Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote AGAINST. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Dec 17, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Corona wrote: > > I vote AGAINST as "conditionally" is not rigorously defined and I > believe that would cause issues. > > On 12/10/17, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran >> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal >> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the >> quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options >> are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional >> votes). >> >> ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend >> fee >> --- >> 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP >> >> The proposal pool is currently empty. >> >> Legend: * : Proposal is pending. >> >> >> A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value >> in shines (see the Treasuror's report). >> >> The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. >> >> // >> ID: 7993 >> Title: Conditional Ban >> Adoption index: 1.0 >> Author: Alexis >> Co-authors: >> >> >> Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the >> rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions >> CANNOT be performed conditionally." >> >> // >> signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote AGAINST as "conditionally" is not rigorously defined and I believe that would cause issues. On 12/10/17, Aris Merchant wrote: > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options > are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional > votes). > > ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend > fee > --- > 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > Legend: * : Proposal is pending. > > > A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value > in shines (see the Treasuror's report). > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. > > // > ID: 7993 > Title: Conditional Ban > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Alexis > Co-authors: > > > Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the > rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions > CANNOT be performed conditionally." > > // >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote as follows: On 2017-12-11 13:03, Aris Merchant wrote: I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes). ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend fee --- 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP FOR. It should be interesting. The proposal pool is currently empty. Legend: * : Proposal is pending. A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value in shines (see the Treasuror's report). The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. // ID: 7993 Title: Conditional Ban Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Alexis Co-authors: Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions CANNOT be performed conditionally." //
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend fee > --- > 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP AGAINST. I was sorely tempted to vote for this: conditionals are so core to current Agora play that living without them for a few months might legitimately be interesting. However, I can’t bring myself to do it. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I'm leaning towards voting against, but for now, I vote PRESENT. On 12/14/2017 9:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: I vote AGAINST. Conditionals are a significant convenience, and they make gameplay more interesting. Removing them should be a last resort. I believe our precedents should be enough to prevent abuse; if not, there is certainly a less extreme legislative solution. -Aris On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:52 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: I vote FOR. On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 21:04 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes). ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend fee --- 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP The proposal pool is currently empty. Legend: * : Proposal is pending. A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value in shines (see the Treasuror's report). The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. // ID: 7993 Title: Conditional Ban Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Alexis Co-authors: Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions CANNOT be performed conditionally." //
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote AGAINST. Conditionals are a significant convenience, and they make gameplay more interesting. Removing them should be a last resort. I believe our precedents should be enough to prevent abuse; if not, there is certainly a less extreme legislative solution. -Aris On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:52 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > I vote FOR. > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 21:04 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options > > are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional > > votes). > > > > ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend > > fee > > > --- > > 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP > > > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > > > Legend: * : Proposal is pending. > > > > > > A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value > > in shines (see the Treasuror's report). > > > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. > > > > // > > ID: 7993 > > Title: Conditional Ban > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Alexis > > Co-authors: > > > > > > Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the > > rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions > > CANNOT be performed conditionally." > > > > // > > >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7993
I vote FOR. On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 21:04 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options > are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional > votes). > > ID Author(s) AITitlePender Pend > fee > --- > 7993* Alexis 1.0 Conditional Ban Alexis 1 AP > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > Legend: * : Proposal is pending. > > > A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value > in shines (see the Treasuror's report). > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. > > // > ID: 7993 > Title: Conditional Ban > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Alexis > Co-authors: > > > Enact a new rule entitled 'Unconditionality' reading "Except where the > rules, implicitly or explicitly, provide a mechanism to do so, actions > CANNOT be performed conditionally." > > // >
