Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Finger Pointing on Distribution of Proposals 8717-8811

[Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion]

Yeah, I thought as much, but I didn't know it was traditional.
Oh well!

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DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Finger Pointing on Distribution of Proposals 8717-8811

[Jason Cobb via agora-discussion]

On 7/11/22 19:24, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
>> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/22 19:09, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
 PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW

 I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on
>> it,
 and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
 collector
 is the Assessor, the quorum is 2, the voting method is AI-majority, and
>>> the
 valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
 conditional votes).


 ID  Author(s)   AITitle

>> ---
 8717~   Murphy, secretsnail 3.0   Normalize ribbons
 ...
>>> CoE: The quorum on each of the above referenda was 5, determined by the
>>> 7 voters on the referendum on Proposal 8699.
>>>
>>> And, solely because e's trying to win, I point my finger at Secretsnail9
>>> for failure to state the quorum of the referendum on Proposal 8717, in
>>> violation of Rule 879.
>>>
>> I did in fact commit this offense but I ask it be forgivable because it
>> makes more sense for quorum, which affects all Agoran decisions, to be
>> determined by all Agoran decisions. The current Rule is unintuitive, in my
>> opinion, which is why I made my mistake. (Also "referendum" doesn't sound
>> like it would only apply to proposals, which it does.)
>>
>> ...
>>
>> --
>> secretsnail
>>
> I impose the Cold Hand of Justice on secretsnail for the violation of Rule
> 879.
> As this is a rule violation, it seems like it is a crime of at least class
> 2.
> As there is potential profit in letting the quorum remain so low, and that
> this
> was done from a position of authority, we should increase the fine.
> As this crime is seemingly accidental, and is relatively inconsequential,
> as it does not permanently affect the required quorum needed for the
> decision,
> and the quorum could have been corrected with a CoE, we should decrease the
> fine.
>
> Therefore, I levy a fine of 2 blots on secretsnail.
> Additionally, I find this offense to be forgivable. 8 words to include in
> the 200 word apology
> are: "it doesn't necessarily make more sense for quorum."
>
> --
> 4st, Referee


Traditionally, the mandatory apology words are unrelated and do not form
a coherent sentence. In this case it would be keeping in line with
tradition for Secretsnail9 to use all of the words without using that
sentence (which is probably relatively easy in this case).

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Jason Cobb

Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Floating salaries (attn Treasuror)

[secretsnail9 via agora-discussion]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 8:07 PM Edward Murphy via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I think the Unit of Flotation is still 104, in which case these expand
> to:
>*  5 boatloads of coins ->  520 coins
>* 10 boatloads of coins -> 1040 coins
>* 15 boatloads of coins -> 1560 coins
>

The UoF is actually 147, so it should be
   *  5 boatloads of coins ->  735 coins
   * 10 boatloads of coins -> 1470 coins
   * 15 boatloads of coins -> 2205 coins

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