Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:16 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 8/2/20 1:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> > Indictment Decision 01-A
> > Resolved:  That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir
> > pledge, "Honor in Scammery".
> >
> > Indictment Decision 01-B
> > Resolved:  That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee,
> > be accepted.
> >
> > I hereby initiate a referendum on each of the above Decisions.  Each
> > decision has a voting method of AI-majority, with AI=1.5.  The vote
> > collector is the Arbitor, the quorum is 6, valid options are FOR and
> > AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
> >
> > As a guide, ordered pairs of votes for (A,B) above have the following 
> > meaning:
> >
> > (FOR, FOR): Guilty, and 1 blot is an appropriate penalty.
> >
> > (FOR, AGAINST): Guilty, but issue a different penalty (higher or lower).
> >
> > (AGAINST, FOR): Not Guilty, but if found guilty by the total votes, 1 blot
> > is appropriate.
> >
> > (AGAINST, AGAINST):  Not Guilty, but if found guilty by total votes, issue
> >  a different penalty (higher or lower).
> >
>
> I vote FOR on both.

Ballot
Let (A, B) = (FOR, FOR)

-Aris


BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread N. S. via agora-business
I vote PRESENT

On Mon., 3 Aug. 2020, 3:01 am Kerim Aydin via agora-official, <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> Indictment Decision 01-A
> Resolved:  That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir
> pledge, "Honor in Scammery".
>
> Indictment Decision 01-B
> Resolved:  That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee,
> be accepted.
>
> I hereby initiate a referendum on each of the above Decisions.  Each
> decision has a voting method of AI-majority, with AI=1.5.  The vote
> collector is the Arbitor, the quorum is 6, valid options are FOR and
> AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
>
> As a guide, ordered pairs of votes for (A,B) above have the following
> meaning:
>
> (FOR, FOR): Guilty, and 1 blot is an appropriate penalty.
>
> (FOR, AGAINST): Guilty, but issue a different penalty (higher or lower).
>
> (AGAINST, FOR): Not Guilty, but if found guilty by the total votes, 1 blot
> is appropriate.
>
> (AGAINST, AGAINST):  Not Guilty, but if found guilty by total votes, issue
>  a different penalty (higher or lower).
>
>
> In the ~10 days since the indictment was issued, the defendant has not
> provided a defense.  The following contains the details of the indictment:
>
> On 7/22/2020 10:02 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
> > On 7/22/20 12:11 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/22/2020 8:26 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> >>> On 7/22/20 2:37 AM, N. S. via agora-business wrote:
> > "Honor in scammery" created by R. Lee
> 
>  I point my finger at myself for violating this pledge
> >>> Because breach of this fine is a class 1000 crime, an Indictment will
> >>> be
> >>> needed here. G., do you have a preference for how many blots to impose
> >>> as the aggrieved party?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I was a full conspirator in the scam underlying this, the ability to
> >> fulfill the pledge depended on the scam working, and e made a full
> >> attempt
> >> to fulfill the conditions (e published a message that would have kept
> >> the
> >> pledge, during the time we thought the scam had worked).  The fact that
> >> e
> >> didn't a put a "this is void if the scam fails" (which was a common-
> >> sense
> >> understanding between us) isn't injurious at all, from my personal POV.
> >>
> >> Any punishment above a trivial level (I dunno, 1 or 2) would be
> >> leveraging
> >> this pledge to punish em for the scam attempt overall IMO; and nch and
> >> I
> >> were equal partners in the conspiracy.
> >>
> >> -G.
> >>
> >
> > Given that G. is in agreement with a minimal fine, I issue an Indictment
> > finding R. Lee guilty of breaching eir pledge, "Honor in Scammery",
> > specifying a fine of 1 blot. I recommend that e be found guilty and the
> > Indictment imposed only because e clearly breached the pledge and e
> > should have been more careful in drafting it.
>
>
>


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread omd via agora-business
at 10:05 AM, nix via agora-business  wrote:
> On both decisions I vote endorse R. Lee, or FOR on both if e does not vote.

I vote to denounce R. Lee.


BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread Falsifian via agora-business

On 2020-08-02 17:01, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:

Indictment Decision 01-A
Resolved:  That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir
pledge, "Honor in Scammery".

Indictment Decision 01-B
Resolved:  That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee,
be accepted.


I vote FOR both.

--
Falsifian


BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/2/20 1:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> Indictment Decision 01-A
> Resolved:  That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir
> pledge, "Honor in Scammery".
>
> Indictment Decision 01-B
> Resolved:  That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee,
> be accepted.
>
> I hereby initiate a referendum on each of the above Decisions.  Each
> decision has a voting method of AI-majority, with AI=1.5.  The vote
> collector is the Arbitor, the quorum is 6, valid options are FOR and
> AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
>
> As a guide, ordered pairs of votes for (A,B) above have the following meaning:
>
> (FOR, FOR): Guilty, and 1 blot is an appropriate penalty.
>
> (FOR, AGAINST): Guilty, but issue a different penalty (higher or lower).
>
> (AGAINST, FOR): Not Guilty, but if found guilty by the total votes, 1 blot
> is appropriate.
>
> (AGAINST, AGAINST):  Not Guilty, but if found guilty by total votes, issue
>  a different penalty (higher or lower).
>

I vote FOR on both.

-- 
Jason Cobb



BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee

2020-08-02 Thread nix via agora-business
On 8/2/20 12:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> Indictment Decision 01-A
> Resolved:  That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir
> pledge, "Honor in Scammery".
> 
> Indictment Decision 01-B
> Resolved:  That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee,
> be accepted.
> 
> I hereby initiate a referendum on each of the above Decisions.  Each
> decision has a voting method of AI-majority, with AI=1.5.  The vote
> collector is the Arbitor, the quorum is 6, valid options are FOR and
> AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).

On both decisions I vote endorse R. Lee, or FOR on both if e does not vote.

-- 
nix
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