Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3964 assigned to G.
On 5/31/22 21:50, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > These definitions lead to at least three different reasonable possibilities > I can see: > > The initiator of the device is the one who started it, or proposed it. (The > "special rites" of proposing the device fit nicely here.) > > The initiator is the one that instructs the device. (This could be the > device rule or the Mad Engineer, as both can instruct the device to perform > certain actions) > > The initiator is the one that started the device up, or turned it on. > > Of these, the first makes the most sense, as CFJs are similarly proposed, > but as statements to be judged rather than a rule change to be voted on. > The second is a bit of a reach considering the device isn't a person, so > saying it is instructed or introduced to something doesn't make much sense. > The third would be a potential contender if the rule said "the initiators", > but as there is only one initiator, it makes more sense to go with the > single player that proposed the device to start it off, G., who is not > ais523, meaning ais523 is eligible. Someone mentioned that the initiator may be the proposal that created the device, rather than the author of the proposal. Doesn't affect the outcome, but if you're going to definitively rule on who the initiator is, that should at least be considered as an option (and I think it's somewhat more convincing as an option than the author of the proposal). CFJs aren't completely analogous, since a person initiates a CFJ, while only an instrument enacts rules. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection
"After an election is initiated and until nominations close, any player CAN become a Device by announcement." or "If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the Device immediately." -- secretsnail
DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection
On Wed, 2022-06-01 at 18:20 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 48
> This is R2154, Election Procedure.
For reference:
{{{
When an election is initiated, it enters the nomination period,
which lasts for 4 days. After an election is initiated and until
nominations close, any player CAN become a candidate by
announcement. A candidate ceases to be a candidate if e ceases to
be a player during the election or if holding the office would
make em Overpowered. During the nomination period, a candidate CAN
cease to be a candidate by announcement if there is at least one
other candidate.
An election whose nomination period is complete is contested if it
has two or more candidates, and uncontested otherwise. Nominations
close at the end of the poll's voting period or when the election
is ended, whichever comes first.
After the nomination period ends, the ADoP (or, if the office is
the ADoP, the Assessor) CAN and, in a timely fashion, SHALL:
1) If the election is contested, initiate an Agoran decision to
select the winner of the election (the poll). For this
decision, the Vote Collector is the ADoP (or, if the office is
the ADoP, the Assessor), the valid options are the candidates
for that election (including those who become candidates after
its initiation), and the voting method is instant runoff. When
the poll is resolved, its outcome, if a player, wins the
election. If the outcome is not a player, the election ends
with no winner.
2) If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the election
immediately.
If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate,
then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the
election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point
an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN
declare the election ended with no winner by announcement.
When a player wins an election, e is installed into the associated
office and the election ends.
}}}
Any suggestions?
--
ais523
Mad Engineer
