DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Birthday Tournament: Highest Number Game

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 21:00, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> I made some adjustments to the highest number game, focusing more on
> strategy than trying to come up with enormous numbers. Please let me know
> what you think! I'll hold off on initiating if anyone tells me to.
>
> I intend, without 3 objections, to initiate a sanctioned tournament,
> promulgating the following Tournament Regulation:
>
> HIGHEST NUMBER GAME
>

Before this begins, I think it would be useful if we set social
expectations on what forms of Agoran mechanics are acceptable here (and
potentially use an updated regulation with explicit text). For instance,
Diplonomic had an agreement against contracts.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Birthday Tournament: Highest Number Game

2024-06-30 Thread Kiako via agora-discussion

Woah, it's tournament time!

On 6/30/24 8:00 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:

I made some adjustments to the highest number game, focusing more on 
strategy than trying to come up with enormous numbers. Please let me 
know what you think! I'll hold off on initiating if anyone tells me 
to. I intend, without 3 objections, to initiate a sanctioned 
tournament, promulgating the following Tournament Regulation:


The idea overall seems very nice. Only word of caution I would propose 
would be restricting the set of allowed numbers, but that seems to be 
handled quite elegantly already!


If bidding would begin for the 4th time, instead the party or parties 
with the most tokens win the tournament.


The phrasing on this feels like it may be masking what the actual intent 
is. Perhaps something like:


{

  At the end of the third week in which revealing began, the party or 
parties with the most tokens win this tournament, and this tournament ends.


}

could better get the intent across? (If I understand correctly, this 
shouldn't cause issues, since the leader is granted tokens "immediately 
before the end of the week".)



--

kiako


DIS: [Stonemason] Sortition notice

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
I will not be becoming an option in the ongoing Stonemason sortition.
Anybody who wants to be Stonemason should feel free to do so.

If the sortition does not select a new Stonemason, I will resign after
P9136 (presumably) passes.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [proposal] It's about time

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 17:59, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, 2024-06-30 at 11:34 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>>  5. Any anniversary, monthly anniversary, or quarterly anniversary that
>>     would otherwise occur on a day of the month that does not exist
>>     (after considering any leap day) instead occurs on the following day.
> What's the day that follows a nonexistent day? You probably mean
> "instead occurs on the first day of the following month".
>

That language is unchanged from P9123. I'm disinclined to make
functional changes in this proposal.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



DIS: Re: OFF: [proposal] It's about time

2024-06-30 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2024-06-30 at 11:34 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>  5. Any anniversary, monthly anniversary, or quarterly anniversary that
>     would otherwise occur on a day of the month that does not exist
>     (after considering any leap day) instead occurs on the following day.

What's the day that follows a nonexistent day? You probably mean
"instead occurs on the first day of the following month".

-- 
ais523


DIS: Re: BUS: Expediting sortition procedure

2024-06-30 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Instant approval from me..
--
juniper

On Mon, 1 July 2024, 7:33 am Edward Murphy via agora-business, <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> [This time window happens to clash with my usual late-Sunday schedule.]
>
> I submit a promise to the Library, titled "2024 Q3 Initiate Sortition",
> with the following text:
> {
> Cashing condition: It is on or after 1 July 2024, 00:00 UTC.
>
> For each of the following offices, I initiate a sortition for it:
>* Absurdor
>* Collector
>* Geologist
>* Illuminator
>* Spendor
>* Stonemason
>* Webmastor
> }
>
> --
> [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]
>


DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9125-9133

2024-06-30 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

I vote as follows (and have updated the spreadsheet):


9125~   4st 1.0   (n/a)


AGAINST


9126~   Mischief2.0   More Stone Cleanup


endorse Stonemason


9127~   Mischief2.0   There Aren't Many Stone Idioms in
English


FOR


9128~   Janet   2.0   Stone cost reset v2


endorse Stonemason


9129~   Janet   1.0   Amendments are hard, okay?


FOR


9130~   Janet, Gaelan   1.0   Revision numbers, revised


FOR


9131~   Mischief1.0   Rare Stamps


endorse Collector


9132*   Mischief, Janet 3.0   Fashionable Manners v1.1


FOR


9133*   snail   3.0   Last from the Past


FOR

--
[ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2024-06-30 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

Juniper wrote:


Query: This report lists my lateness as !!! - but Simplifior was only
enacted in the past 24 hrs, right? Am I misinterpreting something in
this report?


Yeah, the 'offices' table in the database doesn't track how recently an
office was created (it's available in the event history, but pulling it
from there would be more involved). Since this is a short-term situation
per office, I just updated the boilerplate text below the list.


