BUS: [CFJ] Re: OFF: [Stonemason] September Collection Notice

[ais523 via agora-business]

On Sat, 2021-09-04 at 01:23 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> I hereby publish the following collection notice (NOT a self-
> ratifying stone report):
> 
> All stones are owned by Agora, and are thus immune. No escape choices
> are necessary.

CFJ: If the above-quoted message had explicitly listed the types of
stones that exist (and otherwise contained the same information), then
despite the disclaimer, it would have been self-ratifying.

Evidence: The above-quoted message.

Arguments: Most triggers for self-ratification in the rules require the
thing that self-ratifies to purport to be something, e.g. a Ribbons
report self-ratifies only if it's purporting to be a Ribbons report.
However, assets are a separate case; rule 2166 states that the
recordkeepor's report lists all instances of the class of assets and
their owners, and that portion of the report is self-ratifying. In
other words, the trigger is whether something *is* an asset report, not
whether it *purports to be* one.

The Stonemason's only weekly duty, as far as I can tell, is to be "the
recordkeepor of stones". As such, I think any listing, published by the
Stonemason, of what stones exist and who their owners are is a
Stonemason weekly report by definition, even if it claims not to be.
(Specifically, I think the hypothetical collection notice posited by
the CFJ would be sufficient to satisfy the requirement in rule 2143 to
perform the officekeepor's weekly duties.)

As a side note: the actual message did not list what stones existed,
which I think is sufficient to make it not count as a weekly report; I
can't find anything in the rules that requires all the defined stones
to exist (they're indestructible but nothing forces them to have been
created in the first place). So this means, sadly, that I have to put a
hypothetical in the statement to prevent the CFJ ending up with an
obvious result on a technicality.

-- 
ais523

BUS: Stone Proposal mark 2

[Sarah S. via agora-business]

I create and pend by paying a pendant the following proposal

Title: Stony Silence
Coauthor G
AI 2
Amend rule 2642, 'Distributing Stones' by replacing its second paragraph
with 'The Stonemason SHALL if possible initiate such an auction monthly and
only once a month, in a timely fashion after a collection notice has been
issued. The Stonemason SHALL auction exactly 2 stones in a month if
possible'

Retitle rule 2644 'The Gauntlet' to 'Zen Gardening' [cosmetic change to
remove the annoying movie reference that I discussed once on discord]

Amend rule 2644 by replacing any instances of the word 'Gauntlet' with
'Rock Garden'

Amend rule 2644 by replacing '5 or more' with '8 or more'

Amend rule 2645 'The Stones' by adding the following text on the end.
"-  Recursion Stone (Monthly, 80%): The recursion stone can be wielded once
per
month as if it had the power of any other stone of your choice.

- Hot Potato Stone (Weekly, 100%):  When this stone is wielded, the
 wielder gains 8 boatloads of coins if the wielder, in the same message
as the wielding, transfers this stone to a player who has not owned
this stone since Agora last owned it. This stone cannot otherwise be
transferred, other rules notwithstanding.
 This stone is immune  if
3 or more players have wielded it since the most recent collection notice.


- Blank Stone (Monthly, 5%): This stone has no effect.

-Alchemy Stone (weekly, 70%): Destroy four cards you own. If four cards were
destroyed this way, gain 7 products of your choice. "
-- 
--
R. Lee

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[Trigon via agora-business]

On 03/09/2021 17:30, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

On 9/3/2021 12:07, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 03/09/2021 16:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:


On 9/3/2021 8:13 AM, Trigon via agora-business wrote:


I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards



I bid 1350 coins on that lot.



I bid 1500 on that lot.

I bid 750 on the lot with 1 VC.

-G.



I bid 1600 on the lot with two cards.
I bid 800 on the lot with one card.



I bid 900 on the lot with one card.



I bid 950 on that lot.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[ATMunn via agora-business]

On 9/3/2021 12:07, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 03/09/2021 16:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:


On 9/3/2021 8:13 AM, Trigon via agora-business wrote:


I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards



I bid 1350 coins on that lot.



I bid 1500 on that lot.

I bid 750 on the lot with 1 VC.

-G.



I bid 1600 on the lot with two cards.
I bid 800 on the lot with one card.



I bid 900 on the lot with one card.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[Trigon via agora-business]

On 03/09/2021 16:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:


On 9/3/2021 8:13 AM, Trigon via agora-business wrote:


I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards



I bid 1350 coins on that lot.



I bid 1500 on that lot.

I bid 750 on the lot with 1 VC.

-G.



I bid 1600 on the lot with two cards.
I bid 800 on the lot with one card.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[Kerim Aydin via agora-business]

On 9/3/2021 8:13 AM, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
>>
>> I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards
>>
> 
> I bid 1350 coins on that lot.
> 

I bid 1500 on that lot.

I bid 750 on the lot with 1 VC.

-G.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[Trigon via agora-business]

On 03/09/2021 06:09, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote:

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:32 PM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:


On 03/09/2021 03:51, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 9/2/21 23:37, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 03/09/2021 03:33, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 9/2/21 23:32, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 03/09/2021 03:29, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 9/2/21 23:23, Trigon via agora-business wrote:

On 03/09/2021 03:22, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 9/2/21 23:21, Trigon via agora-official wrote:

I, Trigon, the Treasuror of Agora Nomic, being authorized by Rule
2629/0, do hereby initiate a Victory Auction.

The first lot is both Victory Cards owned by the Lost and Found

Department.


The second lot is a new Victory Card.

The currency for this auction shall be the coin.

The procedure for this auction shall be a Selective-Bid Auction,

as

described by the Treasuror's Auction Regulations, which can be

found in

the ACORN at the following link:

<

https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2021-August/015205.html





I bid 1 coin on each lot.


I bid 100 coins on each lot.


I bid 200 coins on each lot.


I bid 302 coins on each lot.


I bid 350 coins on each lot.

I bid 350 points on each lot.


I bid 467 coins on each lot, and refuse to acknowledge the points bit in
that message.



I bid 500 coins on each lot, and refuse to acknowledge your refusal to
acknowledge the points bid in that message.

Also, I bid 351 points on each lot.



I bid 667 coins on each lot, and acknowledge but do not accept your
refusal to acknowledge the points bid in that message.

--
Trigon

   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this



I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards



I bid 1350 coins on that lot.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] First Victory Auction of September 2021

[Sarah S. via agora-business]

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:32 PM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 03/09/2021 03:51, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 9/2/21 23:37, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2021 03:33, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 9/2/21 23:32, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
>  On 03/09/2021 03:29, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 9/2/21 23:23, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2021 03:22, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 9/2/21 23:21, Trigon via agora-official wrote:
>  I, Trigon, the Treasuror of Agora Nomic, being authorized by Rule
>  2629/0, do hereby initiate a Victory Auction.
> 
>  The first lot is both Victory Cards owned by the Lost and Found
> Department.
> 
>  The second lot is a new Victory Card.
> 
>  The currency for this auction shall be the coin.
> 
>  The procedure for this auction shall be a Selective-Bid Auction,
> as
>  described by the Treasuror's Auction Regulations, which can be
> found in
>  the ACORN at the following link:
> 
>  <
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2021-August/015205.html
> >
> 
> >>> I bid 1 coin on each lot.
> >>>
> >> I bid 100 coins on each lot.
> >>
> > I bid 200 coins on each lot.
> >
>  I bid 302 coins on each lot.
> 
> >>> I bid 350 coins on each lot.
> >>>
> >>> I bid 350 points on each lot.
> >>>
> >> I bid 467 coins on each lot, and refuse to acknowledge the points bit in
> >> that message.
> >>
> >
> > I bid 500 coins on each lot, and refuse to acknowledge your refusal to
> > acknowledge the points bid in that message.
> >
> > Also, I bid 351 points on each lot.
> >
>
> I bid 667 coins on each lot, and acknowledge but do not accept your
> refusal to acknowledge the points bid in that message.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

I bid 1200 coins on the lot consisting of 2 victory cards
-- 
--
R. Lee