Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Pre-Resolution of Victory Election
TTttPF Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Let me try again, I hereby ratify the following document without objection: > {{Votes on any attempt to initiate a Victory Election are votes on the most > recent successful attempt.}} > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Jun 19, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2017-06-19 at 18:30 -0400, omd wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>> wrote: I hereby ratify the following document without objection: {{Votes on any attempt to initiate a Victory Election shall be counted as votes on the most recent successful attempt.}} >>> >>> I object, and I'm pretty sure this wouldn't do anything if ratified >>> (the statement could only be made true through a rule change, yet the >>> document doesn't specify the exact change). :p >> >> Just a reminder for everyone, as there have been several mistakes with >> this recently: ratification isn't a method of making rulings on "what >> should have happened", and can't "see" history; it's a method of >> changing the current gamestate to match the results of what a >> retroactive change would have been. In particular, the ratification >> mechanism mostly assumes that you're ratifying a true statement, and if >> you want to ratify a /false/ statement, that statement mustn't in of >> itself have any awareness that it's false. >> >> -- >> ais523 >
Re: BUS: [Herald] Pre-Resolution of Victory Election
On Mon, 2017-06-19 at 18:30 -0400, omd wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I hereby ratify the following document without objection: {{Votes > > on any attempt to initiate a Victory Election shall be counted as > > votes on the most recent successful attempt.}} > > I object, and I'm pretty sure this wouldn't do anything if ratified > (the statement could only be made true through a rule change, yet the > document doesn't specify the exact change). :p Just a reminder for everyone, as there have been several mistakes with this recently: ratification isn't a method of making rulings on "what should have happened", and can't "see" history; it's a method of changing the current gamestate to match the results of what a retroactive change would have been. In particular, the ratification mechanism mostly assumes that you're ratifying a true statement, and if you want to ratify a /false/ statement, that statement mustn't in of itself have any awareness that it's false. -- ais523
Re: BUS: [Herald] Pre-Resolution of Victory Election
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I hereby ratify the following document without objection: {{Votes on any > attempt to initiate a Victory Election shall be counted as votes on the most > recent successful attempt.}} I object, and I'm pretty sure this wouldn't do anything if ratified (the statement could only be made true through a rule change, yet the document doesn't specify the exact change). :p
BUS: [Herald] Pre-Resolution of Victory Election
I hereby ratify the following document without objection: {{Votes on any attempt to initiate a Victory Election shall be counted as votes on the most recent successful attempt.}} Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com