Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Auction regulations again

2020-07-17 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-07-17 23:25, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:

You know the drill.


Oh, and by the way I'm going to start another card auction in about a 
day from now so just prepare yourselves.


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DIS: [Treasuror] Auction regulations again

2020-07-17 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

You know the drill.

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METHOD 0: Generalized Auction

Generalized auctions exist to give context to the form of other types of
auctions. They cannot be held directly. Other auction methods that use
this type of auction as a starting point can override attributes of
generalized auctions except when it is explicitly stated that that
attribute is not able to be overridden.

1. INITIATION:
   * The auctioneer CAN begin an auction that e is authorized to by
 creating a public message (henceforth the "initiation message"),
 specifying the type of auction method that will be held, a list of
 lots that will be auctioned off, and the currency that the auction
 uses. Bidding is initally open.
   * Derivative auction methods cannot specify the exclusion of any
 information listed above from the initiation message of auctions
 using that method.
2. BIDDING:
   * Players CAN place a bid on an open auction by creating a public
 message (henceforth a "bid message") specifying a number of the
 auction's currency as eir bid not equal to the bid of another
 player.
   * Players CAN withdraw from an open auction by announcement.
3. TERMINATION:
   * Bidding is closed four days after either the beginning of the
 auction or after the most recent bid was placed, whichever is
 later. The auction ends at this time as well.
4. AWARDING:
   * For each auction, there are a number of awardees equal to the
 number of lots. The Nth lot of an auction goes to the Nth awardee
 of that auction. If the identity of an awardee is undecidable, then
 that lot cannot be given away.
   * Auction methods specify how awardees are picked for auctions using
 that method.
   * Derivative auction methods should ensure that only players who have
 at least as much of that auction's currency as eir highest bid on
 that auction (hereafter "funded players") can be selected as
 awardees for auctions using that auction method.
   * The auctioneer of an auction SHALL within, four days after the
 ending of that auction, create a public message (henceforth the
 "termination message") that contains a full history of bids on the
 auction and withdrawals from the auction. It should also clearly
 indicate each awardee and the lot e recieves.
5. CLAIMING:
   * For a period of seven days after an auction ends, each awardee of
 that auction CAN transfer (or create in eir own possession if the
 item is new) the set of assets associated with the lot e won by
 paying a fee corresponding to eir winning bid.

METHOD 1: Forward Auctions

Forward auctions function like generalized auctions except:

* The Nth awardee for a forward auction is the player who submitted the
  Nth-highest bid in the set of all funded, non-withdrawn players'
  highest bids on that auction.

METHOD 2: Sealed-bid Auctions

Sealed-bid auctions function like generalized auctions except:

* Players can only submit bids on a sealed-bid auction if they do not
  have a bid in that auction.
* Bids must be initially hidden so that it is impossible to tell its
  value but that it is verifiable that the amount bid was decided before
  the bid was placed. Anything that claims to be a bid and fits these
  conditions is considered a bid.
* Sealed-bid auctions do not end when bidding is closed. Instead, they
  end four days afterward.
* Each player SHOULD reveal eir bid amount on a sealed-bid auction while
  the auction is closed but has not ended. If e does not do so then eir
  bid is nulled.
* The termination message also includes whether or not each bid is null.
* The Nth awardee of a sealed-bid auction is the non-withdrawn funded
  player whose bid is not nulled and is the Nth highest of all bids
  placed.

METHOD 3: Second-price Auctions

Second-price auctions function like forward auctions except:

* When claiming lots in a second-price auction, awardees instead pay a
  fee corresponding to the next-highest bid in the set of all funded,
  non-withdrawn players' highest bids in that auction.

METHOD 4: Nonwinning-price Auctions

Nonwinning-price auctions function like forward auctions except:

* When claiming lots in a nonwinning-price auction, awardees instead pay
  a fee corresponding to the highest bid on that auction from a funded,
  non-withdrawn player who is not an awardee.

METHOD 5: Selective-bid Auctions

Selective-bit auctions function like generalized auctions except:

* Bidding messages on a selective-bid auction must also specify a lot
  that is preferred.
* The Nth awardee of a selective-bid auction is the highest bid from a
  funded, non-withdrawn player whose preferred bid is that lot.

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DIS: Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of Proposals

2020-07-17 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/17/20 8:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> It is now after 00:00 UTC on July 18, 2020, so the fifth negotiating
> phase has begun. You may now submit orders. Please remember to include
> conditional orders for retreating because civil unrest never serves
> nations well.

I should obviously correct that this was not the case.


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DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Fall 1902

2020-07-17 Thread omd via agora-discussion

Updated:

https://agoranomic.org/omd-diplonomic-2020-maps/


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

2020-07-17 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

On 7/17/2020 12:34 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:

On 7/12/2020 11:24 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote:

8476e^  ATMunn, [1]  1.0   Contract charities
AGAINST


R. Lee, I would kindly ask you to withdraw this vote. If you do so, I 
can get an orange ribbon for this proposal and get a transparent ribbon. 
I will gladly pay you in coins or cards (though I don't have all that 
much at the moment).


Or at the very least, if you are so adamantly against the proposal that 
you are not willing to change your vote, I would appreciate an 
explanation as to what is wrong with the proposal.


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ATMunn
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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

2020-07-17 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

On 7/12/2020 11:24 PM, N. S. via agora-business wrote:

8476e^  ATMunn, [1]  1.0   Contract charities
AGAINST


R. Lee, I would kindly ask you to withdraw this vote. If you do so, I 
can get an orange ribbon for this proposal and get a transparent ribbon. 
I will gladly pay you in coins or cards (though I don't have all that 
much at the moment).


--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Daily Status of Play: Fall 1902 Part 2

2020-07-17 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/17/20 12:19 AM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I'd appreciate if everyone could put in votes on these proposals if they
>> haven't already because that would possibly lessen the tracking load. I
>> also still think that it might be a good time to start thinking about
>> more substantive proposals.
> 
> I don't see anything in the Diplonomic rules about voting against
> proposals. Are you saying that if at least half the players tell you
> they're voting against a proposal, you'll stop publishing it in these
> daily messages?
> 

I've been thinking about that. I think I might because the Diplonomic
rules allow votes AGAINST but don't really do anything with them.

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