...Wrong forum. Posting it to Agora Discussions.
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:26 PM Yachay Wayllukuq
wrote:
> Assuming that you're "Not Guilty", it should be easy to use a Proposal to
> set your status to the right one. I'd support it.
>
> And if you are "Guilty", we could perhaps convert your sentence to its
> equivalent in Blots (with a Proposal), and then you can redeem yourself
> through the current Blot-removing mechanics.
>
> I am very willing to help with any formal procedure to solve this.
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:09 PM Joshua Boehme via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Nostalgic curiosity brings me to check in on Agora, only to find myself
>> (Elysion) branded a fugitive! This injustice cannot be permitted to
>> continue, and I demand satisfaction in the most Agoran way possible: a
>> pedantic logical argument.
>>
>>
>> (The statements here are true to the best of my knowledge based on my
>> good faith efforts to search the archives; however, as the events in
>> question took place nearly 15 years ago, I cannot rule out the possibility
>> that I overlooked some relevant piece of evidence.)
>>
>> The Scroll of Agora [1] lists me as a fugitive of the old law, defined as
>> "someone who last left Agora before completing eir penal sentence". As the
>> Scroll of Agora has been ratified at least once with that designation
>> listed ([1] ratification noted; [2] such ratified version), I concede that
>> in the view of the Agoran rules such statements as "Elysion last left Agora
>> before completing eir penal sentence" would presumably be judged true. I
>> argue that, absent ratification, such a statement should be judged false.
>>
>> Taken literally, it is straightforwardly false. My last deregistration
>> was 2009-04-07 [3]. Contemporaneous Insulator reports ([4] and [5]) do not
>> list me as a fugitive.
>>
>> A literal interpretation does not fully capture the spirit of the
>> designation, though, as one could deregister before a controversy is fully
>> decided, or indeed before another player can even initiate the process to
>> resolve the controversy. That does not apply in this case, though, as my
>> fugitive status arose as a side effect of the Blissful Solitude scam [6] in
>> September 2009, months after my deregistration. The Insulator reports
>> immediately prior [7] and after [8] (in particular, the recent event
>> "ais523 plays Stool Pidgeon to create a rest in PBA's possession (one rest
>> created in the possession of each first-class member of the basis)")
>> document the change in my status.
>>
>> Therefore, even assuming for now that the Blissful Solitude scam did
>> cause me to gain a rest when I was no longer a player -- a question I am
>> setting aside for now as arguing otherwise would require a detailed
>> understanding of the relevant rules at the time -- I was not currently or
>> imminently subject to any penal sentence at the time of my last
>> deregistration.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg13854.html
>>
>> [2]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg09593.html
>>
>> [3]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg12958.html
>>
>> [4]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg02963.html
>>
>> [5]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg03010.html
>>
>> [6]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg17498.html
>>
>> [7]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg04015.html
>>
>> [8]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg04103.html
>>
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