BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8530-8531
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8530g^ nix, Jason1.0 No Honour FOR > 8531g^ Jason 1.5 Patent Title Restoration v2 FOR. I'm a bit iffy on the idea of allowing new patent titles to be granted to non-persons, but it doesn't seem like there's a mechanism for that at present. Even if this would allow patent titles to be granted to non-persons, that doesn't seem holding up the fix over. -Aris
BUS: A Gift for JTAC [attn. Treasuror]
I give JTAC one pendant. E's had a lot of good ideas so far and I want to give em some help getting started. -Aris
BUS: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals
The proposal "No Honour" is referred to the Ministry of Legacy. The proposal "Patent Title Restoration v2" is referred to the Ministry of Legacy.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Referee
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 7:14 PM nix via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 1/17/21 10:48 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > election. The Vote Collector is me, the valid options are Gaelan > > and JTAC and anyone else who becomes a candidate during the voting > > period, and the voting method is instant runoff. > > I vote [JTAC, Gaelan]. > > -- > nix Webmastor, Ministor, Herald JTAC is a newcomer who has brought an unusual degree of diligence to the office. I vote [JTAC, Gaelan]. -Aris >
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Referee
On 1/17/21 10:48 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > election. The Vote Collector is me, the valid options are Gaelan > and JTAC and anyone else who becomes a candidate during the voting > period, and the voting method is instant runoff. I vote [JTAC, Gaelan]. -- nix Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Referee
On 1/17/21 11:48 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > election. The Vote Collector is me, the valid options are Gaelan > and JTAC and anyone else who becomes a candidate during the voting > period, and the voting method is instant runoff. I vote [Gaelan, JTAC]. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: BUS: backroom dealings with a humble agoran farmer
I wield my Concentration Stone, specifying Gaelan! I cash in the promise. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:38 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I create the following promise and transfer it to Cuddlebeam: > > { > Cashing conditions: Cuddlebeam wields eir concentration stone, specifying > Gaelan. > > I transfer 12 boatloads of coins to Cuddlebeam. > } > > Gaelan
BUS: backroom dealings with a humble agoran farmer
I create the following promise and transfer it to Cuddlebeam: { Cashing conditions: Cuddlebeam wields eir concentration stone, specifying Gaelan. I transfer 12 boatloads of coins to Cuddlebeam. } Gaelan
@Treasuror @Stonemason Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer does business
On 1/18/2021 3:31 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I grant Shy Owl a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlebeam transfer 200 coins to Shy Owl" and with the cashing conditions that Shy Owl has transferred me 1 Victory Card in the same message. I grant ATMunn a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlebeam transfer 1 Legislative Card and 75 coins to ATMunn" and with the cashing conditions that ATMunn has transferred me 1 Concentration Stone in the same message. I transfer my Concentration Stone to Cuddlebeam, and cash the promise e granted me in the quoted text above. This causes em to transfer a Legislative Card and 75 coins to me. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
BUS: (@Treasuror) [Emergency] unfinished business
Was just having a final look at comments from a few months back on the Dictatorship to see if I missed anything to fix. Back some time ago (October), I attempted to buy a Victory Card from Gaelan for 200 coins, through the splat market (e'd posted the offer). When I attempted to exercise the trade, it turned out that a Treasuror's Report had self-ratified the error that Gaelan had zero Victory Cards. So Gaelan was self-ratified out of property, we chatted about ratifying it back but never did. So this is a wee bit selfish, but it's a quick fix. I transfer 300 coins to Gaelan [adjusting original price for inflation]. I demonstrate the following rulebending form: The following Emergency Regulation ("Quick Correction") is enacted: When this regulation is enacted, one Victory Card is created in G.'s possession. I demonstrate the following rulebending form: The Emergency Regulation "Quick Correction" is repealed.
BUS: (@treasuror, @referee) Re: OFF: [Interim Referee] Crime and Punishment
On 1/14/2021 9:46 AM, JTAC via agora-official wrote: > 3 Gaelan I pay a fee of one Blot-B-gone to expunge a blot from Gaelan. I pay a fee of one Blot-B-gone to expunge a blot from Gaelan. (two expungements intended). -G.
BUS: humble agoran farmer does more business
I grant Ubercrow a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlebeam transfer 200 coins to Ubercrow" and with the cashing conditions that Ubercrow has transferred me 1 Victory Card in the same message.
BUS: humble agoran farmer does business
I grant Shy Owl a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlebeam transfer 200 coins to Shy Owl" and with the cashing conditions that Shy Owl has transferred me 1 Victory Card in the same message. I grant ATMunn a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlebeam transfer 1 Legislative Card and 75 coins to ATMunn" and with the cashing conditions that ATMunn has transferred me 1 Concentration Stone in the same message.
Re: BUS: [AAA] Dissolution
On 1/14/21 12:55 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 1/14/21 12:48 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I submit the following Amendment Proposal to the Agoran Arbitration >> Association: >> >> { >> >> Replace the entire text of the contract with "Any party CAN cease being >> a party by announcement. This contract CAN be terminated by a party by >> announcement." >> >> } >> > Oh, I intend, without objection from the parties of AAA, to apply the > changes specified by the above Amendment Proposal. > Seeing no objection, I do so. I cause AAA to be terminated. RIP. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: BUS: @Treasuror @Stonemason Re: OFF: [Stonemason] January Stone Auction Resolution
On 1/16/21 8:18 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I wield the Soul Stone, specifying the Wealth Stone. This fails. The Soul Stone can only be used on non-immune stones, and stones owned by Agora are immune. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: [CFJ] Rule Numbers
I CFJ: "There exists exactly one rule with the number 2633." Evidence: { Rule 2141/14 (Power=3.1) Role and Attributes of Rules A rule is an enduring statute. Every rule has a power between 0.1 and 4.0, inclusive. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, it is IMPOSSIBLE to enact a rule with power outside this range, or to change the power of an existing rule to a nonzero value outside this range. The set of all currently-existing rules is called the ruleset. Every rule shall have an ID number, distinct among current and former rules, to be assigned once by the Rulekeepor. Every rule shall have a title to aid in identification. If a rule ever does not have a title, then the Rulekeepor CAN and SHALL assign a title to it by announcement in a timely fashion. For the purposes of rules governing modification of instruments, the text, power, ID number, and title of a rule are all substantive aspects of the rule. However, rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the Rulekeepor CAN set rule aspects as described elsewhere in this rule. Rule 2140/4 (Power=3) Power Controls Mutability Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no entity with power below the power of this rule can 1. cause an entity to have power greater than its own. 2. adjust the power of a statute with power greater than its own. 3. set or modify any other substantive aspect of an instrument with power greater than its own except as otherwise provided in this rule. A "substantive" aspect of a statute is any aspect that affects the statute's operation. An ephemeral instrument is bound by prohibitions and limitations specified in rules of lower power, unless it explicitly overrides those prohibition(s) as provided for in other rules. Rule 2125/12 (Power=3) Regulated Actions An action is regulated by a body of law if (1) its performance is limited, allowed, enabled, or permitted by that body of law; (2) that body of law describes the circumstances under which it would succeed or fail; or (3) it would, as part of its effect, modify information for which some person bound by that body of law is required, by that body of law, to be a recordkeepor. If a body of law regulates an action, then to the extent that doing so is within its scope, that body of law prevents the action from being performed except as described within it, including by limiting the methods to perform that action to those specified within it. A body of law does not proscribe any action which it does not regulate. } Arguments: { Assigning a rule number appears to be a regulated action, as its performance is "limited" by Rules 2141 and 2140 (since Rule numbers are explicitly made substantive aspects of Rules, and Rules are instruments). No Rule provides an explicit mechanism by which to set the number of a Rule. Therefore, under Rule 2125, there is no mechanism to assign rule numbers to rules (except by proposal most likely). Even if a mechanism such as by annoucement were to be inferred, the standard for by announcement has not been met, as the Rulekeepor has never announced that e is assigning, e has only published rulesets with the numbers labeled. } -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: Ubercrow: Tailor's Weekly Glitter Report
Glitter: Tailor's Weekly Report (January 11 - January 18) Glitter prices at start of week: (All prices are in Boatloads of Coins) Red 11 Violet4 Orange7 Indigo 16 Green10 Platinum 9 Emerald 11 Lime 10 Cyan 5 White14 Blue 6 blacK 7 Magenta 6 grAy 3 Ultraviolet 5 Transparent 9 Glitter prices at end of period: Red 13 (+2) Violet6 (+2) Orange 10 (+3) Indigo 17 (+1) Green12 (+2) Platinum 10 (+1) Emerald 12 (+1) Lime 13 (+3) Cyan 6 (+1) White15 (+1) Blue 8 (+2) blacK 9 (+2) Magenta 8 (+2) grAy 5 (+2) Ultraviolet 7 (+2) Transparent 11 (+2) I award nix with 11 Boatloads of Coins for attaining Emerald Glitter. - Ubercrow, Tailor, Spellchecker’s Apprentice - please inform me if this is all wrong.
BUS: humble agoran farmer greets Nietzsche
What I'm going to do here might seem weird, and it heavily involves a perspectivistic view on nomic. Basically, while the Ruleset's text may not change, our understanding of it may, which may drastically change how past actions have 'actually' worked. So I'm just doing an action/s that - in our current understanding of the rules - does nothing. That's fine to do, right? But if our understanding changes in the future, and in my favor, I could go "oh well, I actually won then, didn't I?" So, yeah I intend to piggy-back on some possible future argument that would make what I'm doing, actually work. I don't know what such an argument may be, but I don't need to, obviously. This also has the delicious extra bonus that it serves to thwart any possible scams that only require these actions to do (even if the explanation behind them would be incredibly complex), because hey: I did it first lol, even if I didn't know that I did. So the would-be scammer would likely require to make me win as well to perform them, or they just won't do them because if they reveal a new 'true' interpretation of the Ruleset, it just makes me win and screws their scam anyways. It's free to do, anyways! I can do actions that will clearly fail whenever I want, and it won't break No Faking, because as far as I'm concerned (and most of you, I presume), they just don't work, and I'm being pretty clear about this. This isn't misleading. Sure, there's ratification over time from reports and stuff that could overwrite this, but I just need to post these failing 'Nietzsche actions' between them and I should be fine. You could also try to thwart this by timing your actions between reports somehow but eh, I'm just going to rely on that people just won't go through the extra trouble. The scam protection aspect still works to a degree, anyways. Anyways, here goes: AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS DOES NOTHING AND DOESN'T WORK: I, Cuddlebeam, wield 5 or more stones. I Take Over the Economy.