DIS: Re: OFF: [proposal] It's about time

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 11:35, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> On 6/30/24 11:34, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>> I submit the following proposal:
>>
>> Title: Time for some clarifications
>>
>> Author: Janet
>>
>> Coauthors:
>>
>> Adoption index: 2.0
>>
>> {
>>
>> Amend Rule 1023 ("Agoran Time")  to read, in full:
>>
>> {
>>
>> The following terms are defined:
>>
>>  1. The phrase "in a timely fashion" means "within 7 days". This time
>> period is set when the requirement is created (i.e. X days before
>> the limit ends). A requirement to perform an action at an exact
>> instant (e.g. "when X, Y SHALL Z"), but not "in the same message",
>> is instead interpreted as a requirement to perform that action in a
>> timely fashion after that instant.
>>  2. The phrase "in an officially timely fashion" means "before the end
>> of the next Agoran week". This time period is set when the
>> requirement is created (i.e. between 7 and 14 days before the period
>> ends).
>>  3. Agoran epochs:
>>  1. Agoran days begin at midnight UTC.
>>  2. Agoran weeks begin at midnight UTC on Monday. Eastman weeks
>> begin at midnight UTC on the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of
>> each Gregorian month; the fifth one of the month (if any) lasts
>> till the end of the month.
>>  3. Agoran months begin at midnight UTC on the first day of each
>> Gregorian month.
>>  4. Agoran quarters begin when the Agoran months of January, April,
>> July, and October begin.
>>  5. Agoran years begin when the Agoran month of January begins.
>>  6. A pivot is either the instant at which Agora Nomic began (June
>> 30, 1993, 00:04:30 GMT +1200) or an instant at which at least
>> one person won the game. When used as a period of time, a
>> "Round" (historical syn: "game") is the period of time between a
>> pivot and the next pivot.
>> The "Agoran" qualifier is assumed unless a different definition is
>> indicated (e.g. Eastman weeks). These definitions do not apply to
>> relative durations (e.g. "within  days after ").
>>  4. Two points in time are within a month of each other if:
>>  1. they occur in the same Agoran month;
>>  2. they occur in two consecutive Agoran months, and the later of
>> the two occurs in an earlier day in the month than the earlier one;
>>  3. they occur in two consecutive Agoran months on the same day of
>> the month, and the later of the two occurs at the same or
>> earlier time of day.
>>  5. Any anniversary, monthly anniversary, or quarterly anniversary that
>> would otherwise occur on a day of the month that does not exist
>> (after considering any leap day) instead occurs on the following day.
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>> [Converge after the question for P9123, and renumber the sub-lists to
>> use letters. This is a "read in full" amendment because of the question
>> and because it would be a nightmare to try to specify the changes.]
>>
>> }
>
> *sigh*
>
> Dammit, Thunderbird.
>
> I withdraw the above-submitted proposal.
>
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Time for some clarifications
>
> Author: Janet
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index: 2.0
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 1023 ("Agoran Time")  to read, in full:
>
> {
>
> The following terms are defined:
>
>  1. The phrase "in a timely fashion" means "within 7 days". This time
> period is set when the requirement is created (i.e. X days before
> the limit ends). A requirement to perform an action at an exact
> instant (e.g. "when X, Y SHALL Z"), but not "in the same message",
> is instead interpreted as a requirement to perform that action in a
> timely fashion after that instant.
>  2. The phrase "in an officially timely fashion" means "before the end
> of the next Agoran week". This time period is set when the
> requirement is created (i.e. between 7 and 14 days before the period
> ends).
>  3. Agoran epochs:
>  a. Agoran days begin at midnight UTC.
>  b. Agoran weeks begin at midnight UTC on Monday. Eastman weeks
> begin at midnight UTC on the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of
> each Gregorian month; the fifth one of the month (if any) lasts
> till the end of the month.
>  c. Agoran months begin at midnight UTC on the first day of each
> Gregorian month.
>  d. Agoran quarters begin when the Agoran months of January, April,
> July, and October begin.
>  e. Agoran years begin when the Agoran month of January begins.
>  f. A pivot is either the instant at which Agora Nomic began (June
> 30, 1993, 00:04:30 GMT +1200) or an instant at which at least
> one person won the game. When used as a period of time, a
> "Round" (historical syn: "game") is the period of time between a
> pivot and the next pivot.
> The "Agoran" qualifier is assumed unless a different definition is
> in

DIS: Re: BUS: Verbal Cake

2024-06-30 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion

On 6/29/24 2:55 PM, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:

On 29/06/2024 14:15, Mischief via agora-business wrote:


I'll, with this, Magenta Ribbon score a,
Posting to my choice of public fora,
Born that day 'cause Nomic World's no more, huh?
Harken players current and of yore: A-
lexis, Michael, (but, as yet, no Laura),
To observe the relevant decora,
List the ways we simply must adore ya,
Offer praise from here to Bora Bora,
Kudos given without oxymora,
Like a sweater made of fine angora,
Nobler than the princes of Andorra,
As alluring as, to bees, some flora,
Or a swimming shark to eir remora,
And some hopes, as once did find Pandora:
May you dazzle like a bright aurora,
May proposals always reach their quora,
May the crystals fully cleanse your aura,
Gather, raise a glass and your fedora,
As we toast the birthday of Agora.



(If the above did not do so, I award myself a Magenta Ribbon)

Oh, this is amazing. Kudos to you. (Tempted to petition for a Bard award, 
would anyone else support were an intent to be made?)


And thank you for the reminder. I, too, award myself a Magenta Ribbon.


Thank you! I actually already earned the title under my prior nickname 
(Elysion). Perusing old Agoran Weekly Journals it looks like that happened 
back in 2001 (!), but it doesn't record what work(s) it was for.


I was, however, debating whether it was worth submitting it for an A.N.A.

--
Mischief
Hat: steampunk hat
Vitality: Unalive
Bang holdings: 0