BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-30 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 04:11:06PM -0700, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW.
> 
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
> 
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS

I vote AGAINST.

I like the proposal but agree with others that it needs work.

When I first read the text, I didn't understand what the "must" meant.
I guessed it was like MUST. I think it would be cleaner to say in R2640
that the scroll can include conditions for wielding, update R2641 to
say wielding depends on that, and then add a condition to this stone
that the specified player most not have owned the stone since Agora
last did.

-- 
Falsifian


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/29/21 19:23, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/29/21 19:11, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
>> 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS
> FOR
>

I change this vote to PRESENT.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-30 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

I vote PRESENT on proposal 8602.

On 8/29/2021 19:11, Aspen via agora-official wrote:

PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW.

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
is the Assessor, the quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).

ID  Author(s)   AITitle
---
8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS

The proposal pool currently contains the following proposal(s):

Author(s)   AITitle
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Jason, Bucky2.0   Buying Strength Eligibility
G.  1.0   [1]

[1] This proposal has no title. Furthermore, it may not exist.

Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
 & : Ordinary proposal.
 ~ : Unsponsored proposal.

The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.

//
ID: 8602
Title: ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: R. Lee
Co-author(s):


Amend rule 2642, 'Distributing Stones' by replacing its second paragraph
with 'The Stonemason SHALL if possible initiate such an auction monthly and
only once a month, in a timely fashion after a collection notice has been
issued. The Stonemason SHALL auction exactly 2 stones in a month if
possible'

Retitle rule 2644 'The Gauntlet' to 'Zen Gardening' [cosmetic change to
remove the annoying movie reference that I discussed once on discord]

Amend rule 2644 by replacing any instances of the word 'Gauntlet' with
'Rock Garden' [sorry for the bad way of putting this, but this rule might
get amended soon so I have to do it for safety]

Amend rule 2644 by replacing '5 or more' with '8 or more' [If there are 10
stones you should need more to win obviously'

Amend rule 2645 'The Stones' by adding the following text on the end.
"-  Recursion Stone (Monthly, 80%): The recursion stone can be wielded once
per
month as if it had the power of any other stone of your choice.

- Hot Potato Stone (Weekly, 100%): You must transfer this stone to a player
of your choice
who has never owned this stone since the last time agora has owned it. Then
the original wielder gains 8 boatloads of coins.
SPECIAL RULE: Other rules notwithstanding, this stone never escapes as long
as at least three players have owned it in the last Agoran month

Blank Stone (Monthly, 5%): This stone has no effect.

Alchemy Stone (weekly, 70%): Destroy four cards you own. If four cards were
destroyed this way, gain 7 products of your choice"

//
Title: Buying Strength Eligibility
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Jason
Co-author(s): Bucky


Amend Rule 2653 by replacing "A player's Voting Strength on referendum"
with "A person's Voting Strength on a referendum".

[There's no reason that buying strength should stop applying on
deregistration, since a non-player can still be eligible to vote.]

//
Title:
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: G.
Co-author(s):


submit this statement as a CFJ

//




--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-30 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2021-08-29 at 16:11 -0700, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS
I vote AGAINST on this decision.

I broadly agree with the ideas behind this, but I agree with G. that
the details require more work (especially on the Hot Potato Stone).

-- 
ais523



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-29 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:15 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> I vote:
>
> >
> ---
> > 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS
>
> AGAINST.
>
>
I've previously explained that G's objections to this proposal fail and are
already dealt with inside the proposal itself.

I vote FOR this proposal.
-- 
--
R. Lee


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


I vote:

> ---
> 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS

AGAINST.



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-29 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/29/21 19:11, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
> 8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS

FOR

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8602

2021-08-29 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I vote as follows:


8602&   R. Lee  2.0   ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS


PRESENT