Re: (@Madrid) Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

2021-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


On 11/3/2021 11:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 
> On 11/3/2021 10:32 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:29 PM Jason Cobb  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:08 PM Madrid via agora-business <
>>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>>
 I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant

>>>
>>> I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumble team
>>> contract, in violation of Rule 1742.
>>>
> 
> Though I'd take this typo as obvious/still functional, given the second
> finger point below I declare the above one SHENANIGANS as there's no such
> contract.
> 
> 
>> I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumblebeam
>> contract, in violation of Rule 1742.

This is confirmed to have happened as noted below.  The direct
self-interested gain for Madrid for committing this rules breach was 1
Justice Card. This makes valuation pretty easy - e gained the equivalent
of 2.5 BBGs for breaking the rule.

I impose the maximum CHoJ by levying a fine of 4 blots (2*base).  This
results in 4-2.5 a 1.5 blot penalty when taking into account the profits
of the crime, so is actually light (0.5 lighter than the default penalty).

This is a trifle unfortunate as the crime was committed knowingly for
profit, but not unfortunate enough to go for an indictment at this time.
It's noted that a pattern of continued abuse (i.e. if broken again next
month, also taking into account that Madrid escaped justice for the same
crime last month) may swing this strongly towards indictment.

> Madrid, do you have anything to say or do in defense?  The facts suggest
> that your quoted action above is a straightforward breach of this clause
> of the contract:
> 
>> The Puppet SHALL NOT plan to flip eir Ministry Focus or grant eir
>> Ministry Focus's Grant, except as provided for in this contract.
> 
> with a base (R2557 default) fine of 2, which might be modified in sentencing.
> 
> For full recordkeeping, my reading of the facts is that the contract's
> Jumblepuppet period began in mid-June, and the Cosmic Debt increased 1.2
> in each of Jul, Aug, Sep but decreased 1.0 in each of October and
> November, following the September economic takeover.  Leaving debt at the
> time of the above action (November 3) at 1.2.
> 
> = The Referee
> 
> 
> Full contract for reference (from Oct 1 Notary's Report)
> 
> "Jumblebeam Deal" (initial revision)
> Parties: Cuddlebeam, Jumble
> 
> --
> 
> Cuddlebeam and Jumble are the only people that can become parties to
> this contract.
> 
> There are three consecutive periods of time: the Jumblepuppet Period,
> the Cuddlepuppet Period, and the End Period. The Jumblepuppet Period
> begins when this contract is created. When an Economic Takeover
> happens, the Jumblepuppet Period ends and the Cuddlepuppet Period
> begins. When Cuddlebeam's Cosmic Debt is lowered to 0 or less, the End
> Period begins.
> 
> Members to this contract cannot leave it unless it is the End Period.
> 
> One or zero parties to this contract are the Puppeteer. If there is a
> Puppeteer, the other party is the Puppet. During the Jumblepuppet
> Period, if Jumble is a member this contract, they are the Puppet.
> During the Cuddlepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam is the Puppet. During the
> End Period there is no Puppet.
> 
> The Puppeteer can act on behalf of the Puppet to:
> - Plan to Flip their Ministry Focus.
> - Grant their Ministry Focus' Grant to the Puppeteer.
> - Transfer 1 Victory Card from the Puppet to themselves, if the Puppet
> has gained a Victory Card by being granted it by the Ministor by
> virtue of R2624 and the Puppeteer has not done so since the last time
> that such an event has happened.
> 
> Cuddlebeam has an amount of Cosmic Debt, which starts at 0. At the
> start of each month during the Jumblepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam's
> Cosmic Debt increases by 1.2 (that is, 6/5). At the start of each
> month during the Cuddlepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam's Cosmic Debt
> decreases by 1.
> 
> The Puppet SHALL NOT plan to flip eir Ministry Focus or grant eir
> Ministry Focus's Grant, except as provided for in this contract. The
> Puppet SHALL NOT transfer or spend their last Victory Card, if they
> have been granted one by the Ministor by virtue of R2624 and the
> Puppeteer hasn’t used this contract to transfer it to themselves yet.
> 
> --
> 
> History:
> 
> 15 Jun 22:18 2021: contract created by Cuddlebeam
> 15 Jun 22:27 2021: Jumble became a party
> 



(@Madrid) Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

2021-11-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


On 11/3/2021 10:32 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:29 PM Jason Cobb  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:08 PM Madrid via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant
>>>
>>
>> I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumble team
>> contract, in violation of Rule 1742.
>>

Though I'd take this typo as obvious/still functional, given the second
finger point below I declare the above one SHENANIGANS as there's no such
contract.


> I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumblebeam
> contract, in violation of Rule 1742.

Madrid, do you have anything to say or do in defense?  The facts suggest
that your quoted action above is a straightforward breach of this clause
of the contract:

> The Puppet SHALL NOT plan to flip eir Ministry Focus or grant eir
> Ministry Focus's Grant, except as provided for in this contract.

with a base (R2557 default) fine of 2, which might be modified in sentencing.

For full recordkeeping, my reading of the facts is that the contract's
Jumblepuppet period began in mid-June, and the Cosmic Debt increased 1.2
in each of Jul, Aug, Sep but decreased 1.0 in each of October and
November, following the September economic takeover.  Leaving debt at the
time of the above action (November 3) at 1.2.

= The Referee


Full contract for reference (from Oct 1 Notary's Report)

"Jumblebeam Deal" (initial revision)
Parties: Cuddlebeam, Jumble

--

Cuddlebeam and Jumble are the only people that can become parties to
this contract.

There are three consecutive periods of time: the Jumblepuppet Period,
the Cuddlepuppet Period, and the End Period. The Jumblepuppet Period
begins when this contract is created. When an Economic Takeover
happens, the Jumblepuppet Period ends and the Cuddlepuppet Period
begins. When Cuddlebeam's Cosmic Debt is lowered to 0 or less, the End
Period begins.

Members to this contract cannot leave it unless it is the End Period.

One or zero parties to this contract are the Puppeteer. If there is a
Puppeteer, the other party is the Puppet. During the Jumblepuppet
Period, if Jumble is a member this contract, they are the Puppet.
During the Cuddlepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam is the Puppet. During the
End Period there is no Puppet.

The Puppeteer can act on behalf of the Puppet to:
- Plan to Flip their Ministry Focus.
- Grant their Ministry Focus' Grant to the Puppeteer.
- Transfer 1 Victory Card from the Puppet to themselves, if the Puppet
has gained a Victory Card by being granted it by the Ministor by
virtue of R2624 and the Puppeteer has not done so since the last time
that such an event has happened.

Cuddlebeam has an amount of Cosmic Debt, which starts at 0. At the
start of each month during the Jumblepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam's
Cosmic Debt increases by 1.2 (that is, 6/5). At the start of each
month during the Cuddlepuppet Period, Cuddlebeam's Cosmic Debt
decreases by 1.

The Puppet SHALL NOT plan to flip eir Ministry Focus or grant eir
Ministry Focus's Grant, except as provided for in this contract. The
Puppet SHALL NOT transfer or spend their last Victory Card, if they
have been granted one by the Ministor by virtue of R2624 and the
Puppeteer hasn’t used this contract to transfer it to themselves yet.

--

History:

15 Jun 22:18 2021: contract created by Cuddlebeam
15 Jun 22:27 2021: Jumble became a party



Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

2021-11-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:29 PM Jason Cobb  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:08 PM Madrid via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant
>>
>
> I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumble team
> contract, in violation of Rule 1742.
>

Ugh, stupid autocorrect.

I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumblebeam
contract, in violation of Rule 1742.

>


Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

2021-11-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 1:08 PM Madrid via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant
>

I point my finger at Madrid for violating the terms of the Jumble team
contract, in violation of Rule 1742.

>


BUS: humble agoran farmer grants themselves their grant

2021-11-03 Thread Madrid via agora-business
I grant myself my Ministry Focus' Grant