DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] 2021 Birthday Tournament: Survivor

2021-06-27 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 10:58 AM nix via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> As Herald I intend, without 3 objections, to initiate the following
> tournament:
>
> {
>
> #0 Participation
>
> The Host is the Herald. Any other player of Agora CAN become a
> Contestant by announcement any time before the game starts. If the Host
> is a Contestant, Player, and/or Ghost, e ceases to be.
>
> The Host CAN start the game by announcement. At the time of the
> announcement, all Contestants become Survivors.
>
> Any Contestant may quit by announcement, and cease being a Contestant,
> Survivor, and/or Ghost. The Host CAN, by announcement, cause a specified
> Contestant who has not posted a public message in 7 days to cease to be
> a Survivor and become a Ghost.
>
> #1 Winning
>
> The winner is the Contestant who Outlasts all other Contestants. A
> Contestant outlasts all other Contestants if e is the only Survivor.
>
> #2 Teams
>
> When the game starts, the host SHALL announce the teams. E may choose
> teams however e wants, as long as they are even in number of contestants
> (plus or minus 1).
>
> #3 Rounds
>
> A Round is 7 days from a Monday through a Sunday. Monday through Friday
> are the default Competition Period for a Round while Saturday through
> Sunday are the default Voting Period for a Round. The Host CAN, by
> announcement, end a Competition Period and start a Voting period early.
> E SHOULD only do so when the Competition Period's events have clearly
> ended.
>
> The first round begins the next Monday after the game starts. Until the
> Pre-Finale, a new round starts every Monday.
>
> #3.1 Competitions
>
> Each round contains a Competition defined by a Sealed Letter that the
> Host CAN and SHALL issue, by announcement, on or before the Monday of
> the round. The Competition begins either at the beginning of Monday or
> when the Sealed Letter is issued, whichever is later.
>
> A Sealed Letter specifies a Competition's rules and Immunity Condition.
> The Immunity Condition of a Sealed Letter:
>
> * SHOULD NOT encourage players to break the rules of Agora or commit an
>Agoran Crime,
>
> * SHOULD NOT require undo effort on the part of any one individual, and
>
> * SHOULD NOT intentionally favor one person or team.
>
> The Host CAN, by announcement, and SHALL grant immunity to all teams and
> all Contestant that meet the Immunity Condition.
>
> The Host CAN issue a Clarifying Letter by announcement. Clarifying
> Letters are binding interpretations of their corresponding Sealed
> Letters. The Host SHOULD issue a Clarifying Letter whenever e believes
> players/teams are confused, frustrated, or on the wrong track.
>
> #3.2 Voting
>
> During a Voting Period, each Contestant whose team is not immune CAN,
> by sending a message to the Host, Vote to Expel any non-immune member
> of eir team.
>
> The Host CAN, by announcement, and SHALL, by the end of the following
> Monday, Expel all non-immune Contestants who were specified the most by
> eir team. When a Contestant is Expelled, e ceases to be a Survivor and
> becomes a Ghost. E is no longer part of eir team.
>
> #Plot Holes
>
> The Host CAN, with Agoran Consent, amend these rules as specified. E
> SHOULD only attempt to do so to fix unintended behavior or bugs.
>

Does this work?

Rule 2495, "The Birthday Tournament", says:

"After adequate time for discussion of the Birthday Tournament's
regulations, the Herald (or delegate) CAN initiate a sanctioned
tournament, promulgating a specified, finalized set of tournament
regulations, without 3 objections. This title may thereafter be
amended only by the Herald or eir designee Without 3 Objections. The
initiation SHOULD be timed to coincide with Agora's Birthday."

Although "title" is no longer defined, I think it's reasonably clear
from context and its legal definition, so I don't think this works.

The good news is that having an inoperative provision in the
regulations doesn't break them overall, so we can go ahead with
adopting them.

-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] @Treasuror: Courtesy Notification of Fingers & VC Claim

2021-06-27 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:54 AM Telna via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2021-06-28 11:09, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote:
> > The person who pointed the most fingers that led to a positive resolution
> > in the most recent agoran week may claim a Justice Card under R2478.
> >
> > Only one finger had such a resolution in the previous agoran week: my
> > finger at Gaelan (resolved by Telnaior). I am therefore able to claim a
> > Justice Card.
> >
> > I claim a Justice Card.
> >
> That's not true, my Unjustified Gesticulation resolved that week as well.
>
Oh TRUE. So I don't have a justice card, I have a BBG and 2 blots. Sorry
Treasuror!

-- 
>From R. Lee


DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] @Treasuror: Courtesy Notification of Fingers & VC Claim

2021-06-27 Thread Telna via agora-discussion

On 2021-06-28 11:09, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote:

The person who pointed the most fingers that led to a positive resolution
in the most recent agoran week may claim a Justice Card under R2478.

Only one finger had such a resolution in the previous agoran week: my
finger at Gaelan (resolved by Telnaior). I am therefore able to claim a
Justice Card.

I claim a Justice Card.


That's not true, my Unjustified Gesticulation resolved that week as well.


DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister

2021-06-27 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 7:03 AM Edward Murphy via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I initiate an Agoran decision to eslect the winner of the election for
> Prime Minister.
>
>* The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me).
>
>* The valid options are ais523, ATMunn, G., R. Lee, and anyone else
>  who becomes a candidate before voting ends.
>
>* The voting method is instant runoff.
>

I vote 1. Myself 2. Atmunn 3. G

>


DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Notice of Election

2021-06-27 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

I wrote:


Current term-limited offices:

Office Holder Since Last Election Complexity

ADoP ~*Murphy 2020-07-03    2020-06-27    1
Assessor ~ Jason  2019-07-09    2020-07-27    3
Ministor ~ nix    2020-10-28    (never)   1
Notary   ~ ATMunn 2020-10-12    2021-01-17    2
Promotor ~ Aris   2016-10-21    2017-09-21    3
Rulekeepor   ~ Jason  2019-12-06    2020-03-07    3
Stonemason   ~ Jason  2020-11-11    (never)   1
Treasuror    ~ Trigon 2020-05-01    2020-05-01    3
Webmastor    ~ nix    2020-06-03    2020-06-13    1

   - Ministor enacted on 2020-10-28
   - Stonemason enacted on 2020-11-11


Sorry, this was off a bit, it was checking the held-since date rather
than the last-election date. Actual list would have been:

ADoP ~*Murphy 2020-07-032020-06-271
Arbitor  ~*Telna  2021-06-222019-11-232
Assessor ~ Jason  2019-07-092020-07-273
Prime Minister   ~ Trigon 2021-02-142021-02-140
Promotor ~ Aris   2016-10-212017-09-213
Registrar~*Aris   2021-04-042020-02-261
Rulekeepor   ~ Jason  2019-12-062020-03-073
Tailor   ~*Murphy 2021-02-282020-04-191
Treasuror~ Trigon 2020-05-012020-05-013
Webmastor~ nix2020-06-032020-06-131

Not included:
  * Herald, Notary, Referee (recent elections)
  * Ministor, Stonemason (no elections)
  * Distributor, Speaker (imposed)


I publish the following Notice of Election:

   - Promotor
   - Rulekeepor
   - Treasuror
   - Webmastor

Per new rule "The Election Cycle", this initiates an election for each
of these offices.


So this SHOULD have instead been Promotor, Arbitor, Registrar, and
Rulekeepor. Fortunately the next Election Cycle can start as early as a
few days from now (expected to be Arbitor, Registrar, Tailor, ADoP).


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup

2021-06-27 Thread Trigon via agora-discussion

On 26/06/2021 02:36, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:>

Did we ever learn what these did?


I lost the hashed text for these contracts so it's impossible to say for 
certain but using the four-letter identifiers and rough memories:

On 6/18/2021 11:50 AM, ATMunn wrote:

I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 1: 
GIFT".


I think this one was a free card from me to the other participant.


I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 2: 
POEM".


This one would require me to write a poem (maybe a limerick?) in honor 
of everyone who joined the contract and could pay me five coins.



I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 5: 
DECK".


I'm less sure of myself here but I think this one would make me swap a 
random card that I had with someone else's.



I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 6: 
BOON".


All I can say about this one was that it was going to be the most 
prestigious contract and also the most expensive.


--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Floating salaries (attn Treasuror)

2021-06-27 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

Trigon wrote:

I would like to humbly request that the H. ADoP inform me in advance if 
e decides to change the formatting of these messages. To save myself 
some time I wrote a script written that parses the previous award format 
into the language that the Treasuror automation interprets. Receiving 
something like this with 20 minutes to spare before the Agoran week was 
up gave me a panic attack.


Will do. That was a one-off because that CFJ was still up in the air at
the time, thus I was holding off on entering stuff into my automation
(which is not geared to recalculate gamestate after deleting something
that was determined to be ineffective, I have to manually patch the data
if that happens).


Re: DIS: Test

2021-06-27 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

Jason wrote:


I intend, without objection, to intend, without objection, to declare
Apathy.

[G. suggested the archives went down on Discord.]


https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/2015/08/no-1973-1975.html


Re: DIS: humble agoran farmer makes a request to the PM [Attn. Prime Minister]

2021-06-27 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 6/27/21 11:10 AM, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> This seems like it'd be better done through a proposal. Also, could you link 
> to the context for this? Are you saying they tried to pay you and it failed 
> for some reason? Did they get their side of the deal?

Replace "they" and "their" with "e" and "eir". Sorry about that!

--
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald




Re: DIS: humble agoran farmer makes a request to the PM [Attn. Prime Minister]

2021-06-27 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 6/27/21 7:49 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> Hi. I made a deal with seventeenmachine to get a Victory Card from them (it
> was one of those several Promises that were cashed but did nothing), but
> they seem to be MIA.
>
> Requesting an Emergency Regulation (which can transfer assets) to transfer
> 1 Victory Card from them to me to honor it.
>
> Thanks.

This seems like it'd be better done through a proposal. Also, could you link to 
the context for this? Are you saying they tried to pay you and it failed for 
some reason? Did they get their side of the deal?
--
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald




DIS: humble agoran farmer makes a request to the PM [Attn. Prime Minister]

2021-06-27 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Hi. I made a deal with seventeenmachine to get a Victory Card from them (it
was one of those several Promises that were cashed but did nothing), but
they seem to be MIA.

Requesting an Emergency Regulation (which can transfer assets) to transfer
1 Victory Card from them to me to honor it.

Thanks.