if no
one is specified) by paying a fee of one Blot-B-Gone.
[Pretty straightforward, now you need to use Blot-B-Gones to get rid of Blots
(except for the fugitive decay, I left that in).]
Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing:
Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. Once a proposal
is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned
attributes can be changed. The author (syn. proposer) of a
proposal is the person who submitted it.
with:
Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. Once a proposal
is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned
attributes can be changed except as described in the rules. The author
(syn. proposer) of a proposal is the person who submitted it.
[I moved all the pending stuff out of here, but still modified the language
to allow the co-author mechanic.]
Create a new Power=1 rule titled "Pending Proposals" with the following text:
Pended is a proposal switch tracked by the Promotor with possible values
True or False and default value False. Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to
flip the Pended switch of a specified proposal to True. If the player did
not create the proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of
the proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors.
The Promotor CAN, once a week and with 2 support, flip the Pended switch
of a proposal in the Proposal Pool to True. E SHOULD NOT do so if the
author of the proposal has at least one Pendant or Legislative Card.
A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.
[Basically pending is a separate mechanic from the Pool, so that
Re: BUS: May Auction Ratification
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:17 AM James Cook via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Ratifying that the May auction happened as expected benefits the three
> winners in the auction (including me), so it's understandable if
> someone objects to the below.
>
> I intend, without objection, to ratify the following document.
>
> {
>
> This document was true on May 7, 2020 at 16:24 UTC.
>
> The most recently initiated zombie auction never ended and is still in
> progress. In particular, the resale values of ATMunn, Tcbapo and pikhq
> are still equal to what they were just before the auction was
> initiated, and all purported bids on that auction that would have been
> successful if the auction were in progress were indeed submitted.
>
> }
>
> (Note: at least two (attempted) bids were placed before 16:24 UTC on
> May 7, so making a change at that point in time should be enough to
> stop the auto-termination bug.)
>
> - Falsifian
>
I object
--
>From R. Lee
BUS: High Crimes and Treason
I submit the following proposal: Title: High Crimes and Treason AI: 1.7 Author: P.S.S. Coauthors: G., Jason, Murphy Amend Rule 2478 by appending the following text to the end of the rule: A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or greater. The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of Justice to punish a high crime, notwithstanding Rule 2478. Amend Rule 2478 by amending the list to read in full: - Imposing the Cold Hand of Justice on the perp for the cited rule violation, as described elsewhere; - Issuing an Indictment against the perp for the cited rule violation, as described elsewhere; or - if e believes that no rules violation occurred or that it would be ILLEGAL or INEFFECTIVE to levy a fine for it, announcing the Finger Pointing to be Shenanigans. Create a new AI-1.7 rule, "Indictment", with the following text: When the rules authorize an investigator to issue an Indictment for a violation, e CAN do so by announcement, specifying a fine of blots to be issued and the perpetrator and making an argument for the conviction of the accused. When an investigator has issued an Indictment, the perpetrator CAN state a defence. Within 10 days but no less than 4 days after the indictment has been issued, the judge SHALL initiate two Agoran Decisions, one to determine whether to convict the perpetrator and one to determine whether to accept the indictment. For these decision, the vote collector is the Judge and the voting method is AI-majority with AI=1.5. When initiating the decisions, the Judge SHALL, in the same message, publish the full texts of the Indictment and the defence. If both decisions are resolved as ADOPTED, the investigator CAN and SHALL impose the fine stated in the indictment. If the decision to convict is resolved as ADOPTED but the decision to accept is resolved as REJECTED, the investigator CAN issue a new Indictment. If the decision to convict is resolved as REJECTED, a fine SHALL NOT be imposed for the crime stated in the indictment. The Judge of the Indictment is the first of the following players who is neither the investigator nor the perp: the Arbitor, the Speaker, the Prime Minister. If this still fails to specify a player, then the Indictment lacks a Judge until that changes. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Promises
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:04 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > -Aris I retract this proposal. I submit the following proposal. [Forgot to add Falsifian as a coauthor.] -Aris --- Title: Promises Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Falsifian Enact a new power 2.2 rule, entitled "Promises", with the following text: Promises are a class of assets, tracked by the Notary. Their essential attributes are their text and creator. A person CAN, by announcement, acting as emself, grant emself a promise, specifying its text and becoming its creator. A promise's owner is referred to as its bearer. Promises with the same text, creator, and bearer are fungible. Promises with the same text and creator SHOULD be referred to by the same title, but the title is not an essential attribute of the promise, just a way of referring to it. A promise's bearer CAN, by announcement, cash the promise, provided that any conditions for cashing it specified by its text are unambiguously met. By doing so, e acts on the creator of the promise's behalf, causing the creator to act as if e published the promise's text, and destroys the promise. The bearer SHOULD recite the promise's essential attributes in the same message e cashes it. In a promise's text, "the bearer" (or the like) refers to the promise's bearer, and "this promise" (or the like) refers to the promise. The text of the promise can refer to the context of the message in which it is cashed, but the context of the message does not otherwise change the meaning of the promise. The Library is an entity and CAN own promises. Any player CAN take a specified promise from the Library by announcement, provided e cashes the promise in the same message. Any player CAN revoke a specified promise from the Library without objection. Amend Rule 2608, "The Notary", by changing the numbered list to read as follows: 1. every pledge, along with its title, creator, time window, time of creation, and time of expiry; 2. every contract, with its title, full provisions, and parties; and 3. every promise, along with its title, text, creator, and bearer. Amend Rule 2466, "Acting on Behalf", by changing the text "A person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to do anything except perform a game action; in particular, a person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to send a message, only to perform specific actions that might be taken within a message." to read "A person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to do anything except perform a game action; in particular, a person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to send a message, only to perform specific actions that might be taken within a message, including actions that would otherwise be taken by publishing certain text." Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", by changing it to read in full: A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if, at the time the action took place: 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated that e agrees to the action and not subsequently publicly withdrawn eir statement; 2. e is party to a contract whose body explicitly and unambiguously indicates eir consent; 3. the action is taken as part of a promise which e created; or 4. it is reasonably clear from context that e wanted the action to take place or assented to it taking place.
BUS: [Proposal] Promises
I submit the following proposal. -Aris --- Title: Promises Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Enact a new power 2.2 rule, entitled "Promises", with the following text: Promises are a class of assets, tracked by the Notary. Their essential attributes are their text and creator. A person CAN, by announcement, acting as emself, grant emself a promise, specifying its text and becoming its creator. A promise's owner is referred to as its bearer. Promises with the same text, creator, and bearer are fungible. Promises with the same text and creator SHOULD be referred to by the same title, but the title is not an essential attribute of the promise, just a way of referring to it. A promise's bearer CAN, by announcement, cash the promise, provided that any conditions for cashing it specified by its text are unambiguously met. By doing so, e acts on the creator of the promise's behalf, causing the creator to act as if e published the promise's text, and destroys the promise. The bearer SHOULD recite the promise's essential attributes in the same message e cashes it. In a promise's text, "the bearer" (or the like) refers to the promise's bearer, and "this promise" (or the like) refers to the promise. The text of the promise can refer to the context of the message in which it is cashed, but the context of the message does not otherwise change the meaning of the promise. The Library is an entity and CAN own promises. Any player CAN take a specified promise from the Library by announcement, provided e cashes the promise in the same message. Any player CAN revoke a specified promise from the Library without objection. Amend Rule 2608, "The Notary", by changing the numbered list to read as follows: 1. every pledge, along with its title, creator, time window, time of creation, and time of expiry; 2. every contract, with its title, full provisions, and parties; and 3. every promise, along with its title, text, creator, and bearer. Amend Rule 2466, "Acting on Behalf", by changing the text "A person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to do anything except perform a game action; in particular, a person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to send a message, only to perform specific actions that might be taken within a message." to read "A person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to do anything except perform a game action; in particular, a person CANNOT act on behalf of another person to send a message, only to perform specific actions that might be taken within a message, including actions that would otherwise be taken by publishing certain text." Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", by changing it to read in full: A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if, at the time the action took place: 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated that e agrees to the action and not subsequently publicly withdrawn eir statement; 2. e is party to a contract whose body explicitly and unambiguously indicates eir consent; 3. the action is taken as part of a promise which e created; or 4. it is reasonably clear from context that e wanted the action to take place or assented to it taking place.
BUS: [Proposal] Backup Conservatism
I submit the following proposal. -Aris --- Title: Backup Conservatism Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): Murphy, nch, G. If the proposal "More conservative implicit announcements" has been enacted, or would be enacted if it were correctly resolved now, the remainder of this proposal has no effect. Enact a new power 1.0 rule, entitled "Default Action Mechanism" with the following text: Stating that a person "CAN and SHALL" perform an action, without stating a method, implies "by announcement".
BUS: [Dragon] Application of Shorter Voting Periods
I apply the Amendment Proposal "Shorter Voting Periods", which has the following text. --- Shorter Voting Periods Replace the second paragraph of Bylaw 2: Proposals with the following: If a Corporate Proposal was submitted more than 4 but fewer than 21 days ago, and the proposal has approval (as defined in other bylaws), and the proposal has not been applied, then any member may, by announcement, apply the proposal, which has effects as defined in other bylaws. If Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping contains an unordered list, add as a new item at the end of that list the following: - Agoran decisions to select its holder have a voting period of 4 days --- The new text of the contract follows. I intend, without objection, to ratify that the Dragon Corporation contract has the following text. -Aris --- ## Bylaw 1: Definition This contract is named "the Dragon Corporation". The purpose of the Dragon Corporation is to earn as much money as possible for its shareholders. All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract does not permit any entity to act on behalf of any other entity. Shares of Dragon stock (also known as "shares of DRGN", or, in this contract, "shares") are a currency whose purpose is to represent ownership of the Dragon Corporation. An entity which owns at least one share is known as a shareholder. If, at any time, the Dragon Corporation or the Lost and Found Department owns any shares, then those shares are destroyed. Any person CAN, by announcement, become a party to this contract or cease to be a party to this contract. A shareholder who is a party to this contract is known as a member. Wherever this contract states that an entity becomes a party to this contract or ceases to be a party to this contract, all parties to this contract are considered to consent to this change. ## Bylaw 2: Proposals Any member CAN, by announcement, submit a Corporate Proposal. A Corporate Proposal must have exactly one of the types defined by this contract. Thereafter, any member CAN vote FOR or AGAINST that proposal by announcement, or retract such a vote, which causes the vote to become null and void. Whenever a member votes, all of eir previous votes on the same proposal are implicitly retracted. If a Corporate Proposal was submitted more than 4 but fewer than 21 days ago, and the proposal has approval (as defined in other bylaws), and the proposal has not been applied, then any member may, by announcement, apply the proposal, which has effects as defined in other bylaws. Members SHALL NOT submit, vote for, or apply proposals that are egregiously unfair to other shareholders (such as a proposal which takes or revokes shares from minority shareholders without just compensation). ## Bylaw 3: Amendment Proposals An Amendment Proposal is a type of Corporate Proposal. An Amendment Proposal has approval if at least one member has voted FOR it, and the number of shares owned by members who have voted FOR it is at least 2 times the number of shares owned by members who have voted AGAINST it. When an Amendment Proposal is applied, the following occur: 1. Each party to this contract who has not consented to the application of the proposal ceases to be a party to this contract. A party who has voted FOR a proposal consents to the application of that proposal, unless e has publicly stated otherwise at or after the time at which e voted FOR it. 2. This contract is modified as described in the proposal. However, the application of an Amendment Proposal is INEFFECTIVE unless, in the same message, the entity who applies the proposal also publishes a text which is labeled as being the text of this contract after the application. E SHOULD, at that point, publish intent to ratify that text without objection. ## Bylaw 4: Ordinary Proposals An Ordinary Proposal is a type of Corporate Proposal. An Ordinary Proposal has approval if the number of shares owned by members voting FOR it is greater than the number of shares owned by members voting AGAINST it. When an Ordinary Proposal is applied, assets are created, destroyed, and/or transferred as described in the proposal; and entities may create, destroy, and/or transfer assets as permitted in the proposal. Such permission expires 30 days after the proposal is applied. After an Ordinary Proposal is applied, the person who applied it SHOULD publish a description of its effects in a timely fashion, including all balances of assets defined by this contract which were affected by the proposal. ## Bylaw 5: Bonds and Banknotes Perpetual Dragon bonds (hereinafter "bonds") are a currency. Banknotes are a currency. At the beginning of each Agoran quarter, each entity is awarded a number of banknotes equal to the number of bonds that e owns. If an entity owns a banknote, e CAN redeem the banknote by transferring 1 coin from the Dragon Corporation to emself; the banknote is then destroyed. ## Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping If a party to this contract
BUS: [Proposal] Defense Against the Dark Arts
I submit the following proposal. -Aris --- Title: Defense Against the Dark Arts Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: P.S.S. Enact a new power 1.0 rule entitled "Defense Against the Dark Arts" with the following text: A proposal is forbidden if it would, upon successfully taking effect, cause Agora to be ossified or to cease to exist. An action is forbidden if it would, upon its successful occurrence, cause Agora to be ossified or to cease to exist. Attempting a forbidden action is PROHIBITED, and is the Class-4 Crime of Engaging in Forbidden Arts. Submitting a forbidden proposal is PROHIBITED, and is the Class-1 Crime of Contemplating Forbidden Arts. Being the author of an adopted forbidden proposal is PROHIBITED, and is the Class-2 Crime of Suborning Forbidden Arts. Having a final ballot that evaluates to FOR in the Agoran decision on whether to adopt a forbidden proposal is PROHIBITED, and is the Class-1 Crime of Abetting Forbidden Arts.
BUS: [attn Promotor] 1698 shortening
I submit the following proposal: -- Title: 1698 shortening AI: 4 Author: Trigon Coauthors: [ Comment: I'm not sure if it's intentional for "proposals" and "other changes to the gamestate" to be separate and have the same clause following them, but, assuming there's not, it couldn't hurt to cut down a bit on the repeated text. ] Replace the following paragraph in Rule 1698 "Agora is a Nomic": If, but for this rule, the net effect of a proposal would cause Agora to become ossified, or would cause Agora to cease to exist, it cannot take effect, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. If any other single change or inseparable group of changes to the gamestate would cause Agora to become ossified, or would cause Agora to cease to exist, it is cancelled and does not occur, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. with: If, but for this rule, the net effect of a single change or inseparable group of changes to the gamestate, including proposals, would cause Agora to become ossified, or would cause Agora to cease to exist, it cannot take effect, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. -- Trigon
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory
> Zombie master and resale value switches (self-ratifying) > > Resale Last ownedDue to flip > Zombie Master valueby Agora to Agora > -- -- --- --- --- > twgAgora 2now > ATMunn Jason 1now > Tcbapo Falsifian 1now > pikhq G. 0now I intend, with notice, to deregister pikhq. (This is part of the fallout of the May auction being broken.) - Falsifian
BUS: May Auction Ratification
Ratifying that the May auction happened as expected benefits the three
winners in the auction (including me), so it's understandable if
someone objects to the below.
I intend, without objection, to ratify the following document.
{
This document was true on May 7, 2020 at 16:24 UTC.
The most recently initiated zombie auction never ended and is still in
progress. In particular, the resale values of ATMunn, Tcbapo and pikhq
are still equal to what they were just before the auction was
initiated, and all purported bids on that auction that would have been
successful if the auction were in progress were indeed submitted.
}
(Note: at least two (attempted) bids were placed before 16:24 UTC on
May 7, so making a change at that point in time should be enough to
stop the auto-termination bug.)
- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory (revised)
On Monday, May 18, 2020 3:44:47 PM CDT James Cook via agora-official wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 02:50, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > wrote: > > On 5/16/20 10:48 PM, James Cook via agora-official wrote: > > > pikhq Agora 02020-05-14 22:28 2020-08-12 22:28 > > > > CoE: I believe pikhq's master is G. > > Oops, that's embarrassing. Thanks. > > I respond to the above CoE by publishing the below revised report. (For clarity the quote above is from the Agoran Directory published on 5/18, not the one published today.) CoE: pikhq's master switch is Agora. (This will ratify tomorrow and make the Directory published today false if this is not CoE'd, I think.) -- nch
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 498
CoE on the below report: On May 17, I did not pay Agora and Tcbapo did not pay me, since the May zombie auction ended before any bids were placed. (I may try to ratify that the auction went smoothly, but let's not let this self-ratify before we've decided that.) - Falsifian On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 23:38, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote: > > On 5/17/20 5:26 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > > CoE: Winners of zombie auctions transferred their zombies' liquid assets > > to emselves. > > Accepted. Revision 1: > > > FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-EIGHT > or > TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT > > > Date of last official report: 10 May 2020 > Date of revision 0:17 May 2020 > Date of revision 1:17 May 2020 > > (all times and dates in UTC) > > > NOTES ON REPORT (section holds no data) > > > * Revision 1 fixes an issue where G., Jason, and Falsifian all >transferred all the liquid assets of their newly acquired zombies to >emselves. > > > ASSET INDEX (does not self-ratify) > > >--- - >Asset class Recordkeepor Ownership >=== = >Coins Treasuror Agora, players, contracts >Blots RefereePersons >--- - > > > COIN BALANCES(self-ratifies) > > >- - >Coins Active player >= = > 642 Aris > 105 Baron Von Vaderham (BVV) > 70 Cuddle Beam > 1249 D. Margaux >4 Falsifian > 48 Gaelan > 705 G. > 440 Jason > 199 Murphy > 271 omd > 75 Nch > 108 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (PSS) > 86 R. Lee > 25 sukil > 10 Telnaior > 40 Trigon >- - >Coins Zombie >= = > 202 twg >- - >Coins Non-player entity >= = > 1976 Agora > 225 Dragon Corporation (Dragon Corp.) > 510 Lost and Found Department (LFD) >- - > > All other entities have 0 coins. > > > RECENT HISTORY(does not self-ratify) > > > Abbreviations used: > > --- >Abbr Office > === >ADoP Associate Director of Personnel >Abtr Arbitor >Assr Assessor >Cptr Comptrollor >Dstr Distributor >Hrld Herald >Ntry Notary >PM Prime Minister >Pmtr Promotor >Rfee Referee >Rstr Registrar >Rkpr Rulekeepor >Spkr Speaker >Tlor Tailor >Tsor Treasuror > --- > > --- - --- > Entity ChangeTimestamp Reason > === = === > Dragon Corp. + 180c. 17 May 2020 03:45 Xfer Falsifian (Buy shares) > Falsifian - 180c. 17 May 2020 03:45 Xfer Dragon Corp. (Shares) > Falsifian + 37c. 17 May 2020 02:54 Xfer Tcbapo > Tcbapo - 37c. 17 May 2020 02:54 Xfer Falsifian > Agora + 72c. 17 May 2020 02:54 Xfer Falsifian (Zombie) > Falsifian - 72c. 17 May 2020 02:54 Xfer Agora (Zombie auction) > Jason + 50c. 17 May 2020 02:52 Xfer ATMunn > ATMunn - 50c. 17 May 2020 02:52 Xfer Jason > Agora + 80c. 17 May 2020 02:51 Xfer Jason (Zombie auction > Jason - 80c. 17 May 2020 02:51 Xfer Agora (Zombie auction) > G. + 65c. 14 May 2020 22:25 Xfer pikhq > pikhq - 65c. 14 May 2020 22:25 Xfer G. > Agora + 103c. 14 May 2020 22:25 Xfer G. (Zombie auction) > G. - 103c. 14 May 2020 22:25 Xfer Agora (Zombie auction) > Dragon Corp. + 20c. 14 May 2020 21:15 Xfer Aris (Buying shares) > Aris - 20c. 14 May 2020 21:15 Xfer Dragon Corp. (Shares) > Trigon + 10c. 13 May 2020 21:42 Reward (CFJ 3832) x2 > [ L
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Cantus Counterscam
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 12:47 PM James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 15:40, grok (caleb vines) via agora-business
> wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal:
> >
> > {
> >
> > Title: Cantus Counterscam
> > Author: grok
> > Co-Author: nch
> > AI: 3
> >
> > Modify Rule 1789/11 "Cantus Cygneus" by inserting the following
> > paragraph at the end:
> >
> > "A person deregistered by Cantus Cygneus CANNOT register or be
> > registered for 30 days after the Registrar posts eir Writ of FAGE."
> >
> > }
>
> I'm reminded of this appeal from ais523 from the previous Write of
> FAGE, shortly before I joined:
>
> > On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 01:58 +1100, Telnaior wrote:
> > > Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister
> > > by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could
> > > come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets
> > > me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually
> > > bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)
> >
> > Please nobody ever close this loophole. It only gets used once every
> > few years and the results always seem to be hilarious.
> >
> > --
> > ais523
>
>
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-January/053037.html
>
> - Falsifian
>
I withdraw the proposal "Cantus Counterscam"
>
BUS: Re: [Registrar] Agoran Directory (revised)
CoE on the below (revised) report: pikhq is owned by Agora since the zombie auction terminated before any bids were placed. (I'm considering trying to ratify that the auction worked, but let's be deliberate about it.) - Falsifian On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 20:44, James Cook wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 02:50, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > > On 5/16/20 10:48 PM, James Cook via agora-official wrote: > > > pikhq Agora 02020-05-14 22:28 2020-08-12 22:28 > > > > > > CoE: I believe pikhq's master is G. > > Oops, that's embarrassing. Thanks. > > I respond to the above CoE by publishing the below revised report. > > > > The Agoran Directory > > > This is a revision of the 2020-05-17 Registrar weekly report. It > describes the state of the game at the time the original report was > published, which is 2020-05-17 at 02:48 UTC. > > Date of last report: 2020-05-07 (Thu) > Date of this report: 2020-05-17 (Sun) > (all times UTC) > > Archive of reports on the web: https://agoranomic.org/Registrar/Reports/ > > Recent Events (recent events section not ratifying) > > 28-Feb-20 02:09 R. Lee registers. > 01-Mar-20 06:15 R. Lee deregistered (minimal gamestate modification due > to self-ratification of Registrar report) > 01-Mar-20 14:34 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus registers. > 16-Mar-20 04:55 R. Lee registers. > 21-Mar-20 01:44 Telnaior registers. > 29-Mar-20 00:30 Falsifian flips D. Margaux's master switch to Agora. > 29-Mar-20 00:30 Falsifian flips Baron v V [0]'s master switch to Agora > 29-Mar-20 00:30 Falsifian flips pikhq's master switch to Agora. > 01-Apr-20 21:12 G. flips o's master switch to Agora. > 01-Apr-20 22:27 D. Margaux flips eir master switch to emself. > 02-Apr-20 03:09 Trigon flips eir master switch to emself. > 02-Apr-20 23:01 Baron v V [0] flips eir master switch to emself. > 09-Apr-20 07:54 nch is an excess lot: resale value decreased. > 09-Apr-20 07:54 pikhq is an excess lot: resale value decreased. > 09-Apr-20 07:54 Walker is an excess lot: resale value decreased. > 09-Apr-20 07:54 ATMunn is an excess lot: resale value decreased. > 09-Apr-20 07:58 Falsifian deregisters o with notice. > 17-Apr-20 10:22 Falsifian deregisters Walker with notice. > 23-Apr-20 02:04 Warrigal is deregistered in a Writ of FAGE. > 23-Apr-20 02:13 Falsifian flips Bernie's master switch to Agora. > 23-Apr-20 02:13 Falsifian flips Rance's master switch to Agora. > 23-Apr-20 02:13 Falsifian deregisters Bernie with notice. > 23-Apr-20 02:13 Falsifian deregisters Rance with notice. > 03-May-20 20:23 Alexis deregisters. > 04-May-20 01:44 nch flips eir master switch to emself. > 07-May-20 00:43 Falsifian flips Tcbapo's master switch to Agora. > (time of last report) > 13-May-20 02:45 Falsifian flips twg's master switch to Agora. > 14-May-20 22:28 Agora flips pikhq's master switch to G.. > > Players (by Rule 869, Persons with 'Registered' Citizenship): > > There are 20 Players. > > Player Contact Registered > -- --- -- > *omdcomexk at gmail.com [1] 03 Feb 11 > Aris thoughtsoflifeandlight17 at gmail.com 13 Sep 16 > *Gaelan gbs at canishe.com 15 May 17 > G. kerim at uw.edu 25 Aug 17 > Cuddle Beamcuddlebeam at gmail.com 25 Aug 17 > Trigon reuben.staley at gmail.com 24 Sep 17 > Murphy emurphy42 at zoho.com 17 Dec 17 > D. Margaux [2] dmargaux000 at gmail.com25 Aug 18 > Baron von Vaderham davidseeber at outlook.com 04 Feb 19 > Falsifian jcook at cs.berkeley.edu13 Feb 19 > Jason jason.e.cobb at gmail.com 02 Jun 19 > nchnchagora at protonmail.com 18 Oct 19 > *sukil sukiletxe+agora at gmail.com12 Feb 20 > P.S.S. [3] p.scribonius.scholasticus at gmail.com 01 Mar 20 > R. Lee edwardostrange at gmail.com 16 Mar 20 > *Telnaior JDGA at iinet.net.au21 Mar 20 > z*ATMunn iamingodsarmy at gmail.com 11 Mar 18 > z*twgme at timon.red 24 May 18 > z*pikhq agora at ada.pikhq.com 20 Oct 19 > z*Tcbapo tcbapoagora at gmail.com28 Jan 20 > > z=zombie > *=no public messages since the start of 2020-04; see below for date > > > Date of last public message, for players who have not sent one since the start > of 2019-12 (not self-ratifying): > > Player Date > -
Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 11:10, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > To the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel and the Agoran > Public, the Honorable Herald replies thusly: > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has responded in > a timely manner to the petition from the Honorable Herald; > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel recommends many > candidates for the Long Service Awards; > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has certified > that these candidates have effectively and fully executed the duties > of their offices for the durations recommended; and > > WHEREAS the Honorable Herald is empowered to award these awards with > Agoran Consent; > > LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran > Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in > the class of "Three Months" for eir meritorious service as Rulekeepor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Nine Months" for eir meritorious service as > Assessor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Promotor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Registrar; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald thanks the Honorable > Associate Director of Personnel for eir response; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald petitions and > instructs the Right Honorable Speaker and the Right Honorable Prime > Minister to express their opinions on each of the above intents in > fulfillment of their ceremonial duties and in the spirit of Rule 2581. > > In WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the > Seal of the Office of the Herald to be affixed. > > At agora-official, this twenty-fourth day of May in the Year of our > Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Herald I support each of the above intents. - Falsifian
[Attn: Herald] Re: BUS: It hasn't been 1 million years yet
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 01:50, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I point my finger at R. Lee for the violation of the following pledge, > as described in the Notary's weekly report: > > > PLEDGE > > |/R. Lee Keeps Top-Posting R. Lee| /|/MADE: Mar 03 2020 01:21|WINDOW: > > *3|EXPIRES: *4|N: 2| > > / > > Sorry, I pledge for the time period of 1 million years to make no more > > than 5 breaches of the following rule. > > R. Lee shall append eir text at the bottom of the reply chain > > > > > Evidence: > > [0], [1], [2], [3], [4]. > > > [0]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042705.html > > [1]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042721.html > > [2]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042797.html > > [3]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042833.html > > [4]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042858.html > > -- > Jason Cobb Notice of Honour: +1 to Jason for doing the research (though I think e technically needed six) -1 to Falsifian (I think I'll try being my own default karma source for a while and see what happens) - Falsifian
Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
PSS wrote: LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Three Months" for eir meritorious service as Rulekeepor; I support. LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Nine Months" for eir meritorious service as Assessor; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as Promotor; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as Registrar; I support each of these, but also suggest attempting to award the lesser Patent Titles, again in keeping with past practice.
BUS: Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force
> I think the best direction in this regard would be to allow CFJs that > are not relevant to Agora directly, with some payment to compensate > the judge for their time. "Agora as a ruleset interpretation service", > if you like. So Agora would act entirely in a fact-finding role, not in > any sort of enforcement role. (The person who commissioned Agora to > come to a judgement could then do what they wanted with the resulting > judgement and its reasoning.) I suspect it's already possible to use Agora's CFJ system for questions not directly relevant to Agora, by entangling the statement with a relevant question. CFJ: Falsifian owns at least one blot if and only if English Wikipedia has an article titled "Sponge". Arguments: Wikipedia has an article titled "Sponge", so this comes down to whether Falsifian owns at least one blot. Blots affect voting power, so this CFJ is not IRRELEVANT. According to the last two Referee reports (the second-last has self-ratified), Falsifian owns no blots. E has not gained any since. So FALSE. Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponge (just now archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20200524164258/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponge ) >From the latest referee report: >BlotsActive player >-- > 1 G. > 2 Gaelan > 2 nch > 2 omd > 2 R. Lee > 2 twg > >BlotsZombie >--- > >No fugitives exist. >From the 2019-05-17 referee report: >BlotsActive player >-- > 1 G. > 2 Gaelan > 1 Murphy > 2 nch > 2 omd > 2 twg > >BlotsZombie >--- > >No fugitives exist. - Falsifian
Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
I support the above two intents too. - Bögtil Den sön 24 maj 2020 kl 16:42 skrev Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org>: > On 5/24/20 7:09 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > > Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service > > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > > Promotor; > > > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > > Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service > > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > > Registrar; > > > I support the above two intents. > > -- > Jason Cobb > >
Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
On 5/24/20 7:09 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Promotor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Registrar; I support the above two intents. -- Jason Cobb
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report
Thanks for catching that! I recalled seeing it once you mentioned it, but I apparently forgot to process it. Since this doesn't affect self-ratifying information, I'll just send the following revision to business: Herald's Weekly report Date of Last Report: 17 May 2020 Date of This Report: 24 May 2020 Karma Entity - -- +7 Jason <= SHOGUN - ABOVE +4 STAND THE SAMURAI +4 Aris +4 G. +3 twg +3 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus +2 omd +2 Trigon +2 Warrigal +1 Alexis -1 Bernie -1 o -1 Gaelan -1 R. Lee -2 ATMunn -2 Falsifian -2 Murphy -2 Rance -3 Agora -4 CuddleBeam -4 Baron von Vaderham - BELOW -4 LIE THE GAMMAS -5 D. Margaux <= HONOURLESS WORM - -- All other entities have 0 Karma. Notices of Honour (2 Years History): P.S.S. (24 May 2020) +1 Murphy (giving a timely and thorough response to my petition) -1 ATMunn (randomly selected karma source) Aris (18 May 2020) -1 Aris (being the beneficiary of an unjust karma transfer) +1 Trigon (delivering a perfectly good judgement) R. Lee (18 May 2020) +1 Aris (making a bug fix type of proposal that made the rule SHORTER rather than LONGER) -1 Trigon (stealing my win, im still salty) [New Week 18-May] [time of last report] [New Week 11-May] R. Lee (07 May 2020) +1 Falsifian (timely performance of registrar's duties) -1 Trigon (There are about six paragraphs of introduction to this judgement and just one of "analysis" The last paragraph of this judgement is exactly the sort of paragraph to be avoided because it's all waffle and no argument. "Far more convincing", "doesn't seem to indicate or even imply".) Nch (05 May 2020) +1 G. (furnished ample research material -1 D Margaux (rolled a d20, got a 9, chose 9th name on most recent Registrar's report) [New Week 4-May] Trigon (03 May 2020) +1 Jason (sorry for making you deal with all of this vote switchery) -1 G. (I think this reaction was wildly overblown) Alexis (03 May 2020) +1 R. Lee (for rejoining as an active participant) -1 G. (for putting a minor rule abuse ahead of fixing a broken historical record) G. (03 May 2020) +1 Jason (a person deserving of Shogun) -1 Alexis (for unnecessary reconsideration) Murphy (28 Apr 2020) +1 PSS (testing the finger-pointing rules in an interesting way) -1 ATMunn (randomly chosen zombie) Alexis (28 Apr 2020) +1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) -1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) [New Week 27-Apr] G. (25 Apr 2020) +1 PSS (catching up the treasury office) -1 twg (the departure) [New Week 20-Apr] Aris (14 Apr 2020) +1 Warrigal (introducing the amazing term "boo clause") -1 PSS (attempting to levy excessive fines) [New Week 13-Apr] Alexis (11 Apr 2020) +1 PSS (for eir careful investigation as Referee) -1 G. (for dismissing petitions as unimportant) R. Lee (09 Apr 2020) +1 Jason (rulekeeping is one of the hardest jobs (along with treasuror, which nobody is doing, therefore keeping the game mechanics in eternal stasis) -1 R. Lee (because lets be honest, i deserve to be honourless worm) G. (09 Apr 2020) +1 PSS (having to deal with the paperwork) -1 R. Lee (for attempting to launch fishing expeditions) Quartery Adjustment, April 01, 2020 Jacob Arduino: -1 -> 0 Agora: == -3 R. Lee (31 Mar 2020) +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) Alexis (31 Mar 2020) +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) [New Week 30-Mar] [New Week 23-Mar] Falsifian (21 Mar 2020) +1 Alexis (Helping the Registrar keep more accurate information) -1 Alexis (Punishing me for an error I could not have known about without spending unreasonable effort verifying the records I inherited from the previous Registrar. (I first joined Agora long after the event in question.)) Telnaior (21 Mar 2020) +1 Alexis (for catching something small but important that was missed in the history books) -1 Falsifian (for stuffing up the player list) G. (20 Mar 2020) +1 Jason (for losing a chance to judge a case older than emself) -1 Aris (for jumping onto an assigned case) R. Lee (16 Mar 2020) +1 Aris (because [e]'s epic) -1 Falsifian (for self ratifying that I am not a player, three times) Alexis (16 Mar 2020) +1 Aris (for having to wait so long for a peer review) -1 Alexis (for the delay) [New Week 16-Mar] Falsifian (15 Mar 2020) +1 G. (keeping things moving) -1 Falsifian (Ineffective Registrar) Jason (14 Mar 2020) +1 Murphy (seems like e should be higher than -4) -1 G. (down with the Shogun!) [New Week 09-Mar] G. (02 Mar 2020) +1 Gaelan (showing willingness to work with the geezers) -1 nch (sitting at +1 for no particula
Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:10 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > To the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel and the Agoran > Public, the Honorable Herald replies thusly: > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has responded in > a timely manner to the petition from the Honorable Herald; > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel recommends many > candidates for the Long Service Awards; > > WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has certified > that these candidates have effectively and fully executed the duties > of their offices for the durations recommended; and > > WHEREAS the Honorable Herald is empowered to award these awards with > Agoran Consent; > > LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran > Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in > the class of "Three Months" for eir meritorious service as Rulekeepor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Nine Months" for eir meritorious service as > Assessor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Promotor; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 > Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service > Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as > Registrar; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald thanks the Honorable > Associate Director of Personnel for eir response; > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald petitions and > instructs the Right Honorable Speaker and the Right Honorable Prime > Minister to express their opinions on each of the above intents in > fulfillment of their ceremonial duties and in the spirit of Rule 2581. > > In WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the > Seal of the Office of the Herald to be affixed. > > At agora-official, this twenty-fourth day of May in the Year of our > Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Herald > I support each itnent above -- >From R. Lee
BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report
Sorry, replace twg wit htrigon On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:45 PM Rebecca wrote: > COE You missed a notice of honour I published against twg and for aris, > and a notice aris published against me and for twg > > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:23 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-official wrote: > >> Herald's Weekly report >> >> Date of Last Report: 17 May 2020 >> Date of This Report: 24 May 2020 >> >> Karma Entity >> - -- >> >> +7 Jason <= SHOGUN >> >> - ABOVE +4 STAND THE SAMURAI >> >> +4 Aris >> +4 G. >> +3 twg >> +3 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> +2 omd >> +2 Trigon >> +2 Warrigal >> +1 Alexis >> -1 Bernie >> -1 o >> -1 Gaelan >> -1 R. Lee >> -2 ATMunn >> -2 Falsifian >> -2 Murphy >> -2 Rance >> -3 Agora >> -4 CuddleBeam >> -4 Baron von Vaderham >> >> - BELOW -4 LIE THE GAMMAS >> >> -5 D. Margaux <= HONOURLESS WORM >> >> - -- >> All other entities have 0 Karma. >> >> >> Notices of Honour (2 Years History): >> >> >> P.S.S. (24 May 2020) >> +1 Murphy (giving a timely and thorough response to my petition) >> -1 ATMunn (randomly selected karma source) >> >> [New Week 18-May] >> >> [time of last report] >> >> [New Week 11-May] >> >> R. Lee (07 May 2020) >> +1 Falsifian (timely performance of registrar's duties) >> -1 Trigon (There are about six paragraphs of introduction to this >> judgement >>and just one of "analysis" The last paragraph of this >> judgement is >>exactly the sort of paragraph to be avoided because it's all >> waffle >>and no argument. "Far more convincing", "doesn't seem to >> indicate or >>even imply".) >> >> Nch (05 May 2020) >> +1 G. (furnished ample research material >> -1 D Margaux (rolled a d20, got a 9, chose 9th name on most recent >> Registrar's report) >> >> [New Week 4-May] >> >> Trigon (03 May 2020) >> +1 Jason (sorry for making you deal with all of this vote switchery) >> -1 G. (I think this reaction was wildly overblown) >> >> Alexis (03 May 2020) >> +1 R. Lee (for rejoining as an active participant) >> -1 G. (for putting a minor rule abuse ahead of fixing a broken >>historical record) >> >> G. (03 May 2020) >> +1 Jason (a person deserving of Shogun) >> -1 Alexis (for unnecessary reconsideration) >> >> Murphy (28 Apr 2020) >> +1 PSS (testing the finger-pointing rules in an interesting way) >> -1 ATMunn (randomly chosen zombie) >> >> Alexis (28 Apr 2020) >> +1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) >> -1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) >> >> [New Week 27-Apr] >> >> G. (25 Apr 2020) >> +1 PSS (catching up the treasury office) >> -1 twg (the departure) >> >> [New Week 20-Apr] >> >> Aris (14 Apr 2020) >> +1 Warrigal (introducing the amazing term "boo clause") >> -1 PSS (attempting to levy excessive fines) >> >> [New Week 13-Apr] >> >> Alexis (11 Apr 2020) >> +1 PSS (for eir careful investigation as Referee) >> -1 G. (for dismissing petitions as unimportant) >> >> R. Lee (09 Apr 2020) >> +1 Jason (rulekeeping is one of the hardest jobs (along with treasuror, >> which nobody is doing, therefore keeping the game mechanics in >> eternal stasis) >> -1 R. Lee (because lets be honest, i deserve to be honourless worm) >> >> G. (09 Apr 2020) >> +1 PSS (having to deal with the paperwork) >> -1 R. Lee (for attempting to launch fishing expeditions) >> >> >> Quartery Adjustment, April 01, 2020 >> Jacob Arduino: -1 -> 0 >> Agora: == -3 >> >> R. Lee (31 Mar 2020) >> +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) >> -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) >> >> Alexis (31 Mar 2020) >> +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) >> -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) >> >> [New Week 30-Mar] >> >> [New Week 23-Mar] >> >> Falsifian (21 Mar 2020) >> +1 Alexis (Helping the Registrar keep more accurate information) >> -1 Alexis (Punishing me for an error I could not have known about >>without spending unreasonable effort verifying the records >>I inherited from the previous Registrar. (I first joined >>Agora long after the event in question.)) >> >> Telnaior (21 Mar 2020) >> +1 Alexis (for catching something small but important that was missed >>in the history books) >> -1 Falsifian (for stuffing up the player list) >> >> G. (20 Mar 2020) >> +1 Jason (for losing a chance to judge a case older than emself) >> -1 Aris (for jumping onto an assigned case) >> >> R. Lee (16 Mar 2020) >> +1 Aris (because [e]'s epic) >> -1 Falsifian (for self ratifying that I am not a player, three times) >> >> Alexis (16 Mar 2020) >> +1 Aris (for having to wait so long for a peer review) >> -1 Alexis (for the delay) >> >> [New Week 16-Mar] >> >> Falsifian (15 Mar 2020) >> +1 G. (keeping things moving) >> -1 Falsifian (
BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report
COE You missed a notice of honour I published against twg and for aris, and a notice aris published against me and for twg On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:23 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official wrote: > Herald's Weekly report > > Date of Last Report: 17 May 2020 > Date of This Report: 24 May 2020 > > Karma Entity > - -- > > +7 Jason <= SHOGUN > > - ABOVE +4 STAND THE SAMURAI > > +4 Aris > +4 G. > +3 twg > +3 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > +2 omd > +2 Trigon > +2 Warrigal > +1 Alexis > -1 Bernie > -1 o > -1 Gaelan > -1 R. Lee > -2 ATMunn > -2 Falsifian > -2 Murphy > -2 Rance > -3 Agora > -4 CuddleBeam > -4 Baron von Vaderham > > - BELOW -4 LIE THE GAMMAS > > -5 D. Margaux <= HONOURLESS WORM > > - -- > All other entities have 0 Karma. > > > Notices of Honour (2 Years History): > > > P.S.S. (24 May 2020) > +1 Murphy (giving a timely and thorough response to my petition) > -1 ATMunn (randomly selected karma source) > > [New Week 18-May] > > [time of last report] > > [New Week 11-May] > > R. Lee (07 May 2020) > +1 Falsifian (timely performance of registrar's duties) > -1 Trigon (There are about six paragraphs of introduction to this judgement >and just one of "analysis" The last paragraph of this judgement > is >exactly the sort of paragraph to be avoided because it's all > waffle >and no argument. "Far more convincing", "doesn't seem to > indicate or >even imply".) > > Nch (05 May 2020) > +1 G. (furnished ample research material > -1 D Margaux (rolled a d20, got a 9, chose 9th name on most recent > Registrar's report) > > [New Week 4-May] > > Trigon (03 May 2020) > +1 Jason (sorry for making you deal with all of this vote switchery) > -1 G. (I think this reaction was wildly overblown) > > Alexis (03 May 2020) > +1 R. Lee (for rejoining as an active participant) > -1 G. (for putting a minor rule abuse ahead of fixing a broken >historical record) > > G. (03 May 2020) > +1 Jason (a person deserving of Shogun) > -1 Alexis (for unnecessary reconsideration) > > Murphy (28 Apr 2020) > +1 PSS (testing the finger-pointing rules in an interesting way) > -1 ATMunn (randomly chosen zombie) > > Alexis (28 Apr 2020) > +1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) > -1 R. Lee (scummy report thievery) > > [New Week 27-Apr] > > G. (25 Apr 2020) > +1 PSS (catching up the treasury office) > -1 twg (the departure) > > [New Week 20-Apr] > > Aris (14 Apr 2020) > +1 Warrigal (introducing the amazing term "boo clause") > -1 PSS (attempting to levy excessive fines) > > [New Week 13-Apr] > > Alexis (11 Apr 2020) > +1 PSS (for eir careful investigation as Referee) > -1 G. (for dismissing petitions as unimportant) > > R. Lee (09 Apr 2020) > +1 Jason (rulekeeping is one of the hardest jobs (along with treasuror, > which nobody is doing, therefore keeping the game mechanics in > eternal stasis) > -1 R. Lee (because lets be honest, i deserve to be honourless worm) > > G. (09 Apr 2020) > +1 PSS (having to deal with the paperwork) > -1 R. Lee (for attempting to launch fishing expeditions) > > > Quartery Adjustment, April 01, 2020 > Jacob Arduino: -1 -> 0 > Agora: == -3 > > R. Lee (31 Mar 2020) > +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) > -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) > > Alexis (31 Mar 2020) > +1 Jason (for putting to rest a piece of ancient history) > -1 Aris (for abusing a motion to reconsider to extend a deadline) > > [New Week 30-Mar] > > [New Week 23-Mar] > > Falsifian (21 Mar 2020) > +1 Alexis (Helping the Registrar keep more accurate information) > -1 Alexis (Punishing me for an error I could not have known about >without spending unreasonable effort verifying the records >I inherited from the previous Registrar. (I first joined >Agora long after the event in question.)) > > Telnaior (21 Mar 2020) > +1 Alexis (for catching something small but important that was missed >in the history books) > -1 Falsifian (for stuffing up the player list) > > G. (20 Mar 2020) > +1 Jason (for losing a chance to judge a case older than emself) > -1 Aris (for jumping onto an assigned case) > > R. Lee (16 Mar 2020) > +1 Aris (because [e]'s epic) > -1 Falsifian (for self ratifying that I am not a player, three times) > > Alexis (16 Mar 2020) > +1 Aris (for having to wait so long for a peer review) > -1 Alexis (for the delay) > > [New Week 16-Mar] > > Falsifian (15 Mar 2020) > +1 G. (keeping things moving) > -1 Falsifian (Ineffective Registrar) > > Jason (14 Mar 2020) > +1 Murphy (seems like e should be higher than -4) > -1 G. (down with the Shogun!) > > [New Week 09-Mar] > > G. (02 Mar 2020) > +1 Gaelan (showing willingness to work with the geezers) > -1 nch (sitting at +1 for
Re: BUS: [Herald] Petition of the Associate Director of Personnel
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 4:25 AM Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > PSS wrote: > > > To the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel and the Agoran Public, > > the Honorable Herald does proclaim the following: > > > > WHEREAS the titles patent referred to as "Long Service Awards" have > > historically been awarded with the guidance of the Honorable Associate > > Director of Personnel; > > > > WHEREAS such titles patent have not been awarded in recent times; AND > > > > WHEREAS the rules empower the Herald to award patent titles and > > instruct em to do so when appropriate; > > > > LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald petition and instruct the > > Honorable Associate Director of Personnel to make recommendations of > > candidates for the patent titles known as "Long Service Awards". > > > > IN WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the > > Seal of the Office of the Herald to be affixed. > > > > At agora-official, this twenty-third day of May in the Year of our > > Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > Herald > > To the Honorable Herald and the Agoran Public, the Honorable Associate > Director of Personnel replies thusly: > > WHEREAS the previous Rule text governing the patent titles known as > "Long Service Awards" has previously been repealed; > > WHEREAS the Proposal titled "Re-Officialization", which would have > re-enacted such Rule text with an additional requirement of "without > significant dereliction of duty", was rejected earlier this month; > > WHEREAS the provenance of such awards is thus bound solely by the > requirement of Two Agoran Consent; > > LET IT BE KNOWN that, at the time of this reply, the following officers > have held the specified offices continuously for at least the specified > duration: > >* ADoP Murphy, nine months >* Arbitor G., nine months >* Assessor Jason, nine months >* Distributor omd, twelve months >* Promotor Aris, twelve months >* Registrar Falsifian, twelve months >* Rulekeepor Jason, three months > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that these patent titles have previously been > awarded only once each per player, and if this practice is continued, > then the following candidates need not be considered further, having > already been awarded the corresponding patent title: Murphy, G., omd. > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that, as some members of the Agoran Public may > wish to consider "significant dereliction of duty" before supporting or > opposing such awards, I do not believe the remaining candidates (Jason, > Aris, Falsifian) have committed such for their above-listed offices. > > LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that I believe there have been additional such > periods of continuous service since the aforementioned Rule text was > repealed, but that such periods fall outside the scope of the petition > currently at hand. > > IN WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the > Seal of the Office of the Associate Director of Personnel to be affixed. > > At agora-official, this twenty-fourth day of May in the Year of our > Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. > > Murphy > Associate Director of Personnel Notice of Honor +1 Murphy (giving a timely and thorough response to my petition) -1 ATMunn (randomly selected karma source)
Re: BUS: It hasn't been 1 million years yet
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 9:50 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I point my finger at R. Lee for the violation of the following pledge, > as described in the Notary's weekly report: > > > PLEDGE > > |/R. Lee Keeps Top-Posting R. Lee| /|/MADE: Mar 03 2020 01:21|WINDOW: > > *3|EXPIRES: *4|N: 2| > > / > > Sorry, I pledge for the time period of 1 million years to make no more > > than 5 breaches of the following rule. > > R. Lee shall append eir text at the bottom of the reply chain > > > > > Evidence: > > [0], [1], [2], [3], [4]. > > > [0]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042705.html > > [1]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042721.html > > [2]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042797.html > > [3]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042833.html > > [4]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042858.html > > -- > Jason Cobb > Thank you for providing the detailed evidence! Having investigated the matter and having verified the evidence provided, I have found that the pledge was broken, which is a Class 2 crime. Given the strength of the pledge, I do not believe that such violations were minor, accidental, or inconsequential any more than any violation of the pledge could have been. However, I also don't find reason to believe that the violations were willful, profitable, or egregious. As a result, I impose the Cold Hand of Justice on R. Lee by levying an unforgivable fine of 2 blots.
BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards
To the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel and the Agoran Public, the Honorable Herald replies thusly: WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has responded in a timely manner to the petition from the Honorable Herald; WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel recommends many candidates for the Long Service Awards; WHEREAS the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel has certified that these candidates have effectively and fully executed the duties of their offices for the durations recommended; and WHEREAS the Honorable Herald is empowered to award these awards with Agoran Consent; LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Three Months" for eir meritorious service as Rulekeepor; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Jason the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Nine Months" for eir meritorious service as Assessor; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Aris the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as Promotor; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald intends with 2 Agoran Consent to award to Falsifian the patent title of "Long Service Award" in the class of "Twelve Months" for eir meritorious service as Registrar; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald thanks the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel for eir response; LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that the Honorable Herald petitions and instructs the Right Honorable Speaker and the Right Honorable Prime Minister to express their opinions on each of the above intents in fulfillment of their ceremonial duties and in the spirit of Rule 2581. In WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the Seal of the Office of the Herald to be affixed. At agora-official, this twenty-fourth day of May in the Year of our Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus Herald
Re: BUS: [Herald] Petition of the Associate Director of Personnel
PSS wrote: To the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel and the Agoran Public, the Honorable Herald does proclaim the following: WHEREAS the titles patent referred to as "Long Service Awards" have historically been awarded with the guidance of the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel; WHEREAS such titles patent have not been awarded in recent times; AND WHEREAS the rules empower the Herald to award patent titles and instruct em to do so when appropriate; LET IT BE KNOWN that the Honorable Herald petition and instruct the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel to make recommendations of candidates for the patent titles known as "Long Service Awards". IN WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the Seal of the Office of the Herald to be affixed. At agora-official, this twenty-third day of May in the Year of our Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus Herald To the Honorable Herald and the Agoran Public, the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel replies thusly: WHEREAS the previous Rule text governing the patent titles known as "Long Service Awards" has previously been repealed; WHEREAS the Proposal titled "Re-Officialization", which would have re-enacted such Rule text with an additional requirement of "without significant dereliction of duty", was rejected earlier this month; WHEREAS the provenance of such awards is thus bound solely by the requirement of Two Agoran Consent; LET IT BE KNOWN that, at the time of this reply, the following officers have held the specified offices continuously for at least the specified duration: * ADoP Murphy, nine months * Arbitor G., nine months * Assessor Jason, nine months * Distributor omd, twelve months * Promotor Aris, twelve months * Registrar Falsifian, twelve months * Rulekeepor Jason, three months LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that these patent titles have previously been awarded only once each per player, and if this practice is continued, then the following candidates need not be considered further, having already been awarded the corresponding patent title: Murphy, G., omd. LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that, as some members of the Agoran Public may wish to consider "significant dereliction of duty" before supporting or opposing such awards, I do not believe the remaining candidates (Jason, Aris, Falsifian) have committed such for their above-listed offices. LET IT BE FURTHER KNOWN that I believe there have been additional such periods of continuous service since the aforementioned Rule text was repealed, but that such periods fall outside the scope of the petition currently at hand. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, whereunto I have applied my will and caused the Seal of the Office of the Associate Director of Personnel to be affixed. At agora-official, this twenty-fourth day of May in the Year of our Agoran Calendar two thousand and twenty. Murphy Associate Director of Personnel
