DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Long forgotten fix
On 2023-11-19 19:11, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > oh wait. Maybe this did work. This proposal IS up for vote. Lol! > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 4:09 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's lovely! Unfortunately, due to the arcane beaurocracy presented by >> the Law of Agora, >> this proposal is not up for vote yet! >> The process currently in place is basically: >> Submit proposal (that's what snail did here) -> Promotor Distributes -> >> Players vote -> Assessor resolves the decision >> >> On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 4:07 PM Goren Barak via agora-business < >> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> On 2023-11-19 16:24, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >>> > I submit the following proposal: >>> > >>> > // >>> > Title: A simple fix >>> > Adoption index: 1.0 >>> > Author: snail >>> > Co-authors: nix >>> > >>> > >>> > [We tried to fix this back in April but it got wrapped up in a bigger >>> stamp >>> > rework proposal, which failed.] >>> > >>> > Amend R2659 (Stamps) by replacing: >>> > >>> > Any player CAN win by paying N Stamps >>> > >>> > with: >>> > >>> > Any active player CAN win by paying N Stamps >>> > >>> > // >>> > -- >>> > snail >>> >>> I vote FOR on this proppsal. >>> >> >> >> -- >> 4ˢᵗ >> >> Uncertified Bad Idea Generator >> Well, I guess I did vote FOR!
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Long forgotten fix
On 2023-11-19 19:09, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > That's lovely! Unfortunately, due to the arcane beaurocracy presented by > the Law of Agora, > this proposal is not up for vote yet! > The process currently in place is basically: > Submit proposal (that's what snail did here) -> Promotor Distributes -> > Players vote -> Assessor resolves the decision > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 4:07 PM Goren Barak via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 2023-11-19 16:24, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >> > I submit the following proposal: >> > >> > // >> > Title: A simple fix >> > Adoption index: 1.0 >> > Author: snail >> > Co-authors: nix >> > >> > >> > [We tried to fix this back in April but it got wrapped up in a bigger >> stamp >> > rework proposal, which failed.] >> > >> > Amend R2659 (Stamps) by replacing: >> > >> > Any player CAN win by paying N Stamps >> > >> > with: >> > >> > Any active player CAN win by paying N Stamps >> > >> > // >> > -- >> > snail >> >> I vote FOR on this proppsal. >> Well, I'm planning to vote FOR.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Long forgotten fix
On 11/19/23 18:44, Goren Barak via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2023-11-19 16:24, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> // >> Title: A simple fix >> Adoption index: 1.0 >> Author: snail >> Co-authors: nix >> >> >> [We tried to fix this back in April but it got wrapped up in a bigger stamp >> rework proposal, which failed.] >> >> Amend R2659 (Stamps) by replacing: >> >> Any player CAN win by paying N Stamps >> >> with: >> >> Any active player CAN win by paying N Stamps >> >> // >> -- >> snail > I vote FOR on this proposal. This fails for going to DIS. Also, it's much easier for me if you vote in the distribution thread (and you can vote on all of the other proposals as well in one message). -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
DIS: Re: OFF: I envision gardens.
On 11/19/23 18:58, Goren Barak via agora-official wrote: > For my dream, I envision Gardens. Thank you. Please don't send your personal actions to OFF. It's intended to be used for officer reports and the like. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Long forgotten fix
On 2023-11-19 16:24, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > // > Title: A simple fix > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: snail > Co-authors: nix > > > [We tried to fix this back in April but it got wrapped up in a bigger stamp > rework proposal, which failed.] > > Amend R2659 (Stamps) by replacing: > > Any player CAN win by paying N Stamps > > with: > > Any active player CAN win by paying N Stamps > > // > -- > snail I vote FOR on this proposal.
Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy
On 11/19/23 09:37, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 03:57 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 11/19/23 03:55, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to >>> win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it >> The last time we incentivized finger-pointing for personal economic gain >> we had a long-term player FAGE. This is not something we should be >> trying to repeat. > This isn't intended to incentivize finger-pointing – there is no reward > for being the person who notes an infraction, only a penalty for the > person who infracted. > > Do you think that people would be sufficiently anxious to try to > slightly impede the leader that it would become a problem? > I at least think it's a risk, yeah. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy
On 2023-11-19 00:28, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Similarly, I don't think it's a good to incentivize pointing out minor > crimes. That's caused issues in the past. I actually believe that we might already be doing that by not allowing players with blots to win. People know if they have blots, and the point of blots is to punish them. If this were a proposal, I would vote FOR.
DIS: Re: (@Absurdor) Re: BUS: (@Tailor) festivity paranoia
On 2023-11-18 23:01, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 12:48 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 11/17/23 12:52, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: >> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:03 AM 4st nomic via agora-business < >> > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> > >> >> If Agora's festivity has been greater than 0 for 14 days or more, I >> flip it >> >> to 0 by announcement. >> >> >> > For good measure, I CoE all reports that claim the festivity is non-zero. >> >> >> I deny each such CoE that I can deny. >> >> -- >> Janet Cobb >> >> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason >> >> > As do I. > > also, I push the boulder. > -- > snail i guess the boulder is at 2 now, so let’s get it up. I push the boulder (again).
Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy
On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 03:57 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 11/19/23 03:55, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to > > win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it > > The last time we incentivized finger-pointing for personal economic gain > we had a long-term player FAGE. This is not something we should be > trying to repeat. This isn't intended to incentivize finger-pointing – there is no reward for being the person who notes an infraction, only a penalty for the person who infracted. Do you think that people would be sufficiently anxious to try to slightly impede the leader that it would become a problem? -- ais523
Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy
On 11/19/23 03:55, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to > win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it The last time we incentivized finger-pointing for personal economic gain we had a long-term player FAGE. This is not something we should be trying to repeat. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy
Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 9:29 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/18/23 11:49, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > * Democracy Gem (Assessor): As part of eir weekly duties, the Assessor > > SHALL, and CAN by announcement, award 3 Change Gems to each player who > > voted FOR on at least half the referenda that were resolved that week; > > and SHALL NOT resolve referenda for the rest of the week after doing > > so. > > > I'll have more thoughts later, but for now: > > I don't see why this specifically is something that we want to incentivize. > > > > * Clean Gem (Referee); As part of eir weekly duties, the Referee SHALL, > > and CAN by announcement, grant 2 Clean Gems to each player who does not > > have Blots. > > Similarly, I don't think it's a good to incentivize pointing out minor > crimes. That's caused issues in the past. > > -- > Janet Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason >
