Re: BUS: (@Referee) A sad Finger Point

[Trigon via agora-business]

El 26/03/2022 a las 06:00, secretsnail9 via agora-business escribió:

I point my finger at Aspen for breaking Rule 1607 (Distribution) by
distributing the non-pending proposal, "The Hexeract" (Proposal 8663) on or
around Saturday, March 26th, 2022, 3:39:27.

This crime should be VERY forgivable as I probably should have caught it
before the distribution.

The message in which the crime took place:
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg12106.html

Relevant rule text:

The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal which is in the Proposal
   Pool at any time, but SHALL NOT do so unless it is pending.


--
secretsnail


I opine that this action is bad form.

For one thing, a draft was published. Aspen is very thorough with 
publishing drafts but if no one looks at them that defeats the point. 
This mistake should have been caught before the distribution and since 
it wasn't, that in no way reflects poorly on the Promotor.


For another thing, if this were any other report this would not have 
been a pointable offense; instead it would have been a harmless CoE. 
Officers make mistakes, and there are mechanisms in the rules to account 
for human error. This is a double standard that does not do us any good 
to uphold.


Finally, this literally does no harm whatsoever to Agora. In my opinion 
crimes exist to chastise someone if something they do harms Agora or 
makes it unreasonable to play. I get that this is probably all for the 
most-fingers-pointed reward. That is a mechanic of which I have never 
been a fan because it goes against that philosophy.


I don't know if this changes anyone's mind or if I'm whinging at this 
point. I just don't think that a finger point like this is at all justified.


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Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8657-8664

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 3/26/22 02:30, juan via agora-business wrote:
> On 2022-03-25 20:38, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
>> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
>> ---
>> 8657*   Murphy  3.0   Schrodinger's report
>> 8658*   Aspen   3.0   SLR Ratification
>> 8659*   nix, G., snail  3.0   Speak Like People
>> 8660*   nix, G., Jason, snail   3.0   The End of Sets
>> 8661&   nix, G., Jason, Trigon  1.0   Stamps v1.2
>> 8662&   snail, Jason, Telna 1.0   Birds! v2
>> 8663&   snail   1.0   The Hexeract
>> 8664&   snail   1.0   Away with the massive points
> For every proposal/referendum/whatever-makes-this-effective listed above, I 
> vote:
>
> {
> FOR, if, excluding my vote, a strict simple majority of votes resolve 
> to FOR;
> PRESENT, otherwise.
> }
>

This kind of vote is extremely annoying to deal with and doesn't seem to
actually gain you anything for these proposals. I ask you to reconsider.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8657-8664

[juan via agora-business]

On 2022-03-25 20:38, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8657*   Murphy  3.0   Schrodinger's report
> 8658*   Aspen   3.0   SLR Ratification
> 8659*   nix, G., snail  3.0   Speak Like People
> 8660*   nix, G., Jason, snail   3.0   The End of Sets
> 8661&   nix, G., Jason, Trigon  1.0   Stamps v1.2
> 8662&   snail, Jason, Telna 1.0   Birds! v2
> 8663&   snail   1.0   The Hexeract
> 8664&   snail   1.0   Away with the massive points

For every proposal/referendum/whatever-makes-this-effective listed above, I 
vote:

{
FOR, if, excluding my vote, a strict simple majority of votes resolve 
to FOR;
PRESENT, otherwise.
}

-- 
juan

BUS: (@Referee) A sad Finger Point

[secretsnail9 via agora-business]

I point my finger at Aspen for breaking Rule 1607 (Distribution) by
distributing the non-pending proposal, "The Hexeract" (Proposal 8663) on or
around Saturday, March 26th, 2022, 3:39:27.

This crime should be VERY forgivable as I probably should have caught it
before the distribution.

The message in which the crime took place:
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg12106.html

Relevant rule text:

The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal which is in the Proposal
  Pool at any time, but SHALL NOT do so unless it is pending.


--
secretsnail

BUS: [@treasuror] giving stuff away

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I transfer a winsome from ATMunn's Stash to secretsnail.

I transfer a pendant from ATMunn's Stash to cuddlybanana.

I transfer a votive from ATMunn's Stash to secretsnail.

I transfer a votive from ATMunn's Stash to cuddlybanana.

[I believe this succeeds because the contract's provisions allow me
specifically to transfer assets, even though I am not a player. I have
no idea if that actually works though.

As for the choice of who to give them too, I did a raffle on Discord.]

--
ATMunn

Re: BUS: [Proposal] SLR Ratification

[Aspen via agora-business]

I pay a pendant to pend this proposal.

-Aspen

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 1:40 PM Aspen via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal. I plan to pend it with a pendant
> before the next distribution.
>
> -Aspen
> ---
> Title: SLR Ratification
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Aspen
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Ratify the Short Logical Ruleset published on the 8th of February, 2022,
> available here [1].
>
> [1] 
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2022-February/015653.html