DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I withdraw an 8 crop for 98 chits. (I should have 50 now.) I deposit a 5 crop for 77 chits. (I should have 137 now.) Bad math here. I deposit 3 0 crops for 120 chits. (197 now.) and here. If I calculated things right, there are 7187 chits in existence, and I hold 792 of them. You are at 842 chits of a total of 7237 chits. All your actions are still successful. BobTHJ
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Suggestion: Use the existing mechanism in rule 2198
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you include the header and s as part of the proposal or don't enter its adoption index as 1.5, I will bite you. It's fairly likely that the PNP will be the Promotor soon, so you'll be able to bite yourself.
DIS: Re: BUS: paradox CFJ
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 09:01 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that tusho violated Rule 2110 by failing to make a reasonable attempt to resolve the paradox by which e won as soon as possible after winning by paradox. --Wooble It is possible that tusho's voting for my proposals that attempted to resolve the paradox were a reasonable attempt to resolve the paradox. I also note that some of my proposals that attempted to resolve the paradox failed, so the possibility for the paradox is still there. (The /actual/ paradox was resolved voluntarily by comex when e performed an action that unified the two possible gamestates, but I had already by then a proposal that would have unified the gamestates by force.) -- ais523
DIS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Rulekeepor election
On 21:14 Wed 13 Aug , Geoffrey Spear wrote: This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Rulekeepor position. The eligible voters are the active players and the vote collector is the IADOP. The valid options are zefram (who is inactive), Wooble, and comex. All other nominees explicitly declined their nominations with the exception of root, who is inactive and who was nominated during the second half of the nomination period. -IADOP Wooble If Zefram is active by the time this election is resolved, I vote zefram. Otherwise, I vote comex.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Rulekeepor election
pikhq wrote: If Zefram is active by the time this election is resolved, I vote zefram. Otherwise, I vote comex. NttPF.
DIS: Re: BUS: reregistering
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 10:28 -0500, Chester Mealer wrote: I resume being cdm014. If the previous statement was not a possible action, I register or reregister under the name cdm014 choosing the action which best communicates that I was previously an active player called cdm014 and wish to be so again. I'm treating this as causing cdm014 to become active (e was previously registered but inactive, as far as I can tell). -- ais523
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2115 judged UNDECIDABLE by woggle
On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:35 -0400, comex wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judge woggle's Arguments: I judge UNDECIDABLE. See also the precedent of CFJ 1787. I intend to appeal this judgement with 2 support. I don't, as it's appropriate, and the UNDECIDABLE doesn't lead to a win by paradox as the paradox arises from the CFJ itself. -- ais523
DIS: Registrar Report online
I've put the registrar-report-in-progress online at http://agora.eso-std.org/registrar-report. (tusho hasn't made an HTML version of this yet, but knowing em it's only a matter of time.) For protection against email harvesting it uses = rather than @ in email addresses. I would put the Mad Scientist report online too, but there doesn't seem to be one. -- Mad Scientist, Notary and Registrar ais523 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
DIS: Proto: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard
Scorekeepor's Scoreboard Time of last report: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 Time of this report: (All times are in UTC. Precision in timing not guaranteed.) Player Score ais52340 BobTHJ12 comex 2 Eris 1 Iammars 62 Murphy28 OscarMeyr 26 Pavitra2 pikhq 26 Quazie 1 root 20 Wooble15 Zefram 9 All other players have a score of 0. Score Index: 0 Agora is presently in Overtime Contests Contest:Agoran Agricultural Association Contestmaster: BobTHJ Awardable Pts: 70 Contest:Enigma Contestmaster: ais523 Awardable Pts: 55 Contest:Fantasy Rules Contest Contestmaster: root Awardable Pts: 30 Contest:The Werewolves of Agora Nomic Contestmaster: Murphy Awardable Pts: 45 Contest:Points Relay Service Contestmaster: BobTHJ Awardable Pts: 40 Recent Events (* indicates double award due to overtime) -- --- Time of last report --- Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:40 - ais523 +4 points (AAA) Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:12 - Wooble +8 points (AAA) Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:16 - Murphy +4 points (AAA) Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:50 - ais523 +4 points (AAA) Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:02 - Murphy +6 points (AAA) Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:05 - Murphy places Agora in Overtime Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:43 - OscarMeyr +8* points (AAA) Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:30 - ais523 +32* points (PRS)
DIS: Contestmaster Awards
If you have served as the contestmaster of a contest during the months of June or July and have fulfilled all your obligations under that contest please post (to a public forum) a statement that you have done so, along with the number of contestants in that contest for each of those months. Thanks! Scorekeepor BobTHJ
Re: ?spam? BUS: Re: DIS: Contestmaster Awards
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 21:21 +0100, ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:05 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: If you have served as the contestmaster of a contest during the months of June or July and have fulfilled all your obligations under that contest please post (to a public forum) a statement that you have done so, along with the number of contestants in that contest for each of those months. Thanks! Scorekeepor BobTHJ I've been contestmaster of Enigma throughout all of July and some of June, and have fulfilled all my obligations under that contest (which would have been more difficult had some players actually tried posting problems for it...). Enigma has had 10 contestants, 9 of which are first-class, and all of which are registered, throughout July. I'd also like to remind all Enigma players that submitting problems for Enigma is a good way to earn points, particularly valuable now we're in overtime. If nobody submits problems, the contest will just sit there doing nothing... -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5673-5673
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:07 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 15:38 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE I vote as follows 5673 D 2 3.1 fds test FORx1 (it's Democratic). Since the PNP is not Promotor, the alleged distribution did not distribute that proposal, and may or may not have submitted it. Yes, I was just wondering what would happen. Another case for the courts, I expect, just not sure how to word it. -- ais523
Re: DIS: Contestmaster Awards
BobTHJ wrote: If you have served as the contestmaster of a contest during the months of June or July and have fulfilled all your obligations under that contest please post (to a public forum) a statement that you have done so, along with the number of contestants in that contest for each of those months. I have been contestmaster of The Werewolves of Agora Nomic since mid-June. TTBOMK, I have fulfilled all my obligations under it, and it has had 9 contestants (root, Zefram, Wooble, ais523, tusho, comex, Quazie, Pavitra, and avpx) since a few days after forming.
Re: DIS: Contestmaster Awards
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:12 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: BobTHJ wrote: If you have served as the contestmaster of a contest during the months of June or July and have fulfilled all your obligations under that contest please post (to a public forum) a statement that you have done so, along with the number of contestants in that contest for each of those months. I have been contestmaster of The Werewolves of Agora Nomic since mid-June. TTBOMK, I have fulfilled all my obligations under it, and it has had 9 contestants (root, Zefram, Wooble, ais523, tusho, comex, Quazie, Pavitra, and avpx) since a few days after forming. tusho wasn't always a player of Agora throughout that time, though; I can't remember offhand whether that makes a difference. -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5673-5673
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 15:10, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:07 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 15:38 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE I vote as follows 5673 D 2 3.1 fds test FORx1 (it's Democratic). Since the PNP is not Promotor, the alleged distribution did not distribute that proposal, and may or may not have submitted it. Yes, I was just wondering what would happen. Another case for the courts, I expect, just not sure how to word it. The PNP should conditionally retract the proposal, which will work well enough. -woggle
DIS: Re: BUS: paradox CFJ
2008/8/18 Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that tusho violated Rule 2110 by failing to make a reasonable attempt to resolve the paradox by which e won as soon as possible after winning by paradox. --Wooble I talked with ais523 and we agreed that since mine was just a silly copycat my cleanup would be voting for eir cleanup proposals. If that's not OK, /shrug
DIS: Re: BUS: Poobah Caste Shuffle
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: As required, I adjust player castes for the month of August as follows: Promoted to Alpha: Taral Promoted to Beta: BobTHJ Promoted to Gamma: Quazie Promoted to Delta: Ivan Hope Demoted to Delta: Zefram AFO OscarMeyr Demoted to Epsilon: avpx ais523 comex woggle Pavitra PNP Goethe COE: please check that these succeeded, given the incorrect caste designation you gave for me. -Goethe Actually, this is interesting. BobTHJ couldn't demote me to Epsilon, because I was gamma, so the very last action failed. Going back and doing just me would put things out of order by the complicated rules of demotion. Or not. How much of the whole thing fails because a small piece failed? Holy Card Propagation Error! -Goethe
Re: DIS: Contestmaster Awards
2008/8/18 Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BobTHJ wrote: If you have served as the contestmaster of a contest during the months of June or July and have fulfilled all your obligations under that contest please post (to a public forum) a statement that you have done so, along with the number of contestants in that contest for each of those months. I have been contestmaster of The Werewolves of Agora Nomic since mid-June. TTBOMK, I have fulfilled all my obligations under it, and it has had 9 contestants (root, Zefram, Wooble, ais523, tusho, comex, Quazie, Pavitra, and avpx) since a few days after forming. nttpf
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Grand Poobah] Caste Report
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GAMMA (Voting Limit: 3) Wooble CoE: I increased my caste to Beta in the message with ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this case, all demotions failed, as BobTHJ would have had to demote a Beta first. (I think once you do skip a step, everything after that is platonically blocked because the CAN implied with the SHALL is pegged to doing things in order, if you do it out of order, you no longer CAN). Agreements/disagreements with this interpretation? At the beginning of each month, each Alpha's caste is flipped to eir default value. As soon as possible after the beginning of each month, the Grand Poobah SHALL do the following, in order, at each step choosing (if possible) a player who has not yet been chosen during the current procedure: 1) Promotions. At each step, the Grand Poobah SHALL choose a player whose caste is as high as possible without equalling or exceeding the new caste: a) Flip a player's caste to Alpha b) Flip a player's caste to Beta c) Flip a player's caste to Gamma d) Flip a player's caste to Delta 2) Demotions. Each step is repeated as many times as needed. b-c) While there are more than two Betas, flip a Beta's caste to Gamma c-d) While there are more than three Gammas, flip a Gamma's caste to Delta d-e) While there are more than four Deltas, flip a Delta's caste to Epsilon
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Grand Poobah] Caste Report
Goethe wrote: In this case, all demotions failed, as BobTHJ would have had to demote a Beta first. (I think once you do skip a step, everything after that is platonically blocked because the CAN implied with the SHALL is pegged to doing things in order, if you do it out of order, you no longer CAN). Agreements/disagreements with this interpretation? Agreed, but e CAN pick up where e left off. (But does SHALL successfully imply CAN? The rule never says by announcement.)