Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
On 7/7/20 8:01 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > Ok I CFJ: "I am no longer a party to Trigon's 6th secret contract" > > Argument: That contract says in relevant part" "No party can leave this > contract until the Secret > Action has been performed." which would seem to mandate that I can't leave > that contract before the action is performed (at the time of calling it > hasn't been). Having said that a contract is very simply "an agreement > between players", and I unambiguously don't agree to that contract in any > way, which means it's no longer a contract with me. I favour this CFJ. -- Jason Cobb
Re: [@R. Lee] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
If I'm a party to that contract, I consent to that amendment and then withdraw my consent to the contract. However the CFJ still stands (and theyre judged at the time of calling etc) On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:00 AM Reuben Staley via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-07-07 17:59, Reuben Staley wrote: > > On 2020-07-07 17:54, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > >> The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret > >> Action has been performed." > > > > Seriously, I put that in there? Weird. > > > > If I am the only party to Secret Contract No. 6, I amend the contract by > > removing the sentence beginning "No party can leave this contract". If I > > am not, then I simply propose to amend the contract as such. > > PF > > -- > Trigon > > I LOVE SPAGHETTI > transfer Jason one coin > nch was here > I hereby > don't... trust... the dragon... > don't... trust... the dragon... > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this > -- >From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
Ok I CFJ: "I am no longer a party to Trigon's 6th secret contract" Argument: That contract says in relevant part" "No party can leave this contract until the Secret Action has been performed." which would seem to mandate that I can't leave that contract before the action is performed (at the time of calling it hasn't been). Having said that a contract is very simply "an agreement between players", and I unambiguously don't agree to that contract in any way, which means it's no longer a contract with me. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:55 AM N. S. wrote: > Pretty sure it can't really do that, it stops being a contract with me > immediately after I stop consenting to it, which I do. > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:54 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < > agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret >> Action has been performed." >> >> On 7/7/2020 7:43 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: >> > i have one card now, i cease to be a member of contract 6 though >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:40 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < >> > agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> > >> >> On 2020-07-07 17:03, N. S. via agora-business wrote: >> >>> I become a party to each of Trigon's secret contracts. >> >> >> >> I feel obligated to bring this up. >> >> >> >> Contract 3 states: >> >>> Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least one card when the Secret >> >>> Action is performed. >> >> and Contract 6 states: >> >>> Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least three cards when the >> >>> Secret Action is performed. >> >> >> >> These two contracts are the ones whose party limits you have triggered. >> >> I won't say much about it other than that you might want to take this >> >> advice and acquire some cards from somewhere. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Trigon >> >> >> >> I LOVE SPAGHETTI >> >> transfer Jason one coin >> >> nch was here >> >> I hereby >> >> don't... trust... the dragon... >> >> don't... trust... the dragon... >> >> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> ATMunn >> friendly neighborhood notary here :) >> > > > -- > From R. Lee > -- >From R. Lee
Re: [@R. Lee] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
On 2020-07-07 17:59, Reuben Staley wrote: On 2020-07-07 17:54, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret Action has been performed." Seriously, I put that in there? Weird. If I am the only party to Secret Contract No. 6, I amend the contract by removing the sentence beginning "No party can leave this contract". If I am not, then I simply propose to amend the contract as such. PF -- Trigon I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
On 2020-07-07 17:43, N. S. via agora-business wrote: i have one card now, i cease to be a member of contract 6 though Okay, in that case, I perform the Secret Action of Contract 3. Relevant section: Trigon CAN, when the number of parties to this contract is the same as its party limit, and SHALL, in a timely fashion after that, perform all the following steps in order in the same message without performing any other actions until the process is complete. 1. Reveal the unhashed text of the Secret Action. 2. Perform the Secret Action, taking all steps identified therein. 3. Leave this contract. The hashed Secret Action is: c96b8d180a178d4761cac40e9120e35d662cd32c31050cfbf0d4c4b16fb6fce7 FIRST, I reveal the Secret Action. The full text reads: 489248320489 If the other party to this contract posesses cards, Trigon chooses one of their cards and transfers it to emself, then transfers one of eir own cards to the other party of this contract. Again, a file is attached which hashes to the correct output if the above line gets mangled somehow. SECOND, I perform the actions specified. I choose R. Lee's legislative card from eir vast selection. I transfer it to myself. I then transfer my Victory Card to R. Lee. THIRD, I leave Secret Contract No. 3. Pleasure doing business. -- Trigon I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this 489248320489 If the other party to this contract posesses cards, Trigon chooses one of their cards and transfers it to emself, then transfers one of eir own cards to the other party of this contract.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
Pretty sure it can't really do that, it stops being a contract with me immediately after I stop consenting to it, which I do. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:54 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > The contract says "No party can leave this contract until the Secret > Action has been performed." > > On 7/7/2020 7:43 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > i have one card now, i cease to be a member of contract 6 though > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:40 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > > agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> On 2020-07-07 17:03, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > >>> I become a party to each of Trigon's secret contracts. > >> > >> I feel obligated to bring this up. > >> > >> Contract 3 states: > >>> Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least one card when the Secret > >>> Action is performed. > >> and Contract 6 states: > >>> Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least three cards when the > >>> Secret Action is performed. > >> > >> These two contracts are the ones whose party limits you have triggered. > >> I won't say much about it other than that you might want to take this > >> advice and acquire some cards from somewhere. > >> > >> -- > >> Trigon > >> > >> I LOVE SPAGHETTI > >> transfer Jason one coin > >> nch was here > >> I hereby > >> don't... trust... the dragon... > >> don't... trust... the dragon... > >> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this > >> > > > > -- > ATMunn > friendly neighborhood notary here :) > -- >From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Secret Contracts
i have one card now, i cease to be a member of contract 6 though On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:40 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-07-07 17:03, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > I become a party to each of Trigon's secret contracts. > > I feel obligated to bring this up. > > Contract 3 states: > > Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least one card when the Secret > > Action is performed. > and Contract 6 states: > > Parties to this contract SHOULD have at least three cards when the > > Secret Action is performed. > > These two contracts are the ones whose party limits you have triggered. > I won't say much about it other than that you might want to take this > advice and acquire some cards from somewhere. > > -- > Trigon > > I LOVE SPAGHETTI > transfer Jason one coin > nch was here > I hereby > don't... trust... the dragon... > don't... trust... the dragon... > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this > -- >From R. Lee
