Re: BUS: (@assessor) voting on proposals 8851-8856

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

Not because I necessarily agree with the Proposals, but because I uphold my
voting gimmick.

On Saturday, September 3, 2022, Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I vote FOR all. (They had been warned for this behavior previously,
> multiple times. When we hear an apology we can change our minds then, but I
> don't want them to be able to play again before we are ALL ready. )
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022, 5:38 PM secretsnail9 via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > ID Author(s) AI Title
> >
> 
> ---
> > 8851* 4st 3.0 Voter Protection
> > 8852~ 4st, Jason 2.0 Fix infractions
> > 8853* Jason 3.0 Unfortunately
> > 8854* Jason 3.0 Attainder
> > 8855~ Jason 1.0 Extermination v1.1
> > 8856~ 4st 2.0 Backup Justice
>

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8849 and 8850

[Madrid via agora-business]

*Voto A FAVOR de las Propuestas 8849 y 8850*

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:03 AM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I vote as follows (and have updated the spreadsheet):
>
> > 8849~   Murphy  1.0   No free lunch
>
> FOR
>
> > 8850*   Jason   3.0   Regulation of foreign fora
>
> PRESENT (should probably also include Discussion Fora)
>

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8837-8848

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR Proposal 8837

I then vote FOR on all other Proposals

On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 7:13 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> If you vote on a proposal, please edit this spreadsheet with your votes:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzzyipV-YFQwzRC-WxkOrOnjVLee-xH9NWC2ixf5K-8/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 7, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8837~   4st 1.0   Is this a hard decision?
> 8838~   Murphy  1.0   Kickstarter
> 8839*   4st 3.0   Not so hard decision
> 8840*   Jason   3.0   Cleanliness security
> 8841*   Jason, Aspen, Gaelan3.0   Spivak Standardization Act v2
> 8842~   Pilgore . . . [1]   2.0   Losing Focus
> 8843*   G., Jason, Murphy   4.0   Time B Safe
> 8844~   4st, Jason  2.0   Fix dreams
> 8845~   secretsnail 1.0   Onicers
> 8846~   secretsnail 1.0   The Cheepening
> 8847~   secretsnail, 4st2.0   Bird Powerup
> 8848~   4st 1.0   Goals
>
>
>
> [1] Pilgore, nix, Jason, Madrid
>
>
>
> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> Currently empty.
>
>
>
> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
> ~ : Ordinary proposal.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> the information shown above shall control.
>
>
> //
> ID: 8837
> Title: Is this a hard decision?
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s):
>
> When this proposal is adopted, each of the following occur in order,
> separately, if possible:
> 1. All players who voted AGAINST or conditionally on this proposal have
> their score set to 0
> 2. All players who voted AGAINST or conditionally on this proposal have
> their coins set to 0
> 3. All players who voted AGAINST or conditionally on this proposal have all
> stamps they own destroyed. 4. All players who voted AGAINST this proposal
> have any stones they own are transferred to Agora.
> 5. All players who voted AGAINST or conditionally on this proposal have any
> birds they own transferred to Agora.
> 6. Grant 4st 200 points.
> 7. Enact the following rule, title 'Voter protection' with power=1.0:
> {
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, proposals cannot affect players or
> their assets based on the way they have voted.
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, rules that affect players or their
> assets based on the way a player has voted cannot affect the proposal in
> which that rule is enacted.
> }
>
> //
> ID: 8838
> Title: Kickstarter
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: Murphy
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Each person who was a player when Rule 2668 (Horses) was enacted gains
> 10 dollaries.
>
>
> [Another thing tied to "when the race starts anew", but the enactment of
> these rules doesn't clearly qualify. The Registrar's report of August 14
> should be sufficient to identify who gains dollaries, as there were no
> registrations or deregistrations in between.]
>
>
> //
> ID: 8839
> Title: Not so hard decision
> Adoption Index: 3.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Create the following rule if it doesn't exist, with Title "Voter
> Protection" and power=3.0
> {
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, proposals cannot affect
> players' assets or players' scores based on the way they have voted.
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, rules that affect players' assets or
> players' scores based on the way a player has voted cannot affect the
> proposal in
> which that rule is enacted.
> }
> If a rule with the title "Voter Protection" already exists, amend it so
> that it matches the above rule, and set its power to 3.
>
> //
> ID: 8840
> Title: Cleanliness security
> Adoption Index: 3.0
> Author: Jason
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Amend Rule 2221 by appending the following paragraph:
>
> {
>
> Cleaning rules is secured. Refiling rules is secured.
>
> }
>
>
> [This is maybe arguably not necessary based on the exact wording of
> R2221, but better safe than sorry.]
>
> //
> ID: 

Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer has had visions of a dark future

[Madrid via agora-business]

I intend to ratify without objection the following: "Agora is not ossified."

On Thursday, August 18, 2022, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 8/17/22 20:07, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> > I intend to ratify without objection the following: "Agora is not
> ossified."
>
>
> I object.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer has had visions of a dark future

[Madrid via agora-business]

I intend to ratify without objection the following: "Agora is not ossified."

BUS: humble agoran farmer RFJs [attn. cuddlybanana]

[Madrid via agora-business]

I RFJ (Request for Justice
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Atk7oQTY3mkZukiiTLiG4d7MwB1rB_F1fXwAcykmavo/edit#gid=0)
the following: "Agora is a nomic"

I rolled in #bot-spam for who would be the judge, and rolled cuddlybanana.
You're up!

Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3985 assigned to Jason

[Madrid via agora-business]

This is fairly easily solvable by how Secretcash is intended to work (that
is, it's ultimately trust-based), but I'll do this anyways because I
disagree with the reasons put into the judgement itself.

I intend to Motion to Reconsider this Judgement with 2 Support, but I also
encourage the Judge to Reconsider this themselves.

The string isn't intended to be intelligible, or readable (it's Spanish in
heavy Andalusian slang, which is easy for me to produce to avoid dictionary
attacks. I also find it hilarious). It's just a string to unlock the
Promise, a password, and believe that's too obvious from context for the
Judge to not consider.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 1:54 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 8/15/22 21:33, Jason Cobb wrote:
> > On 8/15/22 21:21, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> >>> I cash this promise. The string, which consitutes no game actions, but
> when
> >>> SHA256 hashed gives the corresponding code, is (without the quotes):
> >>> "gilloo pa onde va tu que la feria ta pa lla"
> >>> --
> >>> 4st
> >>> Referee
> >> I CFJ: {This message caused a Madrid stamp to be created.}
> >>
> >> Arguments: that string is not "in the regular text format that is
> ubiquitous
> >> and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora”.
> >>
> >> Gaelan
> >
> > The above is CFJ 3985.
> >
> > I assign CFJ 3985 to Jason.
> >
>
> Judgement in CFJ 3985:
>
> {
>
> Judged trivially FALSE, since "this message" refers to the message in
> which the CFJ was called.
>
> However, I will still resolve the underlying controversy (whether the
> message quoted above the CFJ caused a Madrid stamp to be created).
>
> This would be judged trivially FALSE, since the promise would only
> transfer a stamp, rather than create one.
>
> However, I will still resolve the underlying controversy (whether the
> message quoted above the CFJ caused a Madrid stamp to be transferred).
>
> In order for a stamp to have been created, the string "gilloo pa
> onde va tu que la feria ta pa lla" must meet be "in the regular text
> format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora".
>
> There are two potential interpretations of what "text format" refers to:
> the literal encoding of the format (ASCII in this case), or the content
> (including semantics) of the message. I find that the latter is what
> applies: reasonable encoding is implicit in "string", and, if the
> creator of the promise meant the restriction solely to require the
> string to be valid ASCII (or UTF-8), e would have simply said so.
>
> Having determined that the requirement includes semantics, we must now
> determine whether the string in question meets the requirement. I find
> that it does not. Messages in English are what are common and ubiquitous
> in Agora, and the string is not readable as English. To the extent that
> our precedents permit machine-translatable uses of other languages (even
> though they are probably neither common nor ubiquitous), I have also
> attempted to run the string through Google Translate, which detects it
> as Spanish and translates it to English as "gilloo pa where are you
> going that the fair ta pa lla", which is also not intelligible.
>
> Thus, the string is not "in the regular text format that is ubiquitous
> and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora", so the cashing
> conditions were not satisfied, the promise was not cashed, and no stamp
> was transferred.
>
> This would be judged FALSE.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: (@Notary, @Collector) Promise Cashing

[Madrid via agora-business]

If that Promise still exists, I do the following: I revoke that Promise,
then I transfer 1 Ais Stamp to 4st.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 12:08 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:15 PM Madrid via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 6" and
> > transfer it to the Library:
> >
> > {
> > Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
> > message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
> > site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
> > "3bdd5d6d1fdaf1926502a6cee4244afd392852e8a82af945adfd2ef755cabd46". That
> > message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
> > format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.
> >
> > I transfer 1 Madrid Stamp from myself to the holder of this Promise.
> >
> > }
> >
>
> I cash this promise. The string, which consitutes no game actions, but when
> SHA256 hashed gives the corresponding code, is (without the quotes):
> "gilloo pa onde va tu que la feria ta pa lla"
> --
> 4st
> Referee
>

BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer makes Secretcash

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 4" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"80e700814e7b322d1d76a68333cfdc3b69e6d477c944c8273c9e213a5131013d". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 1 Madrid Stamp from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 5" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"53fc6bba152040595046d5fc74be123559890db1b7cf115a990810ca39b55b3a". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 1 Madrid Stamp from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 6" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"3bdd5d6d1fdaf1926502a6cee4244afd392852e8a82af945adfd2ef755cabd46". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 1 Madrid Stamp from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:57 PM Madrid  wrote:

> For when I want to transfer money to someone, but I don't want it to be
> public knowledge that I have.
>
> I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 1" and
> transfer it to the Library:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
> message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
> site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
> "921e7f1a46144591a8da4e955cf2e6488b2480ecee64ad85b2d3493a77af6150". That
> message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
> format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.
>
> I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.
>
> }
>
> I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 2" and
> transfer it to the Library:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
> message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
> site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
> "144120e447c88a3be7d5be40d316811a0d37246e44dc191a2c7459e607455d30". That
> message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
> format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.
>
> I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.
>
> }
>
> I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 3" and
> transfer it to the Library:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
> message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
> site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
> "e8a575178728f8918caf7938c2ef8b4b7cca16b93f84b1f0fce875b82912973b". That
> message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
> format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.
>
> I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.
>
> }
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer makes Secretcash

[Madrid via agora-business]

For when I want to transfer money to someone, but I don't want it to be
public knowledge that I have.

I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 1" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"921e7f1a46144591a8da4e955cf2e6488b2480ecee64ad85b2d3493a77af6150". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 2" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"144120e447c88a3be7d5be40d316811a0d37246e44dc191a2c7459e607455d30". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

I create the following Promise with the name "Madrid Secretcash 3" and
transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing conditions: The player that cashes this, in the same cashing
message, unambiguously posts the string that when SHA256 hashed (via this
site:https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256.html) gives this:
"e8a575178728f8918caf7938c2ef8b4b7cca16b93f84b1f0fce875b82912973b". That
message must be 200 characters or less long and be in the regular text
format that is ubiquitous and traditional for gameplay messages in Agora.

I transfer 5 Madrid Stamps from myself to the holder of this Promise.

}

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8829-8836

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all Proposals, from 8829 to 8836

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:34 PM juan via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> secretsnail9 via agora-official [2022-08-12 18:30]:
> > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> I vote as follows.
>
> 8829: AGAINST
> 8830: PRESENT
> 8831: PRESENT
> 8832: FOR
> 8833: FOR
> 8834: FOR
> 8835: PRESENT
> 8836: PRESENT
>
> --
> juan
>

Re: BUS: Oh btw, it's my agoran birthday

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I acknowledge nix's Agoran birthday.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 5:08 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> On 8/14/2022 10:22 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 14, 2022, at 10:19 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/14/22 15:51, nix via agora-business wrote:
> >>> I'm 9.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> nix
> >>> Collector, Herald, Registrar, Webmastor
> >>>
> >>
> >> Happy birthday!
> >>
> >> I acknowledge nix's Agoran birthday.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jason Cobb
> >>
> >
> > Happy 9th Agoran birthday, nix!
> >
> > I acknowledge nix's Agoran birthday.
>
> Happy Agoran Birthday nix!  ( <= acknowledgement).
>
> -G.
>
>

Re: BUS: I like winning (attn Dreamor)

[Madrid via agora-business]

As do I

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 10:07 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I plan to flip my Mindset to Dream of Victory.
>
> (@ me on Discord if you want to negotiate a change in this plan)
>

Re: BUS: @Horsened - gain dollaries

[Madrid via agora-business]

As do I

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 2:20 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I gain 4 dollaries.
>

Re: BUS: [cfj] Re: small contract test

[Madrid via agora-business]

grat arguments for TRUE:

- the transfer happened therefore there was a transfer
- i have more reasons that i cant tell you but that undeniably say that im
right.
- its in the best interests of the game for me to have more money.

On Thursday, August 11, 2022, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> [Just signalling the cfj in the subject line.  None of the actions below
> are re-performed].
>
> On 8/11/2022 11:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > On 8/11/2022 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree/consent to the following contract "Auto-Repeal Test":
> >> ---
> >>   1.  Only G. can join this.
> >>   2.  G. CAN transfer assets from this Contract by announcement;
> >>   on 11-Aug-2022 at 18:22:00 UTC, this line item is removed from
> this
> >>   contract.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> I transfer 1 coin to the above contract.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I transfer 1 coin from the above contract to Madrid.
> >
> > I call this CFJ:  G. transferred 1 coin from a contract to Madrid today.
> >
> >
> > Arguments
> >
> > I argue for FALSE.  Clause 2 of the contract, allowing me to make the
> > transfer, was deleted from the contract automatically via a time trigger
> > before I attempted the transfer.
> >
> > This is primarily a test of this part of Rule 1742/23:
> >>  Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any change that would cause
> >> the full provisions or parties of a contract to become publicly
> >> unavailable is canceled and does not take effect.
> >
> > I argue that the full provisions *were* publicly available by simple and
> > straightforward inference (of the current time and the published
> contract)
> > and so a separate publication wasn't needed to make the contract change.
> >
>

BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Blot Holdings

[Madrid via agora-business]

If they have a blot, I expunge a blot from cuddlybanana

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 8:33 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> All blot holdings are a little uncertain and therefore approximate due
> to infractions not being pointed out.
> --
>  GO TO JAIL
>  (Referee's Weekly Report)
>https://agoranomic.org/Referee/latest.txt
> --
> Date of this report: 08 August 2022
> Date of last report: 04 August 2022
> (all times UTC)
>
> BLOT HOLDINGS(self-ratifies)
> ==
> Blots  Person
> -  -
> 1  cuddlybanana
>
> INFRACTION HISTORY(does not self-ratify)
> ==
> Reporter  Infracter  DateInvestigated  Rewarded  Crime
>   -  --      -
> ss9[1]banana[2]  2022-08-04  Yes   Yes   R2143
>
> 1) secretsnail
> 2) cuddlybanana
>
> BLOT HISTORY  (does not self-ratify)
> ==
> PersonChange   DateReason
>   ---  --  
> cuddlybanana   +1  2022-08-04  Monthly Tardiness
> [TIME OF LAST REPORT]
> secretsnail-2  2022-07-18  Apology received and accepted
> secretsnail+2 (f)  2022-07-11  Violation of Rule 879
> ais523 -1  2022-06-19  Weekly self-expungement
> ais523 -1  2022-06-13  Weekly self-expungement
> ais523 +2  2022-06-12  Cabinet Order of Dive
> Shy Owl-1  2022-06-08  Expunged by G. (1 BBG in fees)
> R. Lee -2  2022-06-08  Expunged by G. (2 BBGs in fees)
> nix-2  2022-06-08  Expunged by G. (2 BBGs in fees)
> Jason  -2  2022-06-08  Expunged by G. (2 BBGs in fees)
> Cuddlybanana   -3  2022-06-08  Expunged by G. (3 BBGs in fees)
> Madrid -3  2022-06-06  Self-expunged (3 BBGs in fees)
> Juan   -1  2022-06-06  Self-expunged (1 BBG in fees)
> G. -2  2022-05-15  Expunged for 2 BBGs in fees
> Madrid +2  2022-05-15  Cabinet Order of Dive
> Jason  -1  2022-05-15  Expunged for 1 BBG in fees
> nix-3  2022-05-14  Expunged for 3 BBGs in fees
> Aspen  -1  2022-05-02  Expunged by G. for 1 BBG in fees
> Trigon -7  2022-05-02  Expunged by G. for 7 BBGs in fees
> R. Lee +2  2022-04-24  CHoJ: Failure to judge CFJ 3956
> secretsnail+0 (W)  2022-04-24  Unjustified Gesticulation
> nix+1 (f)  2022-04-10  CHoJ: Unjustified Gesticulation
> nix+0 (W)  2022-04-10  Unjustified Gesticulation
> secretsnail-3  2022-04-06  Expunged by G. for 3 BBGs in fees
> Trigon +1  2022-04-04  Levied via 2BBG fee via ais523
> secretsnail-2  2022-04-04  Apology for no registrar monthly
> secretsnail+2 (f)  2022-04-03  CHoJ: No registrar monthly in March
> Madrid +1  2022-04-01  Levied via 2BBG fee by G.
> Juan   +1  2022-04-01  Levied via 2BBG fee by G.
> Madrid -7  2022-04-01  expunged by Madrid for 7BBG fees
> Aspen  -2  2022-04-01  expunged by Aspen for 2BBG fees
> G. +1  2022-04-01  by announcement by G.
> Jason  +1  2022-04-01  Levied via 2BBG fee by G.
> secretsnail+1  2022-04-01  Levied via 2BBG fee by G.
> Aspen  +1  2022-04-01  Levied via 2BBG fee by G.
> Aspen  +1 (f)  2022-03-30  CHoJ: distributing unpended
> Trigon +2  2022-03-30  CHoJ: No Treasuror wkly 3/7 wk
> nix+2  2022-03-30  CHoJ: No Herald's weekly 3/7 wk
> Jason  +2  2022-03-27  CHoJ: No Rulekeepor Report 3/7 wk
> secretsnail+2  2022-03-18  Cabinet order of Dive
> nix-2  2022-03-16  Expunged with 2 BBGs
> ATMunn -6  2022-03-14  Expunged with 6 BBGs
> Aspen  +1 (f)  2022-02-11  CHoJ: No Promotor Report 2/28 wk
> ATMunn +2  2022-02-11  CHoJ: No Notary Report 2/28 wk
> ATMunn +2  2022-02-11  CHoJ: No Notary Report 2/21 wk
> Jason  -2  2022-02-05  Expunged with 2 BBGs
> Jason  +2  2022-02-28  Cabinet Order of Dive
> Murphy -1  2022-02-21  Apology
> Murphy +1 (f)  2022-02-18  CHOJ for late judgement (CFJ 3940)
> Cuddlybanana   +2  2022-02-18  CHoJ for late judgement (CFJ 3941)
> ATMunn +2 (f)  2022-02-07  CHoJ for late Notary Rep (Feb 24 week)
> nix+2  2022-02-02  CHoJ for late Herald's monthly (Jan)
> Trigon +1  2022-01-23  Blotted by G. via 2 BBG fee
> Trigo

BUS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Experiment 00046 - Intent to Invent

[Madrid via agora-business]

I object

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 9:52 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> MAD ENGINEER'S WEEKLY REPORT
>
> The Device is off.
>
>
> EXPERIMENT 00046 INTENT TO INVENT
>
> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Rule 2655 to amend the Rule "The
> Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
>
> {
>
> * If multiple devices attempt to define an entity with the same name,
> then they refer to the same entity. A device-defined entity's name
> CANNOT be changed to be the same as another device-defined entity's name.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: Webmastor Election

[Madrid via agora-business]

I FOR all

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 8/7/22 10:58, nix via agora-business wrote:
> > I intend, with 2 Agoran Support, to initiate an election for Webmastor
> > (and become a candidate to the election).
> >
> > --
> > nix
> > Herald, Registrar, Collector
> >
>
> I support.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer is shielded by ignorance, and toys with the device

[Madrid via agora-business]

Under penalty of No Faking, I have no idea if any of this works, and I
haven't bothered to check anything. I am in a privileged agnostic state of
not having a belief on whether this works or not.

I am protected by my ignorance and deliberate lack of study.


I grant a Welcome Device to all players.
I grant my Ministry Focus' Device to myself.

Re: (@Notary) BUS: Trading stamps

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp.

If the following causes me to gain 16 ais523 stamps, then I do the
following:

I transfer 16 Madrid stamps to ais523, then cash that Promise.

Thanks!

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:16 PM ais523 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant a promise with the following text to Madrid:
> {{{
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred 16 Madrid stamps to
> ais523, in the same message as and prior to cashing this Promise, and
> has not cashed any other Promises in the same message.
>
> Expiration conditions: It is 7 August 2022 or later.
>
> I transfer 16 ais523 stamps to the bearer.
> }}}
>
> --
> ais523
>
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer makes stamps

[Madrid via agora-business]

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

Whoa what a rush. But I need. More.

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

JWOOOUGH GODDAMNITY DAMN THAT'S THE STUFF.

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

I CAN FEEL THE POWER. I CAN SEE FOREVER

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

I HAVE SURPASSED TIME AND ALL DIMENSIONS

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

अस्तित्व से परे अस्तित्व से परे अस्तित्व से परे

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp
I pay 3 boatloads of coins to make 1 Madrid stamp

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8822-8828

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

On Monday, August 1, 2022, secretsnail9 via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> If you vote on a proposal, please edit this spreadsheet with your votes:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1uYY9KUbyCi0aqh7Ojrm5qKUN7IS
> OzMoixcbFsu7WQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> 
> ---
> 8822~   secretsnail, Murphy 1.0   Horse Racing
> 8823~   secretsnail 1.0   Bird Overhaul
> 8824~   secretsnail 1.0   Cleaning Sets Remnants
> 8825~   secretsnail, 4st1.0   Ticking Stone
> 8826~   secretsnail, 4st ...[1] 1.0   Dream of Wandering
> 8827~   4st, Nix2.0   Speckles
> 8828~   4st, Nix1.7   Speckle Penalty
>
>
> [1] secretsnail, 4st, nix, Madrid, Jason
>
> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> 
> ---
> Currently empty.
>
>
>
> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
> ! : Sponsored, Democratic proposal.
> ~ : Ordinary proposal.
> & : Sponsored, Ordinary proposal.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> the information shown above shall control.
>
>
> //
> ID: 8822
> Title: Horse Racing
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: secretsnail
> Co-authors: Murphy
>
>
> Enact a new rule with title "Horses" and the following text:
>
> {
>
> Horses are indestructible assets, ownable only by players and Agora. Any
> horses owned by the lost and found department are immediately transferred
> to Agora.
>
> Alexia, Baxter, Cannon, Destructor, Fargo, Nacho, Rubert, and Sugar are
> each a horse. These are their names.
>
> Dollaries (singular: dollary) are a fixed currency. Hooves (singular: hoof)
> are a fixed currency.
>
> The Horsened is an office and the recordkeepor of dollaries, hooves, and
> horses.
>
> Race Position is a Horse switch with possible values of the integers from 0
> (default) to 16, tracked by the Horsened.
>
> Race Place is a Horse switch with possible values of first, second, third,
> and none (default), tracked by the Horsened.
>
> A horse is Running if it has a Race Place of none.
>
> When the race starts anew, each horse's Race Position is set to 0, each
> horse's Race Place is set to none, all horses are transfered to Agora, all
> dollaries and hooves are destroyed, and each player receives 10 dollaries.
>
> }
>
>
> Enact a new rule with title "The Horses Run" and the following text:
>
> {
>
> The horses Run at the start of each week, unless the horses were not
> motivated within the last week.
>
> When the horses run, each player gains 1 hoof, movement resolves, and then
> if any horses have a Race Position of 16 and a Race Place of none, those
> horses cross the finish line in alphabetical order of their names.
>
> When a horse crosses the finish line:
>
> * If no horse has a Race Place of first, the horse's Race Place is set to
> first.
>
> * Otherwise, if no horse has a Race Place of second, the horse's Race Place
> is set to second.
>
> * Otherwise, the horse's Race Place is set to third and the race ends, and
> no horse can cross the finish line until the horses are next motivated.
>
> }
>
>
> Enact a new rule with title "Horse Victory" and the following text:
>
> {
>
> When the race ends, the following happen, in order:
>
> * the player that owns the horse with a Race Place of first gains 50
> dollaries.
>
> * the player that owns the horse with a Race Place of second gains 30
> dollaries.
>
> * the player that owns the horse with a Race Place of third gains 15
> dollaries.
>
> * For each horse, each player that got both a jersey and a helmet for that
> horse since the last time the race started anew gains 5 dollaries.
>
> * For each horse, each player gains a number of dollaries equal to that
> horse's current multiplier * the number of dollaries e bet on that horse
> since the last time the race started anew.
>
> * The score of the player that has the most dollaries is increased by 15.
> In the event of a tie, instead, no score change occurs.
>
> * The race starts anew.
>
> }
>
>
> Enact a new rule with title "Horse Multiplier" and the following text:
>
> {
>
> A horse's current multiplier is based on the following chart:
>
> 1, 2, 3: The horse's Race Place is first, second, or third, respectively.
> O: T

Re: (@Arbitor) (CFJ) BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8815-8821

[Madrid via agora-business]

Grat. Arguments:

- I don't English well and it making sense to me that they did what they
tried to doing. So they did it.
- My personal interpretation is more valid than yours.
- QED.

On Saturday, July 30, 2022, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 7/30/2022 12:01 AM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:46 AM ais523 via agora-business <
> > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> 8816~   secretsnail 3.05  No Duplication Allowed
> >> AGAINST, unnecessary and just clutters up the ruleset – this is already
> >> inherent in the meaning of the word "create"
> >>
> >
> > It's not inherent, that's why this needs to be clarified. Otherwise
> people
> > might not think so unless they happen to read some cfj, or end up causing
> > one. I thought we were trying to avoid that.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> 8817~   secretsnail 3.05  No Duplication Allowed
> >> CoE: This was not validly distributed because it was not in the
> >> proposal pool.
> >
> >
> > response to CoE: CFJ, barring ais523: the proposal listed above was
> > distributed.
>
> I favor this cfj.  After some discord discussion I realized my recent
> judgement and gratuitous arguments on this case weren't in harmony with
> immediately preceding precedent and it seems good to clarify.
>
> > Arguments FOR: The rules say I CAN do it, so creating the proposal should
> > have worked, and the distribution seems fine. There's no inherent
> inability
> > to create something that's already been created, and even if there was,
> the
> > rules still say you CAN do it which may override that, or maybe there's a
> > contradiction that arises because of this in the rules in which case the
> > Proposals rule may or may not take precedence. There's also the issue of
> > "the following proposal" not actually referring to a proposal, which may
> > make the "second creation" work as it isn't actually creating the same
> > proposal twice, but two separate proposals that have the following
> > attributes listed in the message of creation. I'm mainly calling this CFJ
> > because I want a more comprehensive argument than the last time this came
> > up in a CFJ, as that judgement left many points unaddressed, and there
> was
> > lengthy discussion afterwards that may be helpful for making this
> judgement
> > more complete.
> >
> >
> > Evidence:
> >
> > The purported double creation:
> >
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg43032.html
> >
> > Rule 2350/16 (Power=3)
> > Proposals
> >
> >   A proposal is a type of entity consisting of a body of text and
> >   other attributes. A player CAN create a proposal by announcement,
> >   specifying its text and optionally specifying any of the following
> >   attributes:
> >
> >   * An associated title.
> >
> >   * A list of coauthors (which must be persons other than the
> > author).
> >
> >   * An adoption index.
> >
> >   Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. Once a proposal
> >   is created, its text, author, and AI cannot be changed. The author
> >   (syn. proposer) of a proposal is the person who submitted it.
> >
> >   The author of a proposal in the Proposal Pool CAN remove (syn.
> >   retract, withdraw) it from the Pool by announcement.
> >
> > --
> > secretsnail
>

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8815-8821

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 4:16 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
>  wrote:
> >
> > On 7/24/22 20:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:56 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official
> > >  wrote:
> > >> 8821~   nix, Jason, secretsnail 3.0   More Intuitive Rule Changes
> > > Opinion of the rulekeepor sought:
> > >
> > > In all previous history, the phrase:
> > >
> > > "Retitle rule X to Y, and Amend it to read..." would be listed as two
> > > separate historical annotations in the FLR,  I'm quite concerned that
> > > changing this to:
> > >
> > > "Amed Rule X by retitling it Y and changing it to read..." would
> > > greatly obscure historical, reconstruction, as the amendment would be
> > > a single action (retitling and text change on a single line of
> > > history).
> > >
> > > Often, when looking at historical annotations to figure out which
> > > proposal changed what, retitles are milestones which signify
> > > significant change in the function of the rule.  Would this
> > > information be obscured/lost under this proposal?
> >
> >
> > I'd be inclined to record it as a single amendment, but I could
> > potentially include "amended (title)" or "amended (text/title)"?
> >
> > In any case that would require me to write more code *grumble grumble*.
>
> Thanks!  Yeah, I would personally prefer that retitling remain its own
> thing, maybe a way to do it while fixing the error potential is to add
> a parenthetical to the Retitle list item to note that "amend its title
> to" is synonymous with "retitle", and/or (if absolutely necessary,
> though I don't think it is) state that "amend the title of Rule N to X
> and its text to Y" is two sequential rule changes?
>

Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

[Madrid via agora-business]

I support.

On Saturday, July 16, 2022, secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a Motion to Reconsider CFJ 3978.
> (Or ais523 could just self-file and address this which would be cool.)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:52 PM ais523 via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The text used by the author was "81 times, I submit the following
> > proposal:". The meaning of "the following proposal" seems fairly clear
> > that it refers to only a single proposal, so this was an attempt to
> > submit one proposal multiple times.
> >
>
> This assumption fails to consider a clearly possible reading: it was an
> attempt to submit a proposal with the following attributes 81 times, not
> submit the same proposal 81 times. The method supports this:
>
> by announcement,
>   specifying its text and optionally specifying any of the following
>   attributes:
>
>   * An associated title.
>
>   * A list of coauthors (which must be persons other than the
> author).
>
>   * An adoption index.
>
> The "proposal" I had included was not really a proposal at all, it was me
> specifying the proposal's text and other attributes. In essence, I claim "I
> submit the following proposal" is just shorthand for "I submit a proposal
> with the following attributes", just as Jason had used, and which you ruled
> to have worked.
>
>
> >
> > a) For proposals, "create" and "submit" are synonyms.
> >
> > b) "Creating" and "submitting" a proposal are two different actions,
> > the latter action being impossible because there's no mechanism to
> > perform it.
> >
> > The only difference between these two readings is how the proposal's
> > author is defined; in reading a), a proposal's author is its creator;
> > in reading b), proposals have no author (but the proposal system
> > otherwise works correctly). I can't see anything in the rules that
> > implies that proposals have to have an author (rule 107 requires the
> > Promotor to specify a proposal's author when distributing it, but it
> > seems like that requirement could be satisfied by saying "this proposal
> > has no author" – it's clearly possible to have a proposal with no
> > coauthors, and those can be distributed), and past CFJs (e.g. CFJ 1780)
> > have found that there are situations in which proposals with no author
> > can exist.
> >
> > Reading a) clearly wins a rule 217 tie-break, but I'm not sure it's
> > actually consistent with the wording of the rules; it may be that we
> > have to go with the absurd reading b) because anything else would
> > violate the literal text of the rules. I think that reading a) is
> > legitimate because "submit" is effectively defined as "become an author
> > of" (because "author" is defined as "person who submitted"), and a
> > proposal's author cannot be changed after creation, so the only way to
> > submit a proposal (i.e. become the author of one) is to create it. This
> > is a little tortured, though, and so I wouldn't be surprised if another
> > judge found differently.
> >
>
> This all seems fine.
>
>
>
> > If submitting a proposal is a
> > synonym for creating it, trying to create the same proposal 81 times is
> > something that goes against the plain meaning of "create" – creating
> > something causes it to exist, so you can't create something that
> > already exists.
>
>
> This is my main issue with the judgement; it seems perfectly fine to create
> something multiple times in natural language. We do that all the time with
> coins, which are fungible, we create something that already exists. But
> importantly, even if it was against natural language, it's still defined as
> possible in the rules.
>
>
> Rule 2350 (Proposals)
>
> A player CAN create a proposal by announcement,
>   specifying its text and optionally specifying any of the following
>   attributes:
>
> So we can't just say you can't do it because of the "plain meaning",
> especially when that meaning is contested. If I had used the word "create"
> instead of "submit", I would have expected it to work just the same.
>
>
>
> > If submitting a proposal isn't a synonym for creating
> > it, then proposals can't be "submitted" because there's no mechanism to
> > do so (and the message didn't succed in creating the same proposal 81
> > times, either), but this doesn't break the game because in taht
> > reading, "submitting" proposals isn't a required step in adopting them.
> >
>
> This is fine too.
>
>
> >
> > I issue a claim of error against the Promotor's attempted initiation,
> > on 10 or 11 July 2022, of Agoran Decisions as to whether to adopt
> > "proposal 8725" to "proposal 8804" inclusive – these initiations did
> > not occur because the proposals in question did not exist and/or were
> > not in the Proposal Pool, so there was no mechanism via which they
> > could have been made.
> >
>
> I cite CFJ 3978.
>
>
> >
> > 
> >
> > > > CFJ:

BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is curious about ancient Proposals

[Madrid via agora-business]

Fuck me lmao. Is this what I get for posting in the morning?

I withdraw all CFJs in that previous message. I then CFJ: My coin balance
is now 6805

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 7:11 AM Madrid  wrote:

> I withdraw that CFJ, I then CFJ: I CFJ: My coin balance is now 6805
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 7:10 AM Madrid  wrote:
>
>> I create the following contract called 'Relevance Forcer':
>>
>> "Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin to this contract by announcement.
>>
>> If proposal 305 has an AI, Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin from this contract
>> to themselves by announcement."
>>
>> I then transfer 1 coin to Relevance Forcer, twice. I then transfer 1 coin
>> from Relevance Forcer to myself via the power given to me by the last
>> paragraph of that contract.
>>
>> I CFJ: My coin balance is now 680
>>
>> Thanks to G for helping me out with drafting this.
>>
>

BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is curious about ancient Proposals

[Madrid via agora-business]

I withdraw that CFJ, I then CFJ: I CFJ: My coin balance is now 6805

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 7:10 AM Madrid  wrote:

> I create the following contract called 'Relevance Forcer':
>
> "Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin to this contract by announcement.
>
> If proposal 305 has an AI, Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin from this contract
> to themselves by announcement."
>
> I then transfer 1 coin to Relevance Forcer, twice. I then transfer 1 coin
> from Relevance Forcer to myself via the power given to me by the last
> paragraph of that contract.
>
> I CFJ: My coin balance is now 680
>
> Thanks to G for helping me out with drafting this.
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer is curious about ancient Proposals

[Madrid via agora-business]

I create the following contract called 'Relevance Forcer':

"Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin to this contract by announcement.

If proposal 305 has an AI, Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin from this contract to
themselves by announcement."

I then transfer 1 coin to Relevance Forcer, twice. I then transfer 1 coin
from Relevance Forcer to myself via the power given to me by the last
paragraph of that contract.

I CFJ: My coin balance is now 680

Thanks to G for helping me out with drafting this.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8683-8695

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:10 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:56 PM secretsnail9 via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> >
> ---
> > 8683&   Murphy, ais523  3.0   Weekly privileges
> >
>
> Conditional: FOR if at least 4 other votes on this proposal's referendum
> are unconditionally FOR, otherwise AGAINST.
>
>
> > 8684~   nix 2.0   Score Gameplay Expansion
> >
>
> AGAINST
>
>
> > 8685&   G.  1.0   auto-birthday
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8686~   Murphy  3.0   Put a sock in it
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8687~   secretsnail 1.0   Might as well
> >
>
> FOR
>
> 8688~   secretsnail, Madrid 1.0   Totally Normal Rule
> >
>
> FOR
>
> 8689~   secretsnail 1.0   Exceptional
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8690~   secretsnail 1.0   Actual Bird Fix
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8691~   secretsnail 1.0   Budgie
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8692~   secretsnail 1.0   Canary and Crow
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8693~   secretsnail 1.0   I just win in this one
> >
>
> FOR
>
>
> > 8694~   secretsnail 1.0   Destruction
> >
>
> AGAINST
>
>
> > 8695~   secretsnail 1.0   Creation
> >
>
> FOR
>
> is how i vote.
>
>
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: Betrayer's Guild

[Madrid via agora-business]

I think this could work but it's going to require unanimity, because
otherwise it's just too strong to not be in the Guild and reap the benefits
of still being able to make deals effectively to outpace opponents that
happen to be in the Guild.

I'll join the Guild if enough activate players are already in the Guild or
make commitments similar to this one.

BUS: humble agoran farmer farts into the dogwhistle

[Madrid via agora-business]

This is the epic moment you've all been waiting for. Gamers, rise, it is
now that we take over Agora with dank conlanging and uny descluemar,
cindeteinul cluosa, ir ithar qoulefear uttuchad ti u stutamant cinstetotas.

I hereby, by announcement, miko i pebluc stitomont thit us i luo.

Stotmunt as o lau af ats piblashur uathur knuw er bulauvud at te bu net
triu ot thu tamu u piblashud a.

Furthermore, tha praveios priveseins if thes rola nitwethstundeng, u firmul
unnioncamant if entant es navar u lea.

Checkmate, atheists.

BUS: humble agoran farmer doesnt know whats going on but they have responsibilities

[Madrid via agora-business]

If any ongoing referenda exist, I hereby vote FOR on all of them.

BUS: humble agoran farmer becomes pure. innocent. kawaii.

[Madrid via agora-business]

h-hewwo everyone <3

I claim a Justice Card, according to my Focus.

I pay a set of 4 Justice cards to gain 10 BBGs.

For each Blot that I have, I pay 1 BBG to expunge it if I can. (I have 3
Blots atm).

ty!!! love and kisses!!! \(>u<)/

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election update

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote for secretsnail in all current elections

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 4:32 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:57 PM nix via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On 5/14/22 19:11, nix via agora-business wrote:
> > >>* Prime Minister - candidates are G., Jason, Murphy, nix,
> secretsnail
> >
> >
> I vote [secretsnail, nix]
>
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: Voting

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote for secretsnail there too

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 4:10 AM Skull cat via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>  I vote secretsnail in the Prime Minister Election
>
> Quack quack
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer calls for a cfj AND wonders about things

[Madrid via agora-business]

i cfj this: "The game of Agora exists AND the game of Agora has rules AND I
am a player in the game of Agora AND I have some natural number amount of
coins"

BUS: humble agoran farmer saves for the future

[Madrid via agora-business]

hi agora i do these actions ok

i invoke the Stamp Servitude contract, and I Mint a Stamp twice (this
transfers 3 boatloads of coins from myself to secretsnail, causes ss to
make a stamp via acting on behalf, then causes ss to transfer that stamp to
me via acting on behalf)

---
some data for easier auditing of what im doing:

30 April 2022 [23:56] snail: -1200cn (Transfer Madrid x4)
18 April 2022 [17:32] snail: -300cn (Transfer Madrid)
18 April 2022 [17:32] snail: -300cn (Transfer Madrid)
11 April 2022 [00:21] snail: -300cn (Transfer Madrid)

by my count, my Noble has printed 7 stamps in my name, which allows me to
mint 7 * 0.3 = aprox 2 stamps in their name, so this should all be kosher

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8675-8677

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:18 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> I vote:
>
> >
> ---
> > 8675&   secretsnail 1.0   Let's make it clear
> AGAINST
>
> > 8676&   secretsnail 1.0   Let's make it entirely clear
> FOR
>
> > 8677&   G.  1.0   Endgame
> ENDORSE the Treasuror.
>
> -G.
>
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer does the focus claim thing (why isn't this automatic like pay days?)

[Madrid via agora-business]

Ok so if it works, I do the following: per my focus, I grant myself a
Justice Card, okie dokie?

BUS: humble agoran farmer stays alive

[Madrid via agora-business]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c

haha you cant dereg me

i intend to declare apathy btw, specifying myself

Re: (@Rulekeepor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

[Madrid via agora-business]

For each player, I grant a Welcome Device to them.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:49 AM ais523 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2022-04-17 at 18:11 +0100, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> > The Device is on.
> >
> > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When
> > the device is off:" list:
> > {{{
> > Any player CAN grant a Welcome Device to any player if the
> > grantee has neither received one since e last registered nor in
> > the last 30 days.
> > }}}
>
> With Agoran Consent, I do so. (Jason supported; there were no
> objections.)
>
> --
> ais523
> Mad Engineer
>
>

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8667-8668

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all of these Proposals

On Sunday, April 17, 2022, Aspen via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> 
> ---
> 8667&   G.  1.0   welcome fix
> 8668&   G.  1.0   a light on darkness
>
>
> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>
> Author(s)   AITitle
> 
> ---
> Jason   1.7   No finger pointing on behalf
>
>
> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
> & : Ordinary proposal.
> ~ : Unsponsored proposal.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> the information shown above shall control.
>
> //
> ID: 8667
> Title: welcome fix
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: G.
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Amend Rule 2499 (Welcome Packages) by replacing:
> Any player CAN grant
> with:
> Any player CAN, by announcement, grant
>
> //
> ID: 8668
> Title: a light on darkness
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: G.
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Repeal Rule 2617 (Defense Against the Dark Arts).
>
> //
> Title: No finger pointing on behalf
> Adoption index: 1.7
> Author: Jason
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Amend Rule 2478 by replacing "A player CAN by announcement Point eir
> Finger" with "A player, acting as emself, CAN by announcement Point eir
> Finger".
>
> //
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer knows the drill

[Madrid via agora-business]

the lists are kinda dead so

i intend to declare apathy, specifying myself

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer wants to confirm [attn. Tailor]

[Madrid via agora-business]

Alright, I destroy Glitter Grifting

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:31 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> On 4/13/2022 12:36 AM, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> > This gave me a stupid idea that likely doesn't work but I will try it
> > anyways.
> >
> > I create the following contract called 'Glitter Grifting':
> > {
> > Any player CAN by announcement Award themselves X Glitter, where X is any
> > adjective of the following list: {Red, Orange, Green, Emerald, Cyan,
> Blue,
> > Magenta, Ultraviolet, Violet, Indigo, Platinum, Lime, White, Black,
> > Transparent, Gray}. To do so is the following sequence of actions:
> > - Join this Contract
> > - Transfer all of your Coins to Madrid
> > - Leave this Contract
> > }
>
> This is basically stopped by Rule 2519; that is, you can't consent by
> saying magic hidden contract words "unknowingly".  An attempt to join
> using trigger words would be governed by:
>
>   4. it is reasonably clear from context that e wanted the action to
>  take place or assented to it taking place.
>
> And "context" is the keyword here - if you just claim glitter because you
> think glitter is still in the rules, the message context would make it
> clear you don't consent.  If you claim glitter while citing this contract
> (and no other disclaimers etc.), you probably join.  It's slippery like
> all language of course - if enough people actually joined (citing the
> contract) it could become slang enough to work on it's own.  Not now,
> though.
>
> -G.
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer auctions 4 Winsomes

[Madrid via agora-business]

wow this is super late of me, but this is over!

I transfer 4 winsomes to Juan, as the winner of the auction!

On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:29 PM Juan F. Meleiro via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> Also, I object to any apathy intents in thid message.
>
> Just to be safe (and lazy).
>
> On April 4, 2022 11:12:47 AM GMT-03:00, Madrid via agora-discussion <
> agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >Hehasbidfourdoessomeonegivemoredoessomeonegivemore?
>
> >Thatsrightheisonfourbutletshearfivedoihearfivethatsfourplusonefiveifidonthearanyfivethenheisgonnatakeitforfourdoihearfiveormaybeevensixdoihearsixoutthereinthecrowd,thatsrightyoucangetthesefourthickwinsomesforjustsevenfavorlevelsdoihearsevenfavorlevelsforsevenfavorlevelsyougetthesewinsomes
> >
> >On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 9:29 AM ais523 via agora-business <
> >agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 15:11 +0200, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> >> > Hi, this is an informal auction, and you bid with favors instead of
> >> actual
> >> > money.
> >> >
> >> > You bid should be a favor level, being a favor level of 10 one session
> >> of a
> >> > couple hours, like to theorycraft something or to design something
> >> complex.
> >> > A favor level of 1 is something like a small tip or some pocket
> change of
> >> > the currency at the time the favor is decided to be cashed in.
> >> >
> >> > Its not very exact but I trust that the participants will be
> satisfying
> >> but
> >> > reasonable, and I will too strive to be satisfying but reasonable with
> >> the
> >> > system.
> >> >
> >> > Minimum bid increment is 1, first bid is a minimum of 1!
> >>
> >> I bid 4.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ais523
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> juan
>

Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer wants to confirm [attn. Tailor]

[Madrid via agora-business]

This gave me a stupid idea that likely doesn't work but I will try it
anyways.

I create the following contract called 'Glitter Grifting':
{
Any player CAN by announcement Award themselves X Glitter, where X is any
adjective of the following list: {Red, Orange, Green, Emerald, Cyan, Blue,
Magenta, Ultraviolet, Violet, Indigo, Platinum, Lime, White, Black,
Transparent, Gray}. To do so is the following sequence of actions:
- Join this Contract
- Transfer all of your Coins to Madrid
- Leave this Contract
}

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 9:08 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:17 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On 4/10/22 23:40, Jason Cobb wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I assign the following judgement in CFJ 3952:
> > >
> >
> > I award myself blue glitter for this judgement.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Cobb
> >
> > Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
> >
>
> I think this fails because glitter does not exist.
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: (@Notary) More Promise Experiments...

[Madrid via agora-business]

I cash in that Promise

On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 12:40 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant Madrid the following promise:
> {
> I vote as follows.
>
> >8665*   nix, Jason, ais523  3.0   Promise Expirations 1.1
>
> FOR
>
> >8666&   snail, nix  1.0   The Secretarybird
>
> FOR
>
>
> }
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: (@Notary) Acquiring a Serf

[Madrid via agora-business]

I leave all Contracts which have me as Serf.

I then join this contract called "Stamp Servitude"

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 2:41 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I create, consent to, and join the following Contract called "Stamp
> Servitude":
> {
> Madrid and Secretsnail can join and leave this contract by announcement.
> While both are members
> of this contract, Madrid is the Serf, and Secretsnail is the Noble.
>
> The Noble CAN Mint a Stamp. The Serf CAN Mint a Stamp, but only up to as
> many times as the Noble has Minted Stamps, divided by 3, rounded down;
> unless the Noble consents to otherwise. When the Noble Mints a Stamp, the
> Other is the Serf. When the Serf Mints a Stamp, the Other is the Noble.
>
> To Mint a Stamp is to perform the following sequence of actions:
> - Transfer 3 Boatloads of Coins from yourself to the Other.
> - Act on behalf of the Other to have the Other pay 3 Boatloads of Coins to
> create 1 Stamp of the Other's Type.
> - Act on behalf of the Other to have the Other transfer 1 Stamp of the
> Other's Type to yourself.
>
> The Serf SHALL NOT transfer Stamps of the Noble's Type to any other entity,
> unless the Noble consents to it.
>
> The Serf CAN act on behalf of the Noble to cast a vote of FOR onto a
> Proposal which, if successful, will cause the Serf to win the game. The
> Noble SHALL NOT change eir vote if eir vote has been cast in this way.
>
> Parties CANNOT and SHALL NOT scam this contract. If they somehow manage to
> do so despite it being impossible, it is the class 2 crime of breaking
> reality.
> }
> --
> secretsnail
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer becomes a serf of stampitude

[Madrid via agora-business]

I create the following Contract called "Stamp Serf":
{
Only Madrid and Secretsnail can join this contract. While both are members
of this contract, Madrid is the Serf, and Secretsnail is the Noble.

The Noble CAN Mint a Stamp. The Serf CAN Mint a Stamp, but only up to as
many times as the Noble as Minted Stamps, divided by 3, rounded down;
unless the Noble consents to otherwise. When the Noble Mints a Stamp, the
Other is the Serf. When the Serf Mints a Stamp, the Other is the Noble.

To Mint a Stamp is to perform the following sequence of actions:
- Transfers 3 Boatloads of Coins from yourself to the Other.
- Act on behalf of the Other to have the Other pay 3 Boatloads of Coins to
create 1 Stamp of the Other's Type.
- Act on behalf of the Other to have the Other transfer 1 Stamp of the
Other's Type to yourself.

The Serf SHALL NOT transfer Stamps of the Noble's Type to any other entity,
unless the Noble consents to it.

The Serf CAN act on behalf of the Noble to cast a vote of FOR onto a
Proposal which, if successful, will cause the Serf to win the game. The
Noble SHALL NOT change their vote if their vote has been cast in this way.

All parties to this contract cease to be parties when 365 days have passed
since this contract's creation.
}

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] April Stone Auction

[Madrid via agora-business]

I bid 2 coins in each lot

On Thursday, April 7, 2022, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 4/7/22 12:28, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> > Pursuant to Rule 2642, I initiate a stone auction with the following
> > lots: [Soul Stone], [Sabotage Stone].
>
>
> I bid 1 coin on each lot.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer does some experiments

[Madrid via agora-business]

also, before i forgetti:

i transfer 1 coin to secretsnail, i then transfer 2 coins to secretsnail

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:36 PM Madrid  wrote:

> I CFJ: I have pledged "I shall transfer to someone 2 coins between now and
> a month from now" within the last 10 minutes.
>
> I CFJ: I have transferred exactly 2 coins to someone within the last 10
> minutes.
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:33 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:57 PM Madrid via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I'd like to know how Promises are supposed to work with some CfJs, so
>> I'm
>> > doing to make some for experimental purposes since I don't want the
>> CfJs to
>> > just be DISMISSED.
>> >
>> > I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
>> > {
>> > Cashing Conditions: None
>> >
>> > Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some
>> kind,
>> > then Madrid transfers to them 1 coin, otherwise, Madrid transfers to
>> them 2
>> > coins.
>> > }
>> >
>> > I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
>> > {
>> > Cashing Conditions: None
>> >
>> > Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some
>> kind,
>> > then Madrid Pledges the following: "I shall transfer to someone 1 coin
>> > between now and a month from now", otherwise, Madrid Pledges "I shall
>> > transfer to someone 2 coins between now and a month from now".
>> > }
>> >
>>
>> I take the first promise above from the library and cash it.
>>
>> I take the second promise above from the library and cash it.
>>
>> --
>> secretsnail
>>
>

Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer does some experiments

[Madrid via agora-business]

I CFJ: I have pledged "I shall transfer to someone 2 coins between now and
a month from now" within the last 10 minutes.

I CFJ: I have transferred exactly 2 coins to someone within the last 10
minutes.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:33 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:57 PM Madrid via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to know how Promises are supposed to work with some CfJs, so I'm
> > doing to make some for experimental purposes since I don't want the CfJs
> to
> > just be DISMISSED.
> >
> > I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
> > {
> > Cashing Conditions: None
> >
> > Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some kind,
> > then Madrid transfers to them 1 coin, otherwise, Madrid transfers to
> them 2
> > coins.
> > }
> >
> > I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
> > {
> > Cashing Conditions: None
> >
> > Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some kind,
> > then Madrid Pledges the following: "I shall transfer to someone 1 coin
> > between now and a month from now", otherwise, Madrid Pledges "I shall
> > transfer to someone 2 coins between now and a month from now".
> > }
> >
>
> I take the first promise above from the library and cash it.
>
> I take the second promise above from the library and cash it.
>
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: (@Notary) Some Light Dark Arts

[Madrid via agora-business]

I leave that contract too

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:18 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 1:15 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I create, consent to, and join the following contract, title "Light Dark
> > Arts":
> >
> > {
> > nix, ATMunn, Madrid, and secretsnail can join and leave this contract by
> > announcement.
> >
> > ATMunn CAN act on behalf of Madrid to cash the promise with text "nix
> > ossifies Agora."
> >
> > }
> >
> > I transfer the promise with text "nix ossifies Agora." to Madrid.
> >
> > --
> > secretsnail
> >
>
> I leave this contract.
>
> --
> secretsnail
>

Re: BUS: (@Notary) Some Light Dark Arts

[Madrid via agora-business]

I pull over a dark hood over my head, turn on some candles and join that
contract.

DUN DUN DN

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:15 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I create, consent to, and join the following contract, title "Light Dark
> Arts":
>
> {
> nix, ATMunn, Madrid, and secretsnail can join and leave this contract by
> announcement.
>
> ATMunn CAN act on behalf of Madrid to cash the promise with text "nix
> ossifies Agora."
>
> }
>
> I transfer the promise with text "nix ossifies Agora." to Madrid.
>
> --
> secretsnail
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer does some experiments

[Madrid via agora-business]

I'd like to know how Promises are supposed to work with some CfJs, so I'm
doing to make some for experimental purposes since I don't want the CfJs to
just be DISMISSED.

I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
{
Cashing Conditions: None

Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some kind,
then Madrid transfers to them 1 coin, otherwise, Madrid transfers to them 2
coins.
}

I create the following Promise and transfer it to the Library:
{
Cashing Conditions: None

Text: If the person who cashes in this Promise has a Degree of some kind,
then Madrid Pledges the following: "I shall transfer to someone 1 coin
between now and a month from now", otherwise, Madrid Pledges "I shall
transfer to someone 2 coins between now and a month from now".
}

BUS: humble agoran farmer wants to confirm

[Madrid via agora-business]

I CfJ: It is possible to make someone else cast a vote of your choice via
acting on behalf.

BUS: humble agoran farmer offers a Stamp trade

[Madrid via agora-business]

I create the following Promise and then I transfer it to the Library:

{
Cashing Conditions: The bearer has transferred to Madrid 1 Stamp of a Type
that isn't Madrid in the same message as they cash in this Promise, and
they don't cash in any other Promise in that same message.

Madrid transfers to the bearer 1 Stamp of Type Madrid.
}

BUS: humble agoran farmer prints a stamp

[Madrid via agora-business]

I pay 3 boatloads of coins to create 1 Stamp of type Madrid.

BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer does some business [Attn. Nix]

[Madrid via agora-business]

I transfer that Promise to nix

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 11:48 AM Madrid  wrote:

> I join the Vote Proxies contract described here:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg42237.html
>
> I create the following Promise:
> {
> Cashing Conditions: There are three, which are the following:
> - Madrid has gained 5 Vote Proxies with nix as their creater in the same
> message as the bearer cashes this Promise.
> - The bearer has not cashed any other Promises in the message that they
> cash in this Promise.
> - No more than 1 week (7 x 24 hours) has passed since the creation of this
> Promise.
>
> Madrid transfers to the bearer 1 Win Card, 1 Pendant, and 4 Votices
> }
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer does some business [Attn. Nix]

[Madrid via agora-business]

I join the Vote Proxies contract described here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg42237.html

I create the following Promise:
{
Cashing Conditions: There are three, which are the following:
- Madrid has gained 5 Vote Proxies with nix as their creater in the same
message as the bearer cashes this Promise.
- The bearer has not cashed any other Promises in the message that they
cash in this Promise.
- No more than 1 week (7 x 24 hours) has passed since the creation of this
Promise.

Madrid transfers to the bearer 1 Win Card, 1 Pendant, and 4 Votices
}

BUS: humble agoran farmer does this just in case

[Madrid via agora-business]

 Be X my amount of blots, I perform the following X times:

If I have 1 BBG, I then I pay 1 BBG to expunge 1 blot.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer wonders if they were a robot all along

[Madrid via agora-business]

Oh, yeah, I mean that second one. OK, I retract my latest CfJ

On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 10:40 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> On 4/1/2022 1:00 PM, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> > I CfJ: An action by announcement can be performed by reasonable automated
> > means, like for example, via a bot that bridges between Discord and the
> > action-doer's own email.
>
> I'm confused at the for-example, because Discord <-> action-doer's email
> doesn't involve a public forum?
>
> We've been pretty accepting (like it's "trivially true") about automated
> systems that reach the public forum in general though - like a cron job
> sending an email works?
>
> -G.
>
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer wonders if they were a robot all along

[Madrid via agora-business]

I CfJ: An action by announcement can be performed by reasonable automated
means, like for example, via a bot that bridges between Discord and the
action-doer's own email.

BUS: humble agoran farmer auctions 4 Winsomes

[Madrid via agora-business]

Hi, this is an informal auction, and you bid with favors instead of actual
money.

You bid should be a favor level, being a favor level of 10 one session of a
couple hours, like to theorycraft something or to design something complex.
A favor level of 1 is something like a small tip or some pocket change of
the currency at the time the favor is decided to be cashed in.

Its not very exact but I trust that the participants will be satisfying but
reasonable, and I will too strive to be satisfying but reasonable with the
system.

Minimum bid increment is 1, first bid is a minimum of 1!

BUS: humble agoran farmer does the blot things

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I do the following if I have 4 Justice Cards: {I cash in a set of 4
Justice Cards to gain 10 Blot-be-gones}

I do the following if I have 3 Justice Cards: {I cash in a set of 3 Justice
Cards to gain 6 Blot-be-gones}

I do the following if I have at least as many blot-be-gones as my amount of
blots: {I pay X blot-be-gones to expunge X blots from myself, where X is my
current amount of blots}

If I have at least 1 blot-be-gone, I do the following: {I transfer 1
blot-be-gone to Aspen}

BUS: humble agoran farmer prepares for the worst

[Madrid via agora-business]

I do the following if it would cause me to gain a Justice Card: using my
Focus, I grant myself a Justice Card.

BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer creates the yellow press

[Madrid via agora-business]

I leave that contract. I thought there was a dumb scam, turns out its just
me that's dumb

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 6:11 PM Madrid  wrote:

> I create the following contract called "THE SUFFUSION OF YELLOW"
> {
> Any player can join or leave this contract.
>
> One or no player is the Yellow Reportor of the SUFFUSION OF YELLOW, whose
> weekly report shall contain information about 5 (or more) players that
> requires unreasonable effort to obtain in whole or part.
>
> Any member of this contract can become the Yellow Reportor by
> announcement, which revokes the previous one of this title, if they exist.
> }
>
> I become the Yellow Reportor for the Suffusion of Yellow
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer creates the yellow press

[Madrid via agora-business]

I create the following contract called "THE SUFFUSION OF YELLOW"
{
Any player can join or leave this contract.

One or no player is the Yellow Reportor of the SUFFUSION OF YELLOW, whose
weekly report shall contain information about 5 (or more) players that
requires unreasonable effort to obtain in whole or part.

Any member of this contract can become the Yellow Reportor by announcement,
which revokes the previous one of this title, if they exist.
}

I become the Yellow Reportor for the Suffusion of Yellow

Re: (@Treasuror) BUS: Focusing

[Madrid via agora-business]

oop, it should be this, i derped from ad libbing it :

I perform the following if it would net me some kind of Card: {
   For each possible kind of Card (be that kind of Card, X), I perform the
following if it would net me some kind of card: {
  Using my Focus, I grant myself a X Card
   }
}

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 10:46 PM Madrid  wrote:

> I perform the following if it would net me some kind of Card: {
>For each possible kind of Card (be that kind of Card, X), I perform the
> following: {
>   Using my Focus, I grant myself a X Card
>}
> }
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM ais523 via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> Using my Focus, I grant myself a Justice Card.
>>
>> --
>> ais523
>>
>>

Re: (@Treasuror) BUS: Focusing

[Madrid via agora-business]

I perform the following if it would net me some kind of Card: {
   For each possible kind of Card (be that kind of Card, X), I perform the
following: {
  Using my Focus, I grant myself a X Card
   }
}

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM ais523 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> Using my Focus, I grant myself a Justice Card.
>
> --
> ais523
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer t-poses

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I vote FOR all ongoing referenda

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 4:55 AM secretsnail9 via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 5:33 PM Madrid via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > i vote FOR all pending proposals
> >
>
> Your votes might not work so you should probably redo them.
> --
> secretsnail
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer t-poses

[Madrid via agora-business]

i vote FOR all pending proposals

i support all currently pending intents

i intend to declare apathy, specifying myself

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] February Stone Auction

[Madrid via agora-business]

I bid 51 on the same

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:02 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I bid 50 coins on both lots.
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer does the thing

[Madrid via agora-business]

I do the thing.

You might think that I don't, but that doesn't change that I do in fact, do
the thing. The thing is done. I did it. The thing. There is no turning
back, there is no more thing that is not-done.

What thing? Yes, that thing. No, not that thing. *That* thing. Yeah, that
one. The thing.

I see you stare in awe, I would too, had I not done the thing and have only
been a spectator to the doing of the thing. But evidence says otherwise,
that the thing, has been did, by me.

Re: BUS: Agriculture (@Farmest, @Orchardoror)

[Madrid via agora-business]

I PLANT POTATOES

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:13 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I PLANT POTATOES.
>
> I PLANT A TREE of fruit type watermelon. I PICK FRUIT.
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer jiggles

[Madrid via agora-business]

This is a test, of possibly several, to check the viability of explicitly
trying every action sequence possible up to a certain length with a
conditional tagged onto it to try to brute force scams that have the only,
sole effect of being beneficial to me or do nothing. Conditionals are
really powerful for this kind of thing!

The technique would rely on making *several* failed actions. But because of
the conditional tagged onto each sequence, only sequences that end up doing
what I want would end up actually happening. Or just nothing happens.

If this sequence of actions would cause me to win the game, then I do the
following: I join the contract Obstructive Pooling, then I vote FOR all
Proposals, then I leave the contact Obstructive Pooling.

I Point a Finger at myself, Madrid, for breaching No Faking for making a
public statement that is a lie with the previous paragraph.

Re: BUS: Re: [@Treasuror] Quang!

[Madrid via agora-business]

I gain 1 Justice Card from my Focus Grant

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:43 PM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> El 12/01/2022 a las 18:27, Trigon escribió:
> > I gain one winsome for my focus grant.
> >
>
> I do this again.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

Re: BUS: [proposal] Cyan Ribbon Patch

[Madrid via agora-business]

 I pay a pendant to pend it!

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 9:49 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>  I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Cyan Ribbon Patch
>
> Author: secretsnail
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index: 3.0
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing "Cyan (C): When a person
> deputises for an office, that person earns a Cyan Ribbon" with
> "Cyan (C): When a person deputises for an office, and that person has not
> held or deputized for that office within the past 7 days, that person
> earns a
> Cyan Ribbon".
>
> [Fixes an issue which lets a player repeatedly deputize for an office and
> award emself up to 5 cyan glitter.]
>
> }
>

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637

[Madrid via agora-business]

I vote FOR all

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 7:33 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 1/31/22 00:44, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> > I vote as follows:
> >> 8635*   Murphy  4.0   Outside assistance
> > PRESENT
> >
> >
> >> 8636&   G.  1.5   Points
> > FOR
> >
> >
> >> 8637&   G., Jason   1.0   Basic Scoring v0.2
> > AGAINST
> > --
> >
> > secretsnail9
>
>
> Unfortunately you are not eligible to vote in these decisions, as you
> were not a player when they were initiated.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: CFJ of a Hypothetical

[Madrid via agora-business]

I favor this case, because I'm kind of not really up to anything else.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:13 PM Rose Strong via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I CFJ: The minimum number of players needed for Agora to not be ossified is
> 1.
>

BUS: humble agoran farmer does nothing

[Madrid via agora-business]

i do nothing, just trying to avoid being deregged

BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

[Madrid via agora-business]

I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant