DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:37 AM, omd wrote: > translationparty.com By the way: ... Independent non-recursive thoughts and ideas of people, all living organisms can usually see out outbound communication with. ... Usually, you can see biological ideas of outbound communications and independence of all non-recursive thought. Usually you can see the biological idea of sending communications and independence of all recursive thought. ... Recursive biological ideas can see many independent transmission.
DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Nicholas Evans wrote: > [An attempt at very simply tightening the restraints against attempting to > register things that cannot utilize language to communicate their own ideas. > While originating and communicating imply intentionality, they're hard to > disprove when given a sufficiently clever sentence generator. Rephrasing > implies understanding of the semantics of a language, and recursion implies > a cognitive awareness of a language. Combined, these are unlikely to be > spoofed.] I'm somewhat skeptical of the word "organism". If it has to be biological, then just say "human", there's no guarantee hypothetical space aliens or AIs would be considered organisms anyway. :) If not, then you have to deal with the issue that personhood is currently an all or nothing passive affair, while the aforementioned hypothetical entities might not have such rigid boundaries. For example, while it is reasonable (though perhaps unkind) to require Deb and Bob to exist as separate players, because humans tend to be capable of operating with distinct personalities, Vernor Vinge's Tines might not appreciate the sentiment despite having some ability to be split up. This could be mostly solved by only requiring that players be disjoint, but that would require putting restrictions on registration rather than merely tweaking the definition of a person. (Though for an AI which could fork itself on a whim, the concept of "disjoint" might itself be murky.) Finally, I think that the new parts of the proposed wording are not actually that hard for an actual AI to satisfy. After all, automated rephrasing would be a similar problem to machine translation - not 100% accurate but able to produce readable outputs for most inputs. (Well, it can be accomplished in a roundabout way using the latter - do what translationparty.com does for a language easier to translate than Japanese and there's your rephrasing.) "Recursively referring to" is harder to pin down, but probably doable to some extent. /me wonders whether speculating about Tines is too silly for the New Agora. Or is that the Old Agora?
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Game Boost
Sounds interesting to me! - Shredder On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Bayushi 75.03648 66.10239 100 > > Cole -99.45509-10.42519 100 > > G.77.75097 66.02111 102 > > [Etc.] > > It occurs to me that a victory condition might be starting at > these locations and getting exactly to 0.0 with velocity 0.0. > > Might change the "just grab as many Numbers as you can" to > hunting for specific ones, with finesse. > > Thoughts? > > -G. > > > >
DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Game Boost
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Bayushi 75.03648 66.10239 100 > Cole -99.45509-10.42519 100 > G.77.75097 66.02111 102 > [Etc.] It occurs to me that a victory condition might be starting at these locations and getting exactly to 0.0 with velocity 0.0. Might change the "just grab as many Numbers as you can" to hunting for specific ones, with finesse. Thoughts? -G.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Game Boost
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I hereby set each player's score as required by the Operations manual, > > > then > > > round each player's score to 5 decimal places, as per R2419, for the > > > resulting > > > player scores below. > > > > Would you mind publishing the new manual? > > Only thing missing is the operators; am going to deal out some more in a bit > (after I take out those just-deregistered players). Er, just looked at the clock... may or may not happen tonight. -G.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Game Boost
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I hereby set each player's score as required by the Operations manual, then > > round each player's score to 5 decimal places, as per R2419, for the > > resulting > > player scores below. > > Would you mind publishing the new manual? Only thing missing is the operators; am going to deal out some more in a bit (after I take out those just-deregistered players). Note: Operators weren't restricted to players, so non-players continue to possess operators. Need to go back and re-read what it means (if anything) to pillage those! -G.
DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Game Boost
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I hereby set each player's score as required by the Operations manual, then > round each player's score to 5 decimal places, as per R2419, for the resulting > player scores below. Would you mind publishing the new manual? - o "utterly lazy" md
DIS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] Judicial List
On 2/6/2014 4:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Followup: here's my judicial list (combining people standing/sitting in the old system who have posted since Jan 1 with people so far expressing interest): ais523, G., woggle, omd, Tiger, Shredder, Murphy. (Sprocklem, Nichdel, Yally would be good additions based on recent activity level, but leaving them off until they say 'yea'). -G. yea -nichdel
DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Report
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Ed Murphy wrote: > Depending on the judgement of ais523's recent CFJ, it's possible > (though I doubt it) that these events also occurred, and that anyone > else who did not re-register since Proposal 7614 is no longer a > player (the remainder of this report notwithstanding): Note: The CFJ was terminated by the adoption of the new CFJ process; if it needs resolution, it needs to be called again (I was leaving it for ais523 to decide if it was still relevant). -G.
