Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Petitions [further attn. Promotor, Arbitor, Tailor, ADoP]

2024-05-02 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/2/24 01:39, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/1/24 13:19, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
 I intend to award Employee of the Year to snail and Janet.
>>> I object, sorry. I think these need to be phrased as separate intents.
>>>
>> I don't think that's true. The rule text says awardable to "the
>> persons", plural. Nothing indicates it cannot be awarded to multiple
>> people, and overall patent titles can belong to entities (and the joint
>> of two players is still an entity). The semantic difference is whether
>> there's one title jointly awarded to both of you (which I think this
>> implies), or two separate titles for each of you.
> 
> 
> It's certainly possible to do, but I don't think we have previously had
> a patent title being (deliberately) awarded to a set of persons (under
> the legal definition, so excluding the instance with BC System), and I
> don't think we should start. At the very least, it'd likely cause
> confusion in the Herald's report?
> 
> In any event, I don't think the intent specifies that clearly enough to
> meet the tabled action standard.
> 

Joint awards are a normal thing in real life, and the announcement would
be pretty much identical to that intent. I really don't see any
specificity issue.

Whether you think it *should* be done this way is a separate question of
whether it works (which I see no rule reason to doubt).

-- 
nix
Arbitor, Spendor



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Petitions [further attn. Promotor, Arbitor, Tailor, ADoP]

2024-05-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/2/24 10:15, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> Joint awards are a normal thing in real life, and the announcement would
> be pretty much identical to that intent. I really don't see any
> specificity issue.


I originally read, and still read, the intent as intending to award a
separate title to each person. If you're reading it the other way (as a
single title awarded to a set of persons), that suggests that the intent
isn't unambiguous.


> Whether you think it *should* be done this way is a separate question of
> whether it works (which I see no rule reason to doubt).

Okay, that's fair.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason