Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Administrative Regulations Amendments

2021-07-11 Thread Aspen via agora-business
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:53 PM ais523 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:46 +1000, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote:
> > I intend with 1.5 Agoran Consent to repeal Regulation RA0/0, "Limitations
> > to Powers of Interim Referees". It refers to a mechanism (Summary
> Judgment)
> > that no longer exists in the same form, and the Holiday thing is silly,
> why
> > would an interim Referee be any different to a permanent one in that
> > respect. I'm no longer interim so Ive no personal interest here.
> >
> > I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to retitle Regulation RA1/0 to
> "Tardiness".
> > I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to amend the Regulation to state "The
> > Referee SHALL NOT impose a fine above one blot for Tardiness unless the
> > Tardiness is for an obligation which has been missed for more than 14
> days,
> > or unless the Tardiness is intentional".
> >
> > I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to repeal Regulation RA3/0 (not needed)
>
> I support the first three of these intents. (This message does not
> contain support nor opposition to the fourth.)
>

I support the first three and object to the fourth.

-Aspen


Re: BUS: Happy Tuesday!

2021-07-11 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 05:30 +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> I call the following CFJ: This CFJ was called on 13 Jul 2021.
> 
> Caller's Evidence: This message sure seems to think so.
> 
> So as not to be dinged for No Faking, it is completely possible that
> nothing here worked.

Gratuitous evidence:

>From the headers of the above-quoted message:
> Received: from localhost ([73.127.1.41])
>  by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k189sm16420598pgk.14.2021.07.11.22.30.52
>  for 
>  (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256);
>  Sun, 11 Jul 2021 22:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
> Message-ID: <60ebd38c.1c69fb81.da881.1...@mx.google.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 05:30:00 +

These headers are out of order (the Date timestamp should precede every
Received timestamp, or at most be out by a few seconds due to clocks
not being synchronized), implying that at least one of them was forged.
(I strongly suspect it's the Date header, given that 13 Jul 2021 hasn't
happend yet.)

Gratuitous arguments:

I think there's a difference between the situation where an email
header "looks" genuine, and one which has been provably forged. In the
latter case, the contradiction within the email headers means that the
message is failing to clearly state the date on which it was sent. It'd
be like trying to take an action by announcement, "I do X but do not do
X", which I would expect to unambiguously fail.

This may cause some complication determining the exact moment at which
the email was actually sent, but it clearly wasn't tomorrow.

-- 
ais523



BUS: Happy Tuesday!

2021-07-11 Thread Trigon via agora-business
I call the following CFJ: This CFJ was called on 13 Jul 2021.

Caller's Evidence: This message sure seems to think so.

So as not to be dinged for No Faking, it is completely possible that nothing 
here worked.


BUS: @Arbitor Blots CFJ

2021-07-11 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
I call a CFJ: Each player may claim a justice card this Agoran week.

Rule 2478 states in relevant part "The player who initiated the most Finger
Pointings that resulted

  in a Warning, Indictment, or Cold Hand of Justice in the previous
  Agoran Week CAN once grant emself a Justice Card by announcement."

The rule provides nothing about ties. Last Agoran week, everybody was
tied in having pointed 0 such fingers. Does that mean everyone gets
one, or that only a singular 'player'  can get one?


-- 
>From R. Lee


BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Administrative Regulations Amendments

2021-07-11 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:46 +1000, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote:
> I intend with 1.5 Agoran Consent to repeal Regulation RA0/0, "Limitations
> to Powers of Interim Referees". It refers to a mechanism (Summary Judgment)
> that no longer exists in the same form, and the Holiday thing is silly, why
> would an interim Referee be any different to a permanent one in that
> respect. I'm no longer interim so Ive no personal interest here.
> 
> I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to retitle Regulation RA1/0 to "Tardiness".
> I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to amend the Regulation to state "The
> Referee SHALL NOT impose a fine above one blot for Tardiness unless the
> Tardiness is for an obligation which has been missed for more than 14 days,
> or unless the Tardiness is intentional".
> 
> I intend w/ 1.5 Agoran Consent to repeal Regulation RA3/0 (not needed)

I support the first three of these intents. (This message does not
contain support nor opposition to the fourth.)

-- 
ais523



BUS: The Arbitor is BORED.

2021-07-11 Thread Telna via agora-business
I pledge to transfer a total of 840 coins split between the player or 
players who do something before the end of July 2021 that is interesting 
enough to have another player call a non-trivial CFJ about it, provided 
at least one such player exists at the end of August 2021.
(Terms and Conditions: Which CFJs qualify as "non-trivial" will be 
decided at the Arbitor's sole discretion. Please don't try to get me in 
trouble for offering free stuff.)


BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election updates

2021-07-11 Thread Telna via agora-business

On 2021-07-12 06:40, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote:

I resolve elections as follows (sole nominees):
   * Telna is elected Arbitor

I award myself an Emerald Ribbon.


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] July Stone Auction

2021-07-11 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 12:02 PM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 12/07/2021 01:53, Rebecca Lee via agora-business wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Trigon via agora-business <
> > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/07/2021 01:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 7/9/21 5:42 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>  On 7/8/2021 8:24 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 7/8/21 10:39 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 7/6/2021 7:59 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 7/6/21 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>  On 7/6/2021 9:07 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> > Pursuant to Rule 2642, I initiate a stone auction with the
> >> following
> > lots: [Sabotage Stone], [Concentration Stone], [Protection
> Stone].
>  I bid 75 on the Protection Stone.
> 
>  -G.
> 
> >>> I bid 90 on the Protection Stone.
> >>>
> >> I bid 103 on the protection stone.  -G.
> >>
> > I bid 105 on the protection stone.
> >
> > I bid 60 on the sabotage stone.
> >
>  I bid 110 on the protection stone.  -G.
> 
> >>>
> >>> I bid 130 on the protection stone.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I bid 200 on the protection stone and 500 on the concentration stone.
> >>
> >
> > I bid 550 on the concentration stone
> >
>
> I bid 600 on the concentration stone
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

I bid 620 on concentration
-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] July Stone Auction

2021-07-11 Thread Trigon via agora-business

On 12/07/2021 01:53, Rebecca Lee via agora-business wrote:

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:


On 11/07/2021 01:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/9/21 5:42 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/8/2021 8:24 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/8/21 10:39 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/2021 7:59 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/21 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/2021 9:07 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:

Pursuant to Rule 2642, I initiate a stone auction with the

following

lots: [Sabotage Stone], [Concentration Stone], [Protection Stone].

I bid 75 on the Protection Stone.

-G.


I bid 90 on the Protection Stone.


I bid 103 on the protection stone.  -G.


I bid 105 on the protection stone.

I bid 60 on the sabotage stone.


I bid 110 on the protection stone.  -G.



I bid 130 on the protection stone.



I bid 200 on the protection stone and 500 on the concentration stone.



I bid 550 on the concentration stone



I bid 600 on the concentration stone

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] July Stone Auction

2021-07-11 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 11/07/2021 01:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 7/9/21 5:42 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 7/8/2021 8:24 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 7/8/21 10:39 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>  On 7/6/2021 7:59 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 7/6/21 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 7/6/2021 9:07 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> >>> Pursuant to Rule 2642, I initiate a stone auction with the
> following
> >>> lots: [Sabotage Stone], [Concentration Stone], [Protection Stone].
> >> I bid 75 on the Protection Stone.
> >>
> >> -G.
> >>
> > I bid 90 on the Protection Stone.
> >
>  I bid 103 on the protection stone.  -G.
> 
> >>> I bid 105 on the protection stone.
> >>>
> >>> I bid 60 on the sabotage stone.
> >>>
> >> I bid 110 on the protection stone.  -G.
> >>
> >
> > I bid 130 on the protection stone.
> >
>
> I bid 200 on the protection stone and 500 on the concentration stone.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

I bid 550 on the concentration stone
-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] July Stone Auction

2021-07-11 Thread Trigon via agora-business

On 11/07/2021 01:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/9/21 5:42 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/8/2021 8:24 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/8/21 10:39 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/2021 7:59 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/21 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:

On 7/6/2021 9:07 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:

Pursuant to Rule 2642, I initiate a stone auction with the following
lots: [Sabotage Stone], [Concentration Stone], [Protection Stone].

I bid 75 on the Protection Stone.

-G.


I bid 90 on the Protection Stone.


I bid 103 on the protection stone.  -G.


I bid 105 on the protection stone.

I bid 60 on the sabotage stone.


I bid 110 on the protection stone.  -G.



I bid 130 on the protection stone.



I bid 200 on the protection stone and 500 on the concentration stone.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of July 2021

2021-07-11 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:50 AM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 12/07/2021 00:20, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 10:37:25AM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business
> wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2021 21:15, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:27:35AM +, Trigon via agora-business
> wrote:
>  On 05/07/2021 19:42, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > On 7/4/2021 21:22, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 10:57:46PM +, Trigon via agora-business
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 04/07/2021 15:48, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> >> I bid 400 coins.
> >>
> > I bid 29 coins.  -G.
> >
> 
>  I bid 30 coins.
> 
>  --
>  Jason Cobb
> >>
> >> I bid 100 coins.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ATMunn
> >> friendly neighborhood notary :)
> 
>  On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 10:14:09AM +1000, Rebecca Lee via
>  agora-business wrote:
> > I bid 105
> 
>  I bid 600 coins.
> 
> >>>
> >>> I bid 750 coins.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Trigon
> >>
> >> I bid 900.
> >>
> >
> > I bid OVER NINE HUNDRED (that being, 901) coins.
> >
> 
>  I bid 950 coins.
> 
>  --
>  Trigon
> >>>
> >>> I bid 1100 coins.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I bid  coins.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ATMunn
> >> friendly neighborhood notary :)
> >
> > I withdraw from this auction. I transfer 220 Coins to Trigon (thanks
> > for the reminder).
> >
>
> I also withdraw from this auction.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

Hey that puts me in 2nd, thanks guys!
-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of July 2021

2021-07-11 Thread Trigon via agora-business

On 12/07/2021 00:20, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 10:37:25AM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

On 7/7/2021 21:15, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:27:35AM +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 05/07/2021 19:42, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

On 7/4/2021 21:22, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 10:57:46PM +, Trigon via agora-business
wrote:

On 04/07/2021 15:48, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

I bid 400 coins.


I bid 29 coins.  -G.



I bid 30 coins.

--
Jason Cobb


I bid 100 coins.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)


On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 10:14:09AM +1000, Rebecca Lee via
agora-business wrote:

I bid 105


I bid 600 coins.



I bid 750 coins.

--
Trigon


I bid 900.



I bid OVER NINE HUNDRED (that being, 901) coins.



I bid 950 coins.

--
Trigon


I bid 1100 coins.



I bid  coins.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)


I withdraw from this auction. I transfer 220 Coins to Trigon (thanks
for the reminder).



I also withdraw from this auction.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of July 2021

2021-07-11 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 10:37:25AM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/7/2021 21:15, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:27:35AM +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> > > On 05/07/2021 19:42, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > > > On 7/4/2021 21:22, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 10:57:46PM +, Trigon via agora-business
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On 04/07/2021 15:48, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I bid 400 coins.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I bid 29 coins.  -G.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I bid 30 coins.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > > > Jason Cobb
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I bid 100 coins.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > ATMunn
> > > > > > > > > friendly neighborhood notary :)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 10:14:09AM +1000, Rebecca Lee via
> > > > > > > agora-business wrote:
> > > > > > > > I bid 105
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I bid 600 coins.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I bid 750 coins.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > 
> > > > > I bid 900.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I bid OVER NINE HUNDRED (that being, 901) coins.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I bid 950 coins.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Trigon
> > 
> > I bid 1100 coins.
> > 
> 
> I bid  coins.
> 
> -- 
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary :)

I withdraw from this auction. I transfer 220 Coins to Trigon (thanks
for the reminder).

-- 
Falsifian


BUS: @tailor glitter

2021-07-11 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
I award myself emerald glitter (ref election)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract Amendment] Agoran Press Changes

2021-07-11 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

Falsifian wrote:


On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 03:38:32PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

On 7/4/2021 23:37, Telna via agora-business wrote:

On 2021-07-05 13:34, Telna via agora-business wrote:

On 2021-07-05 11:17, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

I propose the following amendment to the Agoran Press contract, and I
consent to it.I consent to this amendment.

I really need to figure out why this happens :V
To be clear, I do in fact consent to the amendment.


I also consent to the amendment proposed by Falsifian.

I doubt it would be interpreted this way, but it in a way looks like you
were saying you were proposing an amendment. Might want to do a retract
for safety (probably fine if not tho).

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)


ATMunn, are you a party to the contract? If not, I encourage you to
join so that your consent helps this amendment pass.

Unless I've missed some, we have so far:

player indicated consent
ATMunn*Yes
Falsifian  Yes
Gaelan No
Lucidiot   No
Murphy No
Telna  Yes

*Might not be a party.

and we need two thirds.


I consent to each amendment to the Agoran Press contract currently
under consideration.


BUS: Focusing (attn Treasuror)

2021-07-11 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I grant myself a voting card.