DIS: Re: (@treasuror) BUS: Using focus, Refiling device

2022-02-01 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2022-02-02 at 00:44 +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> El 02/02/2022 a las 00:42, ais523 via agora-business escribió:
> > On Tue, 2022-02-01 at 18:38 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > > I intend to refile the device, without objection, under the new title
> > > "The Device OWO".
> > 
> > I object:
> > 
> > a) The Device is a switch, not a rule.
> > b) The rule defining the Device is mentioned by name in another rule.
> > Refiling it would break that reference.
> > 
> 
> Rule 2654/21, paragraph 1, bullet point 4:
> > * Any player CAN refile a Device without objection, specifying a
> >   new title; the Device is retitled to the specified title by
> >   this Device.

Ah right – I forgot that was there (it's been a while since we added it
though). I'm not sure it's a well-formed bit of ruletext, though.

The Device doesn't have a title in the same sense that rules do, and I
therefore don't think changing its title would rename it, so I continue
to object but for a different reason – it should be given a title
that's more like a title, rather than a name. (We have Patent Titles
for this purpose already, although I suspect this would be a non-Patent 
title.)

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] quorum fix

2022-02-01 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 2/1/2022 2:48 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2/1/22 16:38, Rose Strong via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Unless I am completely misunderstanding the CFJ 3938 ruling a quorum can
>> never be 1.
>>
> 
> That's under the current rules, due to the clause that would be changed
> here. There's nothing inherently saying quorum can't be 1, that's just
> what R879 says right now. 

I think it went negative at least once before we had that 2 limit on there.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] quorum fix

2022-02-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/1/22 16:38, Rose Strong via agora-discussion wrote:
> Unless I am completely misunderstanding the CFJ 3938 ruling a quorum can
> never be 1.
>

That's under the current rules, due to the clause that would be changed
here. There's nothing inherently saying quorum can't be 1, that's just
what R879 says right now.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] quorum fix

2022-02-01 Thread Rose Strong via agora-discussion
Unless I am completely misunderstanding the CFJ 3938 ruling a quorum can
never be 1.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 4:08 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> I submit the following proposal, "sole quorum", AI-3.  I pay a pendant to
> pend it.
>
> ---
>
> Amend Rule 879 (Quorum) by changing its power to 3.
>
> [the basic definition of quorum should be power-3 along with the rest of
> voting, right?]
>
>
> Amend Rule 879 (Quorum) by replacing:
>   As an exception to the previous paragraph, the quorum of an
>   Agoran decision can never be less than 2. If the rules would
>   attempt to set the quorum of an Agoran decision to less than 2,
>   it is set to 2 instead.
> with:
>   As an exception to the previous paragraph, the minimum quorum of
>   an Agoran decision is 2, or 1 if there are fewer than 2 players in
>   the game. If the rules would attempt to set the quorum of an Agoran
>   decision to less than the minimum quorum, it is set to the minimum
>   instead.
>
> [If 1 person is the only player, that should be quorum.  Less than 1 is
> game-breaking trouble, so minimum=1 protects extra against the final
> deregistration]
>
> ---
>
>


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [not-Arbitor] Judge List update

2022-02-01 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
Please add me to the judge list.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:58 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 08:51:11AM -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-official
> wrote:
> >
> > This is the list from the last true Arbitor's report + a couple requested
> > changes.  Please reply to add/subtract yourself if desired...
> >
> > Regular Judges:
> > ais523
> > Jason
> > Murphy
> > G.
> > R. Lee
> >
> > Occasional Judges:
> > Aspen
> > Falsifian
>
> Please remove me.
>
> --
> Falsifian
